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Old 09-17-2008, 09:33 PM
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I mean the Sarah Failing...

Cindy McCain wouldnt be pretty if she was able to alter the physical plane and become Cindy Brady ("The youngest one in curls")
i dont find Palin attractive either. Hmpf.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:33 PM
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When you have a prenup and multiple homes are owned in the names of your kids and corporations, etc it's not that simple.
why have those homes in the names of your children and corporations? Oh, I forgot...to cheat the system tax-wise, my bad.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:34 PM
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why have those homes in the names of your children and corporations? Oh, I forgot...to cheat the system tax-wise, my bad.
Exactly. And, mind you I do not fault him for it because I would do the same thing. The difference is I am not running for President on a holier than thou ticket.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:35 PM
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i dont find Palin attractive either. Hmpf.
on the eyes (Not my style) but I'm sure Bill Clinton would've liked her as his VP, if ya know what I mean
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on the eyes (Not my style) but I'm sure Bill Clinton would've liked her as his VP, if ya know what I mean
If she ate a few pies
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:41 PM
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Exactly. And, mind you I do not fault him for it because I would do the same thing. The difference is I am not running for President on a holier than thou ticket.
but his answer to question made him appear to be a deer on a quality control check of a vehicle's headlights. I like politicians who will QUICKLY answer a question without much thought and without a mouthful of BSing coming forth to AVOID the issue.

I agree with the holier than thou ticket (The TV commercials the Gas and Oil Party have been showing here in Bible Belt central are nauseating to say the least), makes me glad I removed my membership from that party years ago.
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but his answer to question made him appear to be a deer on a quality control check of a vehicle's headlights . . . .
He looked like an idiot.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:47 PM
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If she ate a few pies
Bill Clinton: "Mrs.Phalin...Come here (Thinking to himself "Ya sexy hunting honey")"

Sarah Phalin: "What Mr.President?"

Bill Clinton: "Isnt it time for your yearly mammogram? If so I can suggest a good mammographer for you...(Thinking to himself "Hillary won't put out since the cigar incident with Monica, and I am in need of some 'oralating' in the 'Oral office', Bill, your such a genius") and here he is...."

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It's laughable. Let's look at this then, shall we? Currently, social security alone is responsible for about half of our national budget.
Actually it's 21%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...federal_budget
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Cindy McCain? Pretty?

*crickets*
He means Palin.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:42 PM
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During the depression we had a surplus and went spent into deficit levels to get out of it.
False. This statement makes no sense.
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In addition, Obama is promising a "middle class tax cut", which is a joke because you cannot give a tax cut to one part of the population, while raising taxes on another without the group that is getting the cut paying for the increase by way of lower wages, foregone raises, cut benefits, etc.

http://www.census.gov/population/www.../age_2006.html
Get it through your head, that's exactly what Bush has been doing the last 8 years. He gave the rich a tax cut, why not the middle class??? Because he doesn't know the middle class and Obama does. He knows the back bone of America is the middle class. The USA was built on middle class/poor people from Europe. Did you watch Fahrenheit 9/11 in which he says to the rich:"Some call you the elite, I call you my base". There's the answer, that's why the rich get everything and the middle class gets nothing. That's why the country is in disarray right now.
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Old 09-18-2008, 06:06 AM
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Get it through your head, that's exactly what Bush has been doing the last 8 years. He gave the rich a tax cut, why not the middle class??? Because he doesn't know the middle class and Obama does. He knows the back bone of America is the middle class. The USA was built on middle class/poor people from Europe. Did you watch Fahrenheit 9/11 in which he says to the rich:"Some call you the elite, I call you my base". There's the answer, that's why the rich get everything and the middle class gets nothing. That's why the country is in disarray right now.
Not only that, but W essentially gave a phantom tax cut. While he most certainly cut everyones' taxes at the Federal level, he simultaneously cut funding for many state programs, which caused the states to raise the lost revenue via higher taxes. So, while the average person may have had a few hundred more dollars a year off of their Federal income tax, they likely had a similar amount added to their state taxes or will have it added in the future because the sate (and the Feds) borrowed the money to close the gap.

Moreover, Obama's plan will work because it has in the past and history demonstrates it can correct a huge Federal deficit like the deficit left by another 12 years of insane R rule. In 1993, the Federal deficit exceeded about $300 billion a year. Bill Clinton and Congress raised taxes and slashed spending. The effect was the deficits that had ballooned under Reagan and Bush 41 were tamed. Moreover, we had economic expansion, job creation, a stock boom, and a budget surplus of trillions of dollars when Clinton left office -- compare that to what we have now, which is insane debt, a crashing stock and housing market (due to non-existent regulation) , a ballooned national debt that W promised to pay off while in office with the rev. he expected to generate through the economic growth he promised to obtain through he tax cuts (which McSame was against) I get that the Clinton economy was not perfect due to the dot.com bust, but clearly it was much better than the crapola W has let fester. McSame wants to extend that plan though he may (a big if) control the spending slightly better, though his current platform suggests he will not no matter what he says.

In the end, I am for the fair tax because the numbers show the poor will pay no tax and everone else pulls their own weight via a tax on their spending. I would even be for a flat tax where no one making under $75,000 a year is taxed at all. But, that fantasy will never happen. So, in the real world, I am for the plan that has been demonstrated to work very well despite any abstract economic theories that obviously have not worked in their application over the last 30 or so years.
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False. This statement makes no sense.
Moreover, he thinks a budget surplus is a bad thing
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I did explain it, but you just didn't understand it. Go enroll at your local community college and take econ 101 and it will make sense.
Then please copy and paste your answer. You most certainly didn't and couldn't answer the question.

If you could also resist the social retardation and not answer like a child who needs a nap and fresh diaper, this would also be helpful. Let's keep the ego in check.
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