Interview 6/12/08: Hello St. Louis!

[studyinscarlet]

Originally Posted by Sorceress

I really think this is less about the fans and more about Stevie's rationalizing her stagnation and generally being out of touch with modern technology. (And apparently about making money).
My point is, I guess I don't really expect Stevie to do anything for me just because I call myself a fan. But I wish she'd do something more for herself, to be growing and learning and alive as an artist.

It is a bit sad to see Stevie stagnating. Especially since she's always expressed her love of what she does. How important it is to her. That's what makes this interview so puzzling. It's mostly a 180, except for the Klonopin bit.

It is a sort of 'laying it at the fans feet' argument. We don't want to listen to a different setlist, so that won't change. We have to pee sometimes when she's singing, so she won't do anything but the standards in concert. We'll steal her music, so what's the point of a new album?

It's quite disappointing. If the thrill is gone, we shouldn't take the blame for that.

[wheart]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Just exactly what I was thinking while listening to Emmylou's great brand new album.I think Stevie's 7 or so years at the very top somehow spoiled her beyond repair and in her mind if she can't have all the trappings of superstardom she had in the making of each new album then including airplay and sales then she just won't bother ..A line in one of Emmylou's new songs really struck me in regard to artistic integrity vs commercial success "no matter how bright I glittered baby I could never be gold"Well Emmylou still glitters brightly even if she was never"gold" Stevie in her time was Fort Knox ..but she doesn't seem to be glittering much now.

I think you nailed it! Between FM's mega stardom and her own solo success, Stevie just can't seem to settle for less. So she's chosen to settle for nothing and piss off many of her loyalists. Many artists these days are responding to the vastly different marketplace and are trying to come up with new ways to get their music out there. Stevie just doesn't seem to care anymore...

[Sorceress]

Originally Posted by studyinscarlet

It's quite disappointing. If the thrill is gone, we shouldn't take the blame for that.

Yes! That's what I was trying to say, but you said it way better!

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

I think Stevie meant going back to get the videos for CV and using the backdrop for her tour. I also think she counts "silver springs" on CV as one of the things she dug out of the vault.

The whole article made me sick..I sent an email to Liz.

I couldn't agree more Jimmy! It's not that I'm out for any sort of "Apology" from her, as I don't see that happening.. But does she "REMEMBER" that is was "US" hard-core fans- and I know that there are MANY more that just 1,000 of us, that got her to the point of where she is now????? Does she REALLY feel we are "ALL" somehow, ripping her off- after spending Lord knows HOW much money on seeing her perform at MULTIPLE shows, during just ONE of her tours, let alone, other monies we have spent on cd's, dvd's, Herbie's posters and calendars, t-shirts, tour books from every tour, etc..??? And other memorabilia as well?? It's as like she now feels, what little fans she mentioned are nothing but internet thieves, and I just don't get it??? I'll definitely write Liz a letter as well!

[Musicman408]

Who is this Liz lady?

I think it is somewhat degrading and selfish to say anything negative about her hardcore fans. If it weren't for us, where would she be today?

In addition, it isn't like Stevie's music is the only music that is being copied. It's the same with every other artist out there and you don't hear them saying "oh what's the point in recording when it's all going to get copied." The purpose of making music is to make music because you love doing it, and it is somewhat frustrating to think that a musician is not going to make music because "everyone will copy it". I mean, I would have died and gone to heaven if I had a for real, big time rock and roll band and would be eternally grateful and appreciative of my position in their minds, and would always write my music........ I don't know, maybe that's just a crazy primise.

[The Catdancer]

If it wasn't for us she'd still be cleaning houses and serving coffee. It's a slap in the face to me. I've been a fan for more than 30 years and now I'm considered a thief??? It doesn't make sense at all and if she really said that, it's pretty sad.
And yes Stevie, some of us have to go to the bathroom especially when you do covers no one is interested in. Give me a break.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

If it wasn't for us she'd still be cleaning houses and serving coffee. It's a slap in the face to me. I've been a fan for more than 30 years and now I'm considered a thief??? It doesn't make sense at all and if she really said that, it's pretty sad.
And yes Stevie, some of us have to go to the bathroom especially when you do covers no one is interested in. Give me a break.

Ok??? Exactly!! Couldn't have said it better.. I just don't understand at all..

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by Sorceress

Who cares if it sells 45 copies? .

Warner Brothers does. Very MUCH so.



And - - - You CAN'T market an album successfully these days without a large distributer. i.m.o. it's just simply not realistic.

Check out the end of Eric Clapton's recent autobiography.

He said that the record companies have decided that they're going to scale WAY back by 2010 - two short years from now. Less, in fact. The Internet is drastically changing things, as we all know. I think it's reasonable for Stevie to feel bothered by that after 35 years in the business - and it IS a business. And to feel a little flustered and confused about how to keep this going. And to feel angry about the reasons why.

Pssst Warner Brothers is going to drop her. It's obvious.

Read BETWEEN Stevie's lines...

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Warner Brothers does. Very MUCH so.



And - - - You CAN'T market an album successfully these days without a large distributer. i.m.o. it's just simply not realistic.

Check out the end of Eric Clapton's recent autobiography.

He said that the record companies have decided that they're going to scale WAY back by 2010 - two short years from now. Less, in fact. The Internet is drastically changing things, as we all know. I think it's reasonable for Stevie to feel bothered by that after 35 years in the business - and it IS a business. And to feel a little flustered and confused about how to keep this going. And to feel angry about the reasons why.

Pssst Warner Brothers is going to drop her. It's obvious.

Read BETWEEN Stevie's lines...

Ok.. in ALL honesty... do you ever see "STEVIE NICKS" only selling 45 copies of any newly released cd's that AREN'T a "Greatest Hits" package??? Even with Crystal Visions- which more or less was a "Greatest Hits" deal with a dvd thrown in, she sold a hell of a lot more than 45 copies... I know personally, that "if" Stevie came out with a newly released cd of "NEW" - (un-released demo's) and some of her other new songs, I'd be all over that like tomorrow's news.. and I'm sure I'm not the only one!

[David]

Beethoven, too, went into a lengthy dry period in about 1813, which lasted until the writing of Opuses 101 & 106, primarily, & brought about for a number of social, psychological, & physical causes.

Stevie, like Beethoven, may well come out of this -- her compositional "horse tropics" -- in a slowly gathering blaze of personal expression & extraordinary artistic accomplishment. We may yet see Stevie's "Diabelli" Variations or her Missa Solemnis in the twilight of her career & life. She may yet alter the face of an art form!

Go, Stevie!

[petep9000]

That's right David, maybe she'll have some of an artistic rebirth and decide to do something completely different, like a one-woman show. She'd be like Dietrich, Lena Horne, etc.
Can you imagine? Stevie the toast of NYC supper clubs or cabarets, at age 65?

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by petep9000

That's right David, maybe she'll have some of an artistic rebirth and decide to do something completely different, like a one-woman show. She'd be like Dietrich, Lena Horne, etc.
Can you imagine? Stevie the toast of NYC supper clubs or cabarets, at age 65?

I think she is already half way there as a cabaret act and posted as much on here after her show at the Chronicle Pavillion out here a year ago .I believe I compared it to a Judy Garland .Edith Piaf or Dietrich show..I had to enjoy it in that context because as a rock concert her shows don't really work for me at this point.

[Sorceress]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Warner Brothers does. Very MUCH so.



And - - - You CAN'T market an album successfully these days without a large distributer. i.m.o. it's just simply not realistic.

Check out the end of Eric Clapton's recent autobiography.

He said that the record companies have decided that they're going to scale WAY back by 2010 - two short years from now. Less, in fact. The Internet is drastically changing things, as we all know. I think it's reasonable for Stevie to feel bothered by that after 35 years in the business - and it IS a business. And to feel a little flustered and confused about how to keep this going. And to feel angry about the reasons why.

Pssst Warner Brothers is going to drop her. It's obvious.

Read BETWEEN Stevie's lines...

Of course WB cares. But does Stevie really need to? Not if what she is interested in is art for art's sake, which I think is much preferrable to art for the sake of fame, glory and money. Being dropped from a major label is not a bad thing, IMO. Stevie and I are clearly not on the same wavelength on this point. I get that. It just frustrates me that she hasn't been able to make that transition to accepting the marketplace and create in spite of that.

I keep saying the same things over and over. I'll go listen to Emmylou now.

[RoseGarden]

It's ashamed that this interview came out. With many other suddle words in the past , this just fuelled my inquiry of suspesicion. For many years, I have felt that Stevie isn't who I or We thought...................Still love her music and beautiful face . But if she can not realize without loyal fans to buy her music and go to her concert (nothing is inexpensive--gas, time off from work ect......) then why should fans "bother"?

STEVIE!!~ don't allow my favorite song to become your prophecy! Don't be so rich and ohhh so lonely! We're not gone yet----say something--acknowledge us...something!!!!!! Don't be the lonley rich one with pillars all around. Some people want to do your horticulture. Just show some appreciation.

[starshine]

Originally Posted by Sorceress

I really think this is less about the fans and more about Stevie's rationalizing her stagnation and generally being out of touch with modern technology. (And apparently about making money).
My point is, I guess I don't really expect Stevie to do anything for me just because I call myself a fan. But I wish she'd do something more for herself, to be growing and learning and alive as an artist.

I totally agree.....but she doesn't really want to do anything for herself unless I guess she's 'forced' by the so called record companies(or so it appears unless this Soundstage thing is or is it just fulling her contract??).....before she started her so called solo career she wanted to get as much out as possible.......I'd did a long list on 7 wonders....I guess I just didn't want to retype it all again....(pg 11 if anyone wants to read it).....Stevie needs to embrace the techno world....heck I'm sure her assistants have bought things for her online...so she could sell so much stuff to us as fans.....but she doesn't want to which is the bottom line. What good are all those outtakes (music and photos) etc why have them if they just 'sit' in some valuet and collect dust....what purpose do they serve? All the excess they(fmac/solo) she spent $$ on in times past. That would be nice to get them out to fans....I can keep going but I'll type this saying that was on a calender I have that have positive quotes on it...."The Man who does not work for the love of work but only for money is not likely to neither make money nor find much fun in life" Charles M. Schwab........I guess we've all heard of Charles Schwab.......don't get me wrong who doesn't want more $$ but not all of have tons of money.......Anyway, she needs to love the work.....etc other things will follow.....if not they maybe its time to spend time with her family and retire.......I'm still disappointed in what she said in that interview.....not right.