FM Family Tree - Page 9

fleetfootmike · #**121** 01-29-2003, 04:10 AM

I'll run the new Bob Weston stuff past his webmaster, who I happen to now know, and see if he can shed any more light or confirmation on it.

fleetfootmike · #**122** 01-29-2003, 04:13 AM

Looking at the tree I don't see the Levi Set Blues group, or whatever they were called, on it. Is that due to a total lack of data, or what?

iamstevienicks · #**123** 01-29-2003, 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by bjk3047
That would be my department Check the link I have in one of my previous posts in this thread.
There were a lot of loose ends at the time...and everything just grinded to a halt. You can imagine my surprise when I saw this up on the top again! I'll have to dig up all the work (I did save it, thank God lol). I think we can complete this tree as a part 1 of 2. For the sake of aesthetics and size of the tree itself, this tree can chart all of the involvements of FM personnel prior to their joining the band. Makes sense?
As I look at it now, all that's left is from Billy and Rick to Dave Mason and the Time crew. True enough, those guys were journeymen, but if we work the tree like that, there's light at the end of the tunnel.
-Brian

wow, its fantastic

Thanx for all your efforts, there is alot of people involved in the makeup of the mac, its astonishing

I assume from Fleetwood mac #12 your including what lineup consisted on tour and not on album, just because of the omission of Christine replaced by Steve Thomas (who I have never heard of)

Oooh, u know u could market this thing as one big massive poster and sell it, its something I would love to have dawbed over my wall

wetcamelfood · #**124** 01-29-2003, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fleetfootmike
Looking at the tree I don't see the Levi Set Blues group, or whatever they were called, on it. Is that due to a total lack of data, or what?

Yeah, this falls in to the "lack of data" category (as with other bands (such as Weston's "Giant Marrowfat" that I spoke of). We know they exist, but don't know either the names of the other people in the group and/or the instruments they played. As it is, we've just had to do a lot of guessing on the dates.

John

fleetfootmike · #**125** 01-29-2003, 07:04 AM

Just spoke to Bob W's webmaster - he's going to run the stuff past Bob and an ex-BCB drummer to see if it triggers any memories.

wetcamelfood · #**126** 01-29-2003, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjk3047
That would be my department Check the link I have in one of my previous posts in this thread.
There were a lot of loose ends at the time...and everything just grinded to a halt. As I look at it now, all that's left is from Billy and Rick to Dave Mason and the Time crew. True enough, those guys were journeymen, but if we work the tree like that, there's light at the end of the tunnel.
-Brian

As it is, we may grind to a halt again as I posted what I could on the Time guys (and gals) earlier but since there were many areas where I had run out of sources for further investigation on those questionable topics etc. I couldn't really add to them so unfortunately, I don't know if there is anything else I can really add to this now that I haven't already said earlier in this thread but hopefully if someone looks at what I (and others) came up with on those guys (and gals) earlier in this thread then (hopefully, again) they may know of a way to get this info we couldn't find that I/we may have overlooked. So if anyone has any further ideas about how to find this elusive data, NOW is the time to step forward!

John

fleetfootmike · #**127** 01-29-2003, 09:46 AM

From Steve Fairhead (Bob Weston's webmaster):

"Coincidentally, Bob just phoned, so I bounced your email off him.

"He basically said that whoever wrote the message knew more about it than he did, and that most of what he could recall was accurately reported. Line-up is correct; the QE2 song is correct (he'd totally forgotten about it, and he wrote it!); Lol Coxhill etc is correct. So: the facts are correct; dates etc he's less sure about, but he's pretty confident they're right. Certainly there was nothing in there that he disagreed with."

Doctor Brown · #**128** 01-29-2003, 11:11 AM

Wasn't the Levi Set Blues Band:
John and Ian Charles and Jeremy Spencer?

chiliD · #**129** 01-29-2003, 11:58 AM

Jeez, if you get into the "Time" lineup, you have to deal with Dave Mason's tree...which has a link (via bass player Gerald Johnson) to the Steve Miller Band, which has a direct link in the person of Boz Scaggs to Toto, and then you have to deal with Steve Lukather's & Jeff Porcaro's lineage to Steely Dan, which leads to the Doobie Bros, which leads to...{sigh}...I'm exhausted already.

wetcamelfood · #**130** 01-29-2003, 03:00 PM

Doctor Brown - Hey that's great info! Do you know what instruments John & Ian played (& which one played which) and the start and end dates?

ChiliD - Yeah, that would be cool but I'm guessing Brian is just gonna stick to the 16 FM members for now anyways. Maybe someday we'll go from the "tree" to the "forest"!

John

fleetfootmike · #**131** 01-29-2003, 03:31 PM

Giant Marrowfat (from the man himself, via Steve again):

Bob Weston: guitar
Lol Coxhill: sax
Steve York: bass
various drummers

He also says he did play with Graham Bond before Long John Baldry and "just after" (he thinks) Black Cat Bones: lineup had John Hiseman on drums and Dick Heckstall-Smith on sax.

He also says that he played with Alexis Korner after the Mac.

fleetfootmike · #**132** 01-29-2003, 03:55 PM

A little bit of web research threw up:

http://www.geocities.com/alexquo/ashmanreynolds.htm which lists the album credits as:

Madeline Bell - Vocals (Blue Mink)
Aliki Ashman - Vocals (Ginger Baker, Graham Bond)
Keith Boyce - Drums (Heavy Metal Kids, Savoy Brown)
Tony Clarke - Percussion
Rod Edwards - Guitar, Keyboards, Vocals (Piccadilly Line, Gordon Giltrap)
Mickey Keene - Guitar (Alex Harvey, Hair musical)
Ladbroke Horns
Harry Reynolds - Bass, Guitar, Vocals
Liza Strike - Vocals (backing vocals on everyone's records, from Leo Sayer and Carly Simon to Pink Floyd, Nazareth and Whitesnake)
Bob Weston - Guitar (Murray Head, Fleetwood Mac, Long John Baldry)

fleetfootmike · #**133** 01-29-2003, 04:05 PM

Getting the Bob Welch data sanity checked - anyone any specific gaps they want looking at?

wetcamelfood · #**134** 01-29-2003, 07:22 PM

Well, rather than rehash all of what we've already said on the previous 8 pages of this thread, you could just scroll back and see what we still need as I (and others) indicated things to the effect of "we know (such and such) played with (whomever) but don't know (when/who else was there/what they played) etc. lots of questions to be answered you'll find!

Thanks for the great help, I did make my best "educated guesses" on the "live" Ashman Reynolds lineup based on the album as you will see too but anything you (or anyone else) come up with on our "blank areas" is a step in the right direction.

John

bjk3047 · #**135** 01-30-2003, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
As it is, we may grind to a halt again as I posted what I could on the Time guys (and gals) earlier but since there were many areas where I had run out of sources for further investigation on those questionable topics etc. I couldn't really add to them so unfortunately, I don't know if there is anything else I can really add to this now that I haven't already said earlier in this thread but hopefully if someone looks at what I (and others) came up with on those guys (and gals) earlier in this thread then (hopefully, again) they may know of a way to get this info we couldn't find that I/we may have overlooked. So if anyone has any further ideas about how to find this elusive data, NOW is the time to step forward!

John

I do have to (and will quite shortly) get to work on those parts of the tree. I should get a good 5 or 6 entries done by mid-weekend, I'm just a little busy as of now. Just wanted to pipe up that work shall resume!
-Brian