Tiny Pictures Galore!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

I do know the truth on this one!!

Isn't it nice being on the inside??

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Isn't it nice being on the inside??

Absolutely sweetie! LOL

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

From my understanding, "all" or most of these pictures were just - recently "ripped off" of a very dear friend of mine's website, that they've had for years! They had to shut their site down due to this person stealing their stuff, and there was a huge thread on it, on 7. It's a really sad thing, that someone in this day and age, had to stoop that low, to do this to someone.. but I'm not going to go any further with this, as I certainly don't want any "wars" here - like there were over there.

Unless your friend owned the copywrite to those photos, how can anyone be accused of stealing them from her? Technically she's just as guilty as the person who copied them from her because somewhere, someplace she obviously had to copy them herself. The only person who can really complain is the photographer, or the copywrite holder.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by paleshadow

Unless your friend owned the copywrite to those photos, how can anyone be accused of stealing them from her? Technically she's just as guilty as the person who copied them from her because somewhere, someplace she obviously had to copy them herself. The only person who can really complain is the photographer, or the copywrite holder.

She did own all of the copyrights of all of those pictures! She and Herbie go back for years! Also, they've been selling on e-bay for many years and have also bought copyrights and pictures from other photographers! This "website" thing isn't something that is a "new" thing to them, as they've had it for ages! Many people here, on this site, as well as in the Stevie/FM community have known them for many, many years. And you can also trust me - when I tell you, firsthand, that someone can "DEFINITELY" be accused of stealing -when you see your own rare photos, that you've paid dearly for, on someone else's website! Again... I'm not going to comment on this any further, as I am not out to bring anything confrontational to this wonderful site! If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to PM me!

Hugs,

Arlene

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

She did own all of the copyrights of all of those pictures! She and Herbie go back for years! Also, they've been selling on e-bay for many years and have also bought copyrights and pictures from other photographers! This "website" thing isn't something that is a "new" thing to them, as they've had it for ages! Many people here, on this site, as well as in the Stevie/FM community have known them for many, many years. And you can also trust me - when I tell you, firsthand, that someone can "DEFINITELY" be accused of stealing -when you see your own rare photos, that you've paid dearly for, on someone else's website! Again... I'm not going to comment on this any further, as I am not out to bring anything confrontational to this wonderful site! If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to PM me!

Hugs,

Arlene

I'm confused. I looked at that site and I'd say about 97 per cent of those pictures I've seen before on many other sites, and the majority aren't even Herbert Worthington photos.

[Bella Figura]

it's really just the nature of the Internet, you post anything unique out here it's bound to be stolen, resold, stolen again, resold again...so it's not just the original owner with copyrights that being duped, it's also the new owner who thinks he/she now owns it since they also paid top dollar...which is very likely the case here...

a word to the wise...if you want something to stay in your possession do not post it on the Internet...

I have many a time right clicked a pic, photoshopped it, printed it on a great color copier, and tucked it away in my personal collection which is where it stays...but it's very easy for an unscrupulous someone to take the next step and offer it for resale as an original on ebay or somewhere else....

I'm sorry for your friend and I'm sorry for all artists be it singer, writer, photographer, computer programmers who try to maintain their copyrights but Internet is still wild so an artistic person must be aware that their work can easily be stolen out here and where it ends up may not necessarily be the guilty party...

a balance must be struck between getting your work noticed and understanding that that very work will probably be stolen...

I love to write poetry and have posted many poems online but I understand that they may be stolen and claimed as "anothers" but I've done this with eyes wide open. Those poems that are truly close to my heart will stay private and those already published well I've been paid at least once!!!

[steviefan59]

i totally agree with ur assessment of the situation Bella...anything that's on the net is subject to being ripped off...what most sellers do now is place a stamp (water mark) over the picture which really cut off some of these scammers...oops along comes photoshop and the water mark is gone...as fast as u can do something someone else ruins it...ebay has had this happen too and i feel bad for the owners...u said keep it off the net but how do u do business if u can't show what ur selling? there will always be people out there trying to make a living off of someone elses misfortune...its the nature of the beast...i appreciate the ppl that do give us permission to use their personal photos like Sanne and Alicia and esp Daryl who puts his own collection on photobucket up on each email so we can check it out...take care...pat

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by Bella Figura

it's really just the nature of the Internet, you post anything unique out here it's bound to be stolen, resold, stolen again, resold again...so it's not just the original owner with copyrights that being duped, it's also the new owner who thinks he/she now owns it since they also paid top dollar...which is very likely the case here...

a word to the wise...if you want something to stay in your possession do not post it on the Internet...

I have many a time right clicked a pic, photoshopped it, printed it on a great color copier, and tucked it away in my personal collection which is where it stays...but it's very easy for an unscrupulous someone to take the next step and offer it for resale as an original on ebay or somewhere else....

I'm sorry for your friend and I'm sorry for all artists be it singer, writer, photographer, computer programmers who try to maintain their copyrights but Internet is still wild so an artistic person must be aware that their work can easily be stolen out here and where it ends up may not necessarily be the guilty party...

a balance must be struck between getting your work noticed and understanding that that very work will probably be stolen...

I love to write poetry and have posted many poems online but I understand that they may be stolen and claimed as "anothers" but I've done this with eyes wide open. Those poems that are truly close to my heart will stay private and those already published well I've been paid at least once!!!

exactly~ i have some rare poloroids of stevie & won't share for this very reason~

[trackaghost]

Is this girl selling pictures from this site though? I don't see that at all.
All she's done is collect together pictures that have been posted on different sites around the internet, and they are absolutely tiny, you'd have difficulty printing them off or doing anything with them.
And before anyone says "but they're not your pictures" I actually spotted a few pictures that I took myself, not even ones I bought, but came from my own camera, on there. But you know, I posted them on the net. If I didn't want people to see them I wouldn't have uploaded them.

[starshine]

Originally Posted by GODDESS6

exactly~ i have some rare poloroids of stevie & won't share for this very reason~

I have to say your so very very lucky to have those....I do recall in the days of collecting Stevie/Fmac stuff before the Net....you'd get peoples lists.....I do recall Ann Morgan of 'Rumours' fanzine was selling her stuff off and she had poloroids for sale but the price was out of reach to me....how so lucky you must be......I myself used to buy from Sam Ketejian in CA (again before Ebay etc/the net) and he had those pool photos...which I'd gotten but later traded them....I didn't like them.....boring pics to me....and like someone previously said you can't really tell its Stevie......not that I'm doubting Sam he was a good seller of Stevie stuff....he'd been doing it a long time.....but I hated those after I'd gotten them......I do agree those pictures on that web site are hard to 'see'....I also wish they were broken down in catagories or yrs....it'd be easier to view them. Like '81 etc.....just some thoughts....IMO that is..........no offence anyone....

[bellagypsy79]

I believe these pictures were hers, and were bought off of ebay. Because alot of these look like ebay pics. That's my guess anyway.

[dnightshade]

You def. have to be careful what you post on the net. Nothing is sacred. I had a few pics of Stevie totally trashed and F-kd up from her RAL Tour. They were taken in her hotel suite at the Boston Four Seasons [don't even get me started on the state of the Suite by the time she left]. So NOT flattering pics. I didn't trust myself (or some of the ppl who wander in and out of my house) so I gave them to a friend in Hawaii who I do trust and thank God they haven't been spotted so far - nor do I expect they ever will be. Sometimes it's not just about losing revenue but about someone's reputation and image as well.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

From my understanding, "all" or most of these pictures were just - recently "ripped off" of a very dear friend of mine's website, that they've had for years! They had to shut their site down due to this person stealing their stuff, and there was a huge thread on it, on 7. It's a really sad thing, that someone in this day and age, had to stoop that low, to do this to someone.. but I'm not going to go any further with this, as I certainly don't want any "wars" here - like there were over there.

Arlene.. I've only had a quick look at a couple of galleries but a lot of the pictures I recognise form having seen on numerous websites. Are you sure this person claims to own the copyright to them all?

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Is this girl selling pictures from this site though? I don't see that at all.
All she's done is collect together pictures that have been posted on different sites around the internet, and they are absolutely tiny, you'd have difficulty printing them off or doing anything with them.
And before anyone says "but they're not your pictures" I actually spotted a few pictures that I took myself, not even ones I bought, but came from my own camera, on there. But you know, I posted them on the net. If I didn't want people to see them I wouldn't have uploaded them.

Are yours from the SYW tour? I wonder if any of mine are on there then...

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

Arlene.. I've only had a quick look at a couple of galleries but a lot of the pictures I recognise form having seen on numerous websites. Are you sure this person claims to own the copyright to them all?

If they did Pip, then somehow they've managed to get copyright to at least four of the photos I took and a couple that Cammie did too! Plus some of those pictures are obviously scans from magazines. And the girl who runs that site certainly isn't alone in doing that.

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

Are yours from the SYW tour? I wonder if any of mine are on there then...

There's some of mine and a couple I recognise that Cammie took in Gallery 9.