Stevie Nicks Says Issues With Lindsey Buckingham Threaten Her Involvement With FM

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by David

i do not understand why not.
er....why, not? Not why.

Derrrr.

to why or to why not, that is the question.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Actually, I believe the exact quote was La Nicks placed grains of corn of the keys and CM pecked away with her large beak

ouch.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

ouch.

jbrownsjr and I were getting too chummy there

Of course, CM laced the Nicks tambo with coke packets so every time she shook, coke flew everwhere - see the ending of the SOTM in the Mirage video for her trying to sniff it all at one time

[David]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think the addition of the extra five+ musicians and vocals watered the music down.

GEE YA THINK??

I missed the wilder and rawer edge that the Mirage and before eras represented.

NO! Oh say it ISN'T SO!!!!!



Le Strand, who be your favorite guest on the old McLaughlin Group?

[David]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Actually, I believe the exact quote was La Nicks placed grains of corn of the keys and CM pecked away with her large beak

i do not believe this.

picture christie pecker at the corn. it not stay still on hammond keys -- waterfall keys. they fall off.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by David

[SIZE="5"] . . . Le Strand, who be your favorite guest on the old McLaughlin Group?

Well, after the unfortunate restraining order I had to take out on Eleanor Clift, I am unsure it would happen. But, if it did, I would say Gorbachev and Garbo - at the same time.

[David]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

to why or to why not, that is the question.

why carrie not ask me to join other board?

[TrueFaith77]

Not be redundant, but I did a breakdown of the back-and-forth in the press b/w Sheryl Crow, Lindsey, and Stevie. Hope it's helpful (even though they're not the original sources. . .):

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=35733

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by David

why carrie not ask me to join other board?

whatchoo mean??

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Nobody agrees with me, but I believe LB and CM has a solid relationship until CM left the band. And I believe that his anger after she left was about him wanting her there, and money.

I don't think it was about money, but I do think he wanted her there. Stevie said something like, 'Lindsey decides whether or not he wants to be in the band and them the rest of them said yes or not. Christine said no.' I think that Lindsey did see it as a rejection of sorts and I think it bothered him, even though he said that he was the one who understood when she wanted to cut the Dance short. He said everyone else was a little put off, because he supported Chris in that. So, he should have been the first to understand when she didn't come back for SYW, but I think his feelings were hurt.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

You're kidding right? Besides it being pretty obvious around the GOS rollover clips... The guy just about admitted he needed the FM "vehicle" his word, to keep the accountants happy.

The only time I think Lindsey mentioned his accountants was when he talked about how hard it was to get funding for the OOTC tour. So, he paid for a lot of it himself and said his accountants wouldn't let him do that again. I don't think he needs the FM money at all to live, but I think he does use it to keep fueling his non-profitable solo work, which is why he could go on that extensive UTS tour, flying around on private jets. SYW gave him the ability to tour so long on UTS.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Do stop thinking about tomorrow, says Stevie Nicks, eager to dispel rumors Fleetwood Mac's reunion is permanent. Performing at the Presidential Gala "was a magical moment for all of us," says Nicks. "(But) I have no desire for any further active involvement," including the band's scheduled Super Bowl appearance. Would she reconsider? "If the president should call again."

I think as they approached the whole Clinton thing, she was hoping that it could work again, but then at the inauguration itself, she realized that it wouldn't-- at least not at that point, so that hope fled. She said,

After the inauguration, it didn't look good for the five of us getting back together. So, if Lindsey wasn't ever going to be in the band again, then why should I be in the band anymore? We went in together. He had already quit six years before, and I hung in there hoping everything might work out again. I quit touring, but it's not like I ever really left. I just didn't want to be a part of it if it didn't include all of us.


Michele

[strandinthewind]

^^^

I agree, I think she wanted the Clinton thing to ignite FM.

But my point was she still had to complete SA and then do the tour. So, any reunion could not have involved her coming into the project until about 1995, which was about two years later. LB shelved his solo record for The Dance. So, it is possible she could have sold SA to Warners and morphed it into a new FM record, but that would have cost Warners a pretty penny and a new record really is not the same thing as the rehash of The Dance. It could have worked though as OSOTM sold respectably and the notion of a FM back in presumably fit form would easily have covered the cost of SA and any lost tour rev. Remember, though she was waxed out on drugs and her star somewhat diminished in the world of grunge and boy bands, SA had not flopped yet and she sold the rest of her records in ostensibly the same or similar condition. But, I doubt she would have done that as it likely was too complicated and she never shelved or morphed a solo record in the past. Again, just speculating for the sake of discussion.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by michelej1

The only time I think Lindsey mentioned his accountants was when he talked about how hard it was to get funding for the OOTC tour. So, he paid for a lot of it himself and said his accountants wouldn't let him do that again. I don't think he needs the FM money at all to live, but I think he does use it to keep fueling his non-profitable solo work, which is why he could go on that extensive UTS tour, flying around on private jets. SYW gave him the ability to tour so long on UTS.

Michele

Thus, my point that he does go back to FM for the wave of fame, which includes money. This fuels his solo stuff. I am not saying this is the only reason he goes back, but it is one of them IMO - and IMO it is not a bad thing. As for TITN and leaving on the eve of the tour, I think he just got fed up with FM and IMO he realized he could no longer control the apparently sober La Nicks. I think their relationship was what drove him out and it had less to do with his relationship with the others. Just speculation though as I was not in the room

[David]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I think as they approached the whole Clinton thing, she was hoping that it could work again, but then at the inauguration itself, she realized that it wouldn't-- at least not at that point, so that hope fled. She said,

After the inauguration, it didn't look good for the five of us getting back together. So, if Lindsey wasn't ever going to be in the band again, then why should I be in the band anymore? We went in together. He had already quit six years before, and I hung in there hoping everything might work out again. I quit touring, but it's not like I ever really left. I just didn't want to be a part of it if it didn't include all of us.

Which of course was completely at variance from her attitude in 1987, 1988, 1989, &c., when she spoke of how nice it was to be in a band again where everybody was friendly & bandmates were real mates & had dinner at one another's homes & blah blah.