"We WILL be working together again" - Mick

[bucklind17]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Yes, it would get him attention and a few more thousand in sales, but the fact is the guy is not going to do a solo album. Kiss 2008 goodbye. Even if nothing happens with the Mac in 9 months, Lindsey will have spent all that time waiting to SEE that nothing will happen and . . .Cast away that dream of a solo album. Just be glad we're getting Live at Bass Hall.

Michele

I know this is Lindsey we're talking about, but I still don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibility that the album is being worked on as we speak. He hasn't be on the road for over a year now, if he's going to be involved in another FM project, that's not for another nine months, that would have given him almost two years to put something together. Again, reiterating I know this is Lindsey we're talking about. I just don't think news of an FM related project is enough to write off this album happening entirely. Especially if there isn't another FM album as part of the deal, meaning he'll actually get to keep the songs!

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bucklind17

I know this is Lindsey we're talking about, but I still don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibility that the album is being worked on as we speak. He hasn't be on the road for over a year now, if he's going to be involved in another FM project, that's not for another nine months, that would have given him almost two years to put something together. Again, reiterating I know this is Lindsey we're talking about. I just don't think news of an FM related project is enough to write off this album happening entirely. Especially if there isn't another FM album as part of the deal, meaning he'll actually get to keep the songs!

Well, I agree that the way Lindsey talked during the UTS tour, he was practically ready to release that solo album then and there. So, there's no question that he has the material. But he also has a paralyzing mental block. I can just hear the interviews in 2010, "Well I was all ready to release the solo album, but then Fleetwood Mac came knocking on my door. But when I opened the door there was no one there . . . "

That's my biggest fear: that he's going to use this FM talk as an excuse not to do a solo album and then things will break down with FM after many months and so we won't have an FM tour and won't have a solo album either for a couple of years. I don't prefer an FM tour with no material, still I'd take it, but ISA there won't be either.

Michele

[strandinthewind]

^^^

LB use FM as a vehicle to release solo material that he knows will not sell as well without FM - and then complain about it later

Stop it - I won't hear a word of that nonsense and please do not bring up TITN, The Dance, or SYW

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

LB use FM as a vehicle to release solo material that he knows will not sell as well without FM - and then complain about it later.

Well, I know what you mean about Tango, but Lindsey hasn't complained about his participation in The Dance or SYW at all. In fact, he said that his solo stuff belonged on SYW because it was full of Mick and John anyway, so he thinks that worked out for the best.

Of course, he did take a 10 year break from "using" FM, when they would have given anything to have him back. I guess Fleetwood Mac was singing that Bill Withers song: "And I wanna spread the news, that if it feels this good getting used, oh you just keep on using me until you use me up.
Until you use me up."

Michele

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Well, I know what you mean about Tango, but Lindsey hasn't complained about his participation in The Dance or SYW at all. In fact, he said that his solo stuff belonged on SYW because it was full of Mick and John anyway, so he thinks that worked out for the best.

Of course, he did take a 10 year break from "using" FM, when they would have given anything to have him back. I guess Fleetwood Mac was singing that Bill Withers song: "And I wanna spread the news, that if it feels this good getting used, oh you just keep on using me until you use me up.
Until you use me up."

Michele

After it was over, he flat out said The Dance was about the money gained then and he was using it as a springboard for his solo record, which eventually became a FM record after, according to him, Warner Bros. were less than excited about his solo record according to him because of a change in management. So, I think it is accurate to say The Dance and SYW were vehicles LB used FM in. He then later bitched about it. I am not saying he did not have fun during The Dance and SYW. I am just saying that he went to FM to get his stuff out when it appeared releasing it in a solo manner was not a viable alternative. Interestingly, he did that with UTS. But, arguably, the moderate success of SYW and the tour were a springboard for that and he learned his lesson regarding the timing of his solo release.

I also think he did not want to do Mirage, but saw it as free publicity if you will.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

After it was over, he flat out said The Dance was about the money gained then and he was using it as a springboard for his solo record, which eventually became a FM record after, according to him, Warner Bros. were less than excited about his solo record according to him because of a change in management. So, I think it is accurate to say The Dance and SYW were vehicles LB used FM in. He then later bitched about it.

I did not say that Lindsey did not think The Dance and SYW could help his efforts to get a solo album out. I said that he did not complain or, as you say, "bitch" about being involved in those projects.

They put SYW on hold in part, because he was waiting to see whether or not he would do a solo album and he was candid in explaining that he lost the record company's support he had counted on. Stevie even said that they were waiting on Lindsey. My point is that Lindsey never had any resentment about The Dance or SYW. He did not feel about them the way he did about Tango, where he felt the band was pulling him away from what he wanted and stifling his creativity.

While he said he alone understood Christine wanting to end The Dance, because he had similar feelings about wanting to return to his solo work, he never complained about The Dance, much less SYW. He never had the attitude of being a victim or being oppressed that he expressed during the eighties.

In fact, after SYW he would have done another FM album right away. He said that he would be content not to do a solo album again, if he could work within the FM framework.

Lindsey will tell you in a minute that FM made him use a guitar pick 50 years ago, but he hasn't complained or "bitched" about the current FM in about 11 years. He hasn't acted like being with them is a sacrifice to him and he has never said that he doesn't like making money with FM, so it's not as if he has the ulterior motive of using anybody. They all profit when he's there.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I also think he did not want to do Mirage, but saw it as free publicity if you will.

Free publicity for what?? His album was already out. He had nothing to publicize. You can't use the band as a "springboard" for anything when the board is a mile away from the water. Lindsey didn't have anything of his own to springboard into after Mirage. For that publicity logic to hold, Go Insane would have to have come out closer to Mirage.

I'm sure he didn't want to do Mirage, but that was probably because it was stressful to be in the band and he was being told that Mirage could not have experimental music. Plus, he felt hurt (and still does) that the band had turned against him after Tusk. It's not like he didn't want to do Mirage because he was plotting solo projects.

In exchange for a longer tour, FM probably would have let him sing Trouble twice during every set (in addition to his 16 minute NTF). If he wanted free publicity, it was there for the taking.

Instead, they wrapped up the Mirage tour very quickly and he went back home to continue tinkering in his studio, well outside of the limelight and didn't even tour for his album when it did come out. Back then, FM was hotter. Lindsey was younger and I think touring would have been a lot more marketable for Lindsey than it proved to be for OOTC. Yet he didn't tour.

Michele