Did Christine ever write about Stevie? - Page 2

louielouie2000 · #16 02-05-2008, 07:43 AM

Stevie's song "Touched By An Angel" is most certainly about Christine. Christine is the "someone standing at the side of the stage, not standing in the shadows I see her face. Glowing in the darkness in her in her own angel ways"

. That's really one of my very favorite Stevie songs... and one of the neatest songs that any of the band members have written about the band itself.

On the other hand, I just can't point to any one single song of Christine's and say it's about Fleetwood Mac or Stevie.

I've never heard of "Friend" being about Stevie. It's an intriguing thought... especially with all the moon, planets, and mysticism references. I guess I always figured that song was about a failed relationship.

Villavic · #17 02-05-2008, 08:40 AM

Stevie does like to write about her friends, loves, or experiences. Christine has written about Mick (Oh Daddy), John (Don't Stop), a lover (YMLF), Wilson (Hold me).. but it's not a rule, she is more like a storyteller, or so I read. Songbird is for anybody and nobody, and I guess most of her songs are.

I wish there would be a song about Stevie. It would be interesting to read what she wrote (depends on the year, of course, ha haaa)

Gailh · #18 02-05-2008, 10:19 AM

Only Over You was supposedly about Dennis Wilson and You Make Lovin Fun was about Curry Grant. Oh Daddy was supposedly about Mick but I can't see how and Don't Stop was for John.

Someone did say Friend was about Stevie but again I can't see how. I always thought it was about missing friends in L.A. after she moved to England

I don't think she's ever written a song about or for Stevie.

Gail

CADreaming · #19 02-05-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh

but I can't see how and Don't Stop was for John.

I read it was for John at their breakup, encouraging him to look forward to his future by saying "don't you look back" on the past...

Here's something I found:

"Don't Stop" reflects Christine's feelings after her separation from John McVie. "Don't Stop was just a feeling. It just seemed to be a pleasant revelation to have that 'yesterday's gone,'" Christine remembers in The Fleetwood Mac Story: Rumours and Lies, "It might have, I guess, been directed more toward John, but I'm just definitely not a pessimist."

louielouie2000 · #20 02-05-2008, 01:46 PM

Sans "Don't Stop," I tend to believe what Carole Ann Harris says in her book "Storms"... that all of Christine's songs from "Rumours" were about her lover at the time (and Fleetwood Mac lighting director) Curry Grant. I have never believed "Oh Daddy" was about Mick, and have never believed "Songbird" was for 'everyone.' Oh Daddy is clearly about a lover, and Songbird is obviously about one person in particular. Though I don't take every word Carol Ann says for gospel, I think she nailed it in regards to Christine's Rumours songs. Plus she should know... she was there. She knew the members of Fleetwood Mac personally for 8 years at the height of their fame.

AliceLover · #21 02-05-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh

Only Over You was supposedly about Dennis Wilson and You Make Lovin Fun was about Curry Grant. Oh Daddy was supposedly about Mick but I can't see how and Don't Stop was for John.

Someone did say Friend was about Stevie but again I can't see how. I always thought it was about missing friends in L.A. after she moved to England

I don't think she's ever written a song about or for Stevie.

Gail

Was Curry Grant the lighting director for their live set? I always thought You Make Loving Fun was about John Courage.

Gailh · #22 02-05-2008, 02:43 PM

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Was Curry Grant the lighting director for their live set? I always thought You Make Loving Fun was about John Courage.

Christine has said herself that YMLF was about Curry

Gail

AliceLover · #23 02-05-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh

Christine has said herself that YMLF was about Curry

Gail

Ahh ok, good to know that now. I remember reading an article about the Rumours recording process. It was like a 6 page thing on Stevie-Nicks.info and they went through each song.

macfan 57 · #24 02-05-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh

Only Over You was supposedly about Dennis Wilson and You Make Lovin Fun was about Curry Grant. Oh Daddy was supposedly about Mick but I can't see how and Don't Stop was for John.

Someone did say Friend was about Stevie but again I can't see how. I always thought it was about missing friends in L.A. after she moved to England

I don't think she's ever written a song about or for Stevie.

Gail

Chris has said that "Oh Daddy" was loosely based on Mick & his wife, Jenny. She did say at that 1993 Clinton inauguration press conference that she wrote "Don't Stop" for John.

I think the only people who have said that "Friend" was about Stevie are those Stevie fans on internet message boards. Chris said that most of her ITM songs were about her failed relationship with an unknown lover in England. I have a feeling you're right about it being about friends back in L.A. after she moved back home.

By the way, "Ask Anybody" was about Dennis Wilson.

CADreaming · #25 02-05-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57

I think the only people who have said that "Friend" was about Stevie are those Stevie fans on internet message boards. Chris said that most of her ITM songs were about her failed relationship with an unknown lover in England. I have a feeling you're right about it being about friends back in L.A. after she moved back home.

When I went to her site to play a clip and it opened in WMP, a cover for a Greatest Hits with a release date of 1997 popped up - is "Friend" that old?

michelej1 · #26 02-05-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Sans "Don't Stop," I tend to believe what Carole Ann Harris says in her book "Storms"... that all of Christine's songs from "Rumours" were about her lover at the time (and Fleetwood Mac lighting director) Curry Grant.

As CAH lived with Lindsey and talked to him every day, I can see how she is qualified to say who his songs are about, but I don't think she has any idea who Chris' songs are about. I don't think Chris spent a lot of time confiding in her and Storms doesn't indicate that she did.

I think Curry was fun for Christine. And by that I mean light fun, a distraction, a diversion from deeper love relationships that were painful. I may be placing my opinion too much on the Tusk video footage where she kind of mused to herself about whether or not she was in love, but I just don't get the feeling that she was invested enough in Curry to write things about not being able to walk away from him even if she tried. He gave her respite from heartbreak. I think her feelings for him were much more casual than that and that it was relatively easy for her to walk away from him. So, I never thought Songbird or Oh Daddy were about him and I accept that Don't Stop is about John. He talks about it being about him and I don't think Chris was just humoring him there.

Michele

Villavic · #27 02-05-2008, 05:37 PM

Christine confirmed at the "Making the Rumours album" video in 1997, that Oh Daddy was about Mick, Don't Stop about John and her divorce, ang Songbird for "nobody and anybody.." or so I recall

I remember Mick said in his book that Hold me was about Dennis Wilson, he didn't mention Only over you

Chrislit18 · #28 02-05-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic

Christine confirmed at the "Making the Rumours album" video in 1997, that Oh Daddy was about Mick, Don't Stop about John and her divorce, ang Songbird for "nobody and anybody.." or so I recall

I remember Mick said in his book that Hold me was about Dennis Wilson, he didn't mention Only over you

I know in the mirage album sleeve/cd pamphlet thing it says something about Dennis Wilson in the credits of Only Over You.

Gailh · #29 02-06-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57

Chris has said that "Oh Daddy" was loosely based on Mick & his wife, Jenny. She did say at that 1993 Clinton inauguration press conference that she wrote "Don't Stop" for John.

I think the only people who have said that "Friend" was about Stevie are those Stevie fans on internet message boards. Chris said that most of her ITM songs were about her failed relationship with an unknown lover in England. I have a feeling you're right about it being about friends back in L.A. after she moved back home.

By the way, "Ask Anybody" was about Dennis Wilson.

In terms of Oh Daddy I just don't think that the words sounds like they're about Mick & Jenny but if the Tea Lady says so then who am I to argue?

I can see how Ask anybody would be about Dennis Wilson. "Somehow, someday he'll change and we'll try it all over again" - have I got the right song?

Gail

michelej1 · #30 02-06-2008, 01:20 PM

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In terms of Oh Daddy I just don't think that the words sounds like they're about Mick & Jenny but if the Tea Lady says so then who am I to argue?

Well, maybe just different parts of it are about him, like the word "Daddy" and well . . . that's it. I don't think the why are you so right and I'm so wrong sounds like Mick, but he probably thinks it does

. Guess he thinks that fits him to a tee.

Michele