Tori Amos swears at 2 audience members - Page 3

strandinthewind · #31 12-15-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah

It still doesn't look like an apology

I do not think it is an apology. I think it is damage control though. I base that on the fact that someone felt the need to comment at all.

SweetGirl24 · #32 12-15-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I do not think it is an apology. I think it is damage control though. I base that on the fact that someone felt the need to comment at all.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

BombaySapphire3 · #33 12-16-2007, 02:48 AM

at the one Tori show I ever attended on her Dew Drop Inn tour in the 1990s at Memorial Hall in Kansas City a young male in the audience was arguing with his girlfriend and as he stormed toward the exit he yelled out ..Tori you suck!" Tori calmly quipped "what would we do without our assholes " and went on with the song...wonderful response I thought..as for this new incident talking on the cell phones clinched it for me ..i'm glad she gave the tacky bitches the boot.

GarboSpeaks! · #34 12-16-2007, 04:30 AM

I was gonna start a thread last week, cause I had seen Tori for the first time last Saturday. I was pretty impressed. I was more impressed w/ how she interacts w/ her audience vs. the music she choose to perform. Not that that wasn't fabulous. There is just a whole vibe going on @ a Tori show, and its intriguing.
Moreover...besides hearing that she gives fans front or 2nd row tix ( I don't know that) what I do know is that prior to any show, there are fan club pre-sales (a free fan club) and you can purchase tix for $125 that get you a good bag full of tour merch., meet & greet, attendance to her sound check, and either 1st or 2nd row tix. OMFG...I mean SN would NEVER consider such generosity for $125. Makes me sick what I spend on Stevie & the Mac..and for what. Not complaining, I continue to do it... just really, when I see what other artists do for their fans.
As for this incident..."f" yea for her! Whether her choice of words were eloquent or the exact point, she wasn't going to let blabber mouth rightous people who were there to be there front row vs. reveling the moment, spoil it for the rest of us!

Sarah · #35 12-16-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I do not think it is an apology. I think it is damage control though. I base that on the fact that someone felt the need to comment at all.

I don't think so, considering that it's from TMZ. I highly doubt that her management was just like, "oh hay, before anybody says anything bad about Toriiii.." TMZ is total slag - tabloid trash style. I'd be willing to bet that they were all over her management looking for a comment. It still seems like clarification to me.. not damage control. People aren't going to stop going to Tori shows, and they know it. She isn't sorry or worried about it, and I doubt her management team is, either. Another artist.. maybe. Tori.. no.

**jbrownsjr** · #36 12-16-2007, 05:53 PM

I am constantly ashamed of the way people behave at concerts, recitals, etc...

Here are my guidelines of etiquette when going to a show..

1. Don't talk during the show. You are in the audience... not on stage.
2. Don't get up during the show, if you absolutely must get up during a show, do so after a song, or even better a set....
3. Don't do anything to distract the artist... photos, cell phones, pagers...
4. Cheer as loud as you want after songs... for rock concerts obviously this can be during a song as well... but common sense dictates if this is appropriate.

Having said this... I gotta say Tori probably got really distracted and it pissed her off.. It's not a social event... it's a time to listen and connect with Tori...

GarboSpeaks! · #37 12-16-2007, 06:06 PM

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3. Don't do anything to distract the artist... photos, cell phones, pagers...

I am TOTALLY guilty of takin gpics @ concerts, but not to a fault where it's like EVERYTIME they look over, I am popin' off a flash in their face. In fact more over than not, I don't even use my flash. This gets me next to no pics as a result, but I'd rahter enjoy the show and have pics as an after thought than gads of pics, but forgot what songs they sang or risk pissing off the artist.
@ a SN or Mac show, I was even MORE guilty of taking gads of pics, but that's cause it was my 1st time being so close. I try and mellow it out now, but being my fav artists, I have to say I can't stop all together =0( I feel that if I am atleast showing some respect by not causing a strobe light effect w/ the amount of pics taken that it's ok. I suppose really it's not. At all.

SweetGirl24 · #38 12-17-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GarboSpeaks!

I was gonna start a thread last week, cause I had seen Tori for the first time last Saturday. I was pretty impressed. I was more impressed w/ how she interacts w/ her audience vs. the music she choose to perform. Not that that wasn't fabulous. There is just a whole vibe going on @ a Tori show, and its intriguing.
Moreover...besides hearing that she gives fans front or 2nd row tix ( I don't know that) what I do know is that prior to any show, there are fan club pre-sales (a free fan club) and you can purchase tix for $125 that get you a good bag full of tour merch., meet & greet, attendance to her sound check, and either 1st or 2nd row tix. OMFG...I mean SN would NEVER consider such generosity for $125. Makes me sick what I spend on Stevie & the Mac..and for what. Not complaining, I continue to do it... just really, when I see what other artists do for their fans.
As for this incident..."f" yea for her! Whether her choice of words were eloquent or the exact point, she wasn't going to let blabber mouth rightous people who were there to be there front row vs. reveling the moment, spoil it for the rest of us!

It was an awesome show wasn't it?! I just saw her in Phoenix and got a Gold VIP. That's the one that is $125....and you get all the stuff except for the M&G. The Soundcheck was so cool to see....she talked to us about the sound set up and what she hears etc. The Platinum VIP is the one where you get a M&G, and it's only like $20 more...totally worth it.
I almost paid just as much just to see the Mac! Oh the things we do....

**jbrownsjr** · #39 12-17-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetGirl24

It was an awesome show wasn't it?! I just saw her in Phoenix and got a Gold VIP. That's the one that is $125....and you get all the stuff except for the M&G. The Soundcheck was so cool to see....she talked to us about the sound set up and what she hears etc. The Platinum VIP is the one where you get a M&G, and it's only like $20 more...totally worth it.
I almost paid just as much just to see the Mac! Oh the things we do....

i'm jealous!!

Nixxxed · #40 12-17-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetGirl24

It was an awesome show wasn't it?! I just saw her in Phoenix and got a Gold VIP. That's the one that is $125....and you get all the stuff except for the M&G. The Soundcheck was so cool to see....she talked to us about the sound set up and what she hears etc. The Platinum VIP is the one where you get a M&G, and it's only like $20 more...totally worth it.
I almost paid just as much just to see the Mac! Oh the things we do....

That's awesome. I'm jealous too. Did you get a pic with her?

SweetGirl24 · #41 12-17-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed

That's awesome. I'm jealous too. Did you get a pic with her?

No I didn't

She usually will sign and take pics before her shows. I waited for 3 hours with about 15 other people in the rain....but she was working on things for an upcoming live DVD and was running late to the venue. Plus, the rain

(her big ass bodyguard came out and informed us though, which I thought was nice of him). We stayed and watched her come in. She smiled and blew us kisses from under her umbrella and said "go get warm and dry and I will see you later". Aka...."I'm not coming out in this ****!" But it's cool.

I actually just got into her big with this album...because of a FM fan of mine actually. She met her in Milwaukee and I thought that was the coolest thing.

strandinthewind · #42 12-23-2007, 09:40 AM

Here is one of their stories:

Ex-fan Monique posted a blog on her MySpace page addressing the confrontation, saying, "All I was doing was telling my friend who went to the restroom that I couldn't believe she missed her favorite song by Tori ... and Tori had the f**king DIVA audacity to stop her song and tell me to leave just because I was talking about how amazing her live rendition was." Flattery will get you nowhere -- except thrown out!

Monique went on to write, "Guess my First Amendment rights were taken away at the door." Clearly at a Tori Amos concert -- you better sit straight ... and silent!

www.tmz.com

Also -Tori Amos has nothing to do with the First Amendment.

Nixxxed · #43 12-23-2007, 02:16 PM

"December 13th 2007

Next up was Code Red. Now, there were two girls who were front row center. They'd been getting up to get drinks every few songs, texting people, putting their cameras on the stage and taking pictures of Tori, as well as snapping pics of each other and just generally talking really loudly. I spoke to one of them during the Professional Widow interlude, and she mentioned her friend was a fan and she was along for the ride. The girls seemed nice but also probably should not have been front row center if they were going to eff off like that. I was worried something bad was going to happen after one of them tried to yell over to me during Virginia. Maybe she was trying to ask what song it was or something, I'm not sure. Tori noticed this girl was being loud and she looked like she was about to say something, but bit her tongue. The girls kept talking, and one went up to get a drink. Then she came back before the start of Code Red, and I could tell Tori was distracted and pissed. They kept on snapping pictures of each other and yapping loudly, so finally Tori stopped Code Red and told one of the girls to get the **** out of her show. Then she got up and basically charged the front row and pointed to her. It was surreal and frightening. Then she went back to the mic and said something along the lines of, "Sitting in the front row is a privilege. Those are my seats and I give them to people who like music." Smitty ran down and lead one of the girls out. Then Tori looked at the other girl and said (not into the mic but just right to her face): Are you with her? You can get the **** out,too." It was definitely the angriest I have ever seen her at a show. Ever. She started Code Red over again and snarled her way through it. Then she came back and growled through Precious Things, Space Dog, and Bliss. As my Nana would say, she was madder than a wet hen!"

http://www.mollyknight.com/

strandinthewind · #44 12-23-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed

. . . They'd been getting up to get drinks every few songs . . . .

Last I checked, that is not illegal and the venue readily sells all kinds of stuff -- maybe Tori will now demand that no one leave the hall why she is playing -- we'll see who books her then

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed

. . . texting people, putting their cameras on the stage and taking pictures of Tori, as well as snapping pics of each other . . .

Well, that could be any Ledgie at any concert. I mean look at all the great concert photos we get - usually (and thankfuly) from Patti - who usually is on the front row

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed

. . . and just generally talking really loudly . . . .

That is bad. But, I still maintain Tori handled it in a non-professional manner, esp. if, as this blog suggests, she let it effect her performance.

So, I still maintain, road strain caused that conduct, which is not to say the girls did not deserve to be dealt with by security for talking loudly.

Also - thanks for posting that - I am just commenting on it, not responding to you, etc.

skcin · #45 12-26-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I do not think it is an apology. I think it is damage control though. I base that on the fact that someone felt the need to comment at all.

I took it as people misunderstood what Tori was implying (that it's a privelege to be in her presence, rather than the fact that a diehard fan would kill for those seats & these 2 didn't deserve them) so her management decided to set the record straight. I don't consider clarifying damage control.

I've taken pics at shows with no flash. I've danced & sang at shows. I've gotten up to pee or get a drink. But this sounds as if it were excessive (other audience members saying they "kept getting up" implies that it was more than once or twice.) And yakking on cell phones during a concert? Taking multiple pics of yourself while the performer is playing? Talking loudly? WHY would you do that? This woman is an amazing artist, pay attention & enjoy the experience!

How many times have you seen someone saunter in late to a Mac or Stevie show, then sit there in the front row looking bored or talking to their friends, or leaving for a few minutes every 2 or 3 songs, while you sit there way up in the stands fuming because if YOU were in the front row, you would truly appreciate it by giving them your undivded attention & enjoying the experience fully. I think it's great that Tori stood up for her TRUE diehard fans. Was she rude? Sure, after those "fans" were rude to her and the other fans. Karma's a bitch - maybe they should have given some respect to people who truly wanted to be there by shutting the f*ck up and not distracting from the performance.