Led Zeppelin - tonight's setlist (SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY)

[Livia]

Thinking About Zep
Tuesday, Dec 11, 2007 2:04PM

Speculation about a Led Zeppelin tour went into the stratosphere within moments of the band playing its first full concert in three decades at the O2 Arena in London December 10.
Robert Plant told the crowd it's been a long time since he's rock 'n' rolled - but will it be the last? By all reports - and by the snippets that have been put online - Plant, Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones and Jason Bonham were rehearsed, ballsy and spectacular.
It might be the last time anyone will ever see them onstage – Plant has said he’s not feeling a tour, although Page and Jones were amenable (or has Plant hinted at a tour? Media reports vary and, basically, it's one big kerfuffle). Ultimately, there could be factors that will motivate them and it sure ain’t money – they’ve seen plenty of that and would certainly see more. It could come down to the following:
"With a synergy like this going on, it would be an act of cosmic perversity to stop now," said Pete Paphides of The Times of London.
"They sound awesomely tight," Alexis Petridis wrote in the Guardian. David Cheal of the Daily Telegraph said the band's "familiar old sinew and swagger were still there."
So, for grins and giggles, let's speculate:
There are two promotion companies that easily would have the ability to launch Zep again - Live Nation and AEG. Of those, AEG was clearly present at the show, with AEG Live President Randy Phillips and, according to sources, AEG President Tim Leiweke on hand. Those aren't the kind of folks who fly from Los Angeles to London to just do some headbanging.
In fact, Phillips was said to have made an offer as soon as the show closed. Meanwhile, Gary Arnold of Best Buy - which sponsors the Police tour - was on hand.
Of course, the Zeppelin camp has said touring is just wild speculation - which is many times code for "we're touring but wait for the official press conference." And there are plenty of ways to tour other than traditionally. It's always possible to take up residencies in major cities and let the audiences come to them.
If there is a tour, it won't likely be next spring or summer. Sources say Plant is committed to tour with Alison Krauss, promoting their collaborative Raising Sand, between June and August. There's always an earlier time frame - but, unless the tour has been in the works for months, large arenas are already committed to sporting events or concerts.
Which leaves the fall. Or nothing at all.

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[David]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I was thinking about her too.

How is the dear? Has anyone heard from her?

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I hate to admit it, but this sounds like ****! I know that Jimmy Page hasn't played a full show in a very long time, and I realize that Plant lost much of his range... But it was sloppy and way out of tune. I do respect the fact that it's just the four of them doing this without a lot of help (well, not including the echo/delay effect on the vocal mic), but it sometimes verges on a bad cover band.

Oh, the Zeppelanity!

Other than the comment about Plant losing his range, your comment pretty much describes a Zeppelin concert in their prime, as well. Zeppelin has never been all that great in concert even when they were still in their 20's. Page is one of the sloppiest live guitarists I've ever heard (he's a monster in the studio, but he just sucks live). The only time I've heard Page sound good live was when he did that tour with The Black Crowes. And, mainly because he had two guitarists backing him up. When he stands alone in what is virtually a power trio, he's crap.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by David

How is the dear? Has anyone heard from her?

I have not. I hope she is well. I know we fought some, but i really like her and enjoyed her well though postings and slightly snobby if not naughty wit.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by Livia

one of them admitting he wants to return to the States to play three shows at New York’s Madison Square Garden."

Rolling Stone on the Led Zeppelin rumours...

Hell to the Y-E-S!

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Hell to the Y-E-S!

You'll cross 30th St. for THAT - won't you

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by David

How is the dear? Has anyone heard from her?

I have not. I hope she's okay.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Livia

Which leaves the fall. Or nothing at all.

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I've waited for 30 years. I can wait another eight or nine months.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Other than the comment about Plant losing his range, your comment pretty much describes a Zeppelin concert in their prime, as well. Zeppelin has never been all that great in concert even when they were still in their 20's. Page is one of the sloppiest live guitarists I've ever heard (he's a monster in the studio, but he just sucks live). The only time I've heard Page sound good live was when he did that tour with The Black Crowes. And, mainly because he had two guitarists backing him up. When he stands alone in what is virtually a power trio, he's crap.

To be fair, his finger is still broken.
What do you attribute Page's sloppiness to?

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

What do you attribute Page's sloppiness to?

His innate "Page-ness" is where I always thought he got it from. I agree with Chili that he's much better in the studio than live. He does have a reputation for being pretty much the sloppiest of the "greats" from his generation. Having said that I though that the O2 Arena show wasn't too bad for him, especially considering his finger. I've heard plenty of boots from the 70s where he plays much worse than he did last week. All in all I thought it was pretty good but nothing mindblowing. I'm not a massive Zep fan but I'll probably pick up a copy of this show if it makes it out to DVD.

[David]

Originally Posted by Peestie

All in all I thought it was pretty good but nothing mindblowing. I'm not a massive Zep fan but I'll probably pick up a copy of this show if it makes it out to DVD.

I truly can't stand the direction live rock music has taken over the past decade or so. I'm not a Zep fan, but I saw a bit of the videos from O2 & enjoyed it more than any Fleetwood Mac show since 1982. Zep's achievement here was to buck the entire boring system. Instead of moving in the direction of Celine Dion, they went back to 1970s style by not hauling up the pallets of digital hardware & software. If I ever see another blandly smiling backup musician on somebody's stage, I'm likely to do murder. And if I see any networking cable, I'll yank it out.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by Peestie

His innate "Page-ness" is where I always thought he got it from. I agree with Chili that he's much better in the studio than live. He does have a reputation for being pretty much the sloppiest of the "greats" from his generation. Having said that I though that the O2 Arena show wasn't too bad for him, especially considering his finger. I've heard plenty of boots from the 70s where he plays much worse than he did last week. All in all I thought it was pretty good but nothing mindblowing. I'm not a massive Zep fan but I'll probably pick up a copy of this show if it makes it out to DVD.

Page's live-sloppyness is the bomb. I agree with David. Liveplaying is NOT about reconstruction of the studiowork. Live I want it raw hard and sloppy. It's about energy and not about how it must sound on a stereo or dvd-player.
So Page is a hero. Especially live. Period.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Page's live-sloppyness is the bomb. I agree with David. Liveplaying is NOT about reconstruction of the studiowork. Live I want it raw hard and sloppy. It's about energy and not about how it must sound on a stereo or dvd-player.
So Page is a hero. Especially live. Period.

Amen brother Gerald. If the Madison Square Garden shows are the only US shows then I am there to see sloppy Jimmy Page and crewe.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Amen brother Gerald. If the Madison Square Garden shows are the only US shows then I am there to see sloppy Jimmy Page and crewe.

Amen back Sister, for that same reason why I love Page's Sloppyness, I'm still regretting the fact that I didn't see Lindsey's solotour. Directness and honesty. Crappy sloppy or out of tune, I don't f*cking care.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

If I remember correctly, he did some solo stuff and yes, he has that same boom sound as his father.

He certainly has, although he made a little more slick hardrock. And I always had the impression his dad did more intuitive things. And was more experimental in the sounds of his drumwork. But a big hardhitter it is. And like hÃ*s dad he can be an elephant in a pocelainstore without breaking anything.