Stevies apparent weight problem in early 90's

[danax6]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I don't particularly like Two Kinds of Love, but I don't hate it either.

I would say that for "the way you walk" line, I don't interpret it as "walk," step or stride. I read it more as "walk away". I think that goes along with the other lyrics about someone being on the run, on an endless search for love. So, for me it's like, "I love you for 2 reasons: one for the way you leave and one for the way you stay." I love you for the way you go and the way you stay and love me. Which also reminds me of the seemingly contradictory words in a later song (Love is knowing you won't let go, love is watching you go).

How can you love someone for leaving? I think I get what you mean, but your wording is a little strange. The way I see it, in both songs, she's saying that it takes love to leave someone in order to let that particular person grow/become a better person/find themselves. Take your pick.

I think the songs are unrelated though. They might deal with the same subject matter, but they pertain to two different events. And Love Is far outshines Two Kinds of Crap.

And, of course, I like the rise of emotion for the "outraged with each other, engaged to each other" part.

The only redeeming part.

I never disliked Street Angel as much as Stevie did. It might be my least favorite of hers generally, but sometimes I like it more than I do Rock a Little.

Had you said Other Side of the Mirror, we would be in agreement, but leave Rock A Little alone. I lurves it.

[SortaSavageLike]

Originally Posted by danax6

Had you said Other Side of the Mirror, we would be in agreement, but leave Rock A Little alone. I lurves it.

We wouldn't anyone shattering your illusion of lurve, now, would we?

[David]

Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

I'm gonna say late Tango tour for that picture.

Here's late Tango in Los Angeles -- click the thumbnails:



What do you guys think?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

i get why, liam, you think it's kinda corny that she uses "blue denim" and you can't get beyond it. But really, if you think about almost all of her songs, they can be corny if taken literally

I guess the difference is most of the lyrics could be corny in a fairy sort of way, while Blue Denim is corny in a truck driver sort of way.

But actually I think it's a nice way to describe someone's eyes. Kind of elevates jeans into something beautiful and romantic.

Originally Posted by michelle2677

she can get away with that crap like no one else, because girlfriend owns it. ya know? she makes you believe that it's not cheesy. and that's why I love her.

Yes and her voice can take it to another level, so that the words mean more than their Webster's Dictionary definition. I know someone said they hated Gate and Garden and I couldn't understand why and then she wrote out the lyrics and I was like, "Oh, I see. Well, when you put it that way." I mean, the lyrics on paper are kind of stupid. But when Stevie is screaming them with that wild heart voice she had at the time . . . the words are quite secondary.

Well, that used to be true for me anyway. More recently, even when there's passion in the vocal, the song can leave me cold. I'm thinking Silver Girl, Sweet Girl and RTTG. I will say that, for the latter, I don't blame Stevie completely. I think that garden could have used some pruning by the producer.

Michele

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by Janis_no1

lol.

Just to clarify though for other ledgies, i am not having a dig at her, nor being nasty whatsoever, im just curious. Are there any big stevie photos?

none.

oh wait ...

[danax6]

Originally Posted by carrie721

none.

oh wait ...

I lurves u 2.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by danax6

I lurves u 2.

hehehe

i love that somebody cropped the top of her head out of the frame ... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

[danax6]

Originally Posted by carrie721

hehehe

i love that somebody cropped the top of her head out of the frame ... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

dude. post the other one.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by danax6

dude. post the other one.

i would if i had it!

[danax6]

Originally Posted by carrie721

i would if i had it!

sucker.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by danax6

sucker.

ty bb.

i wish stevie had better taste in "real" clothing ... 175 pounds or no, she would have looked a million times better in something tailored. oh, and without 4 inches of grey roots

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by danax6

How can you love someone for leaving?

Oh, I think it's easy to love someone for leaving, especially if by leaving they were taking the high road.

I mean, I'm not saying that this song is about that, but let's just use Jimmy as an example. Stevie says she was unreasonable at that stage of her life and he didn't like the drug use. If you leave a situation like that, a person in a situation like that, there could be a certain integrity in your doing so.

On the other hand, if you love someone enough, maybe you won't leave. Maybe you'd stay and try to help them survive. But actually, I think the song is more about the love you have for someone, rather than whether their conduct warrants that love. I do think that when someone walks out, you tend to love them more, because of the emptiness and the void left in their wake. You love them more because you miss them, even if they deserve that love less, because they abandoned you. I think the guys that walk out have more allure than the guys that you kick to the curb. It's like when I hear the Joe Walsh stories, I think "what a jerk and good riddance" but I think him being that way, not chasing her, leaving her, using her, kind of enhanced Stevie's feelings for him. Made her want him more.

I don't think Love Is is about the same thing. In Love Is someone has to leave against their will. They want to stay and she wants them to stay, but circumstances won't allow. So, I don't think the two songs are related by the writer. I just relate them in my own head. I just think the words remind me of each other.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by danax6

leave Rock A Little alone. I lurves it.

I don't diss RAL. I pretty much like the whole thing, but am burned out on HAEWAFY at this point in time, although I liked it well enough when I first heard it.

Rock and Roll has become a thorn in my side, something I can't touch because it hurts too much. I Can't Wait was not my favorite, but if she'd substitute that for Rock and Roll, I'd be in heaven. She could come out for the encore, playing the I Can't Wait video in the background, her breaking through the wall . . . Perfection.

No Spoken Word and Some Become Strangers would be on the top of my "Please perform live" list and that's true of Strangers, even though I usually hate for them to perform songs they didn't write.

Michele

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

see, i always thought of it as- i love you for two reasons

one for the way you walk: (the way you look; those blue eyes, being famous, being talented etc)

one for the way you love me: (the way you are, personality, the way you treat me etc)

but i'm not expert. especially on trying to figure stevie out

Yes, that falls in line with how I always heard it. I'm not big on the whole interpreting thing though. I like hearing others but I don't do well on original thought with song interpretations. I may never have even thought of these particular lyrics in *any* way, come to think of it.

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

I'm gonna say late Tango tour for that picture. I'm sure Vanessa would love to post some pictures of the mini-skirt.

Beginning of the BTM tour.