Recently banned

[vivfox]

In the song IMPERIAL HOTEL Stevie sings,"she probably goes under another name, well that's a good idea."
I too have gone under other names. My name is Mark(demo lover). I've also used the name Jack and recently Nicholas(Karat24). The reason for these alias's was because I was trying to start over, presenting myself positively. As demo lover I seemed to irk a lot of good people and that was never my intention. As Nicholas I was kind and respectful and a contributor. Here I'm using the name vivfox and I intend to ALWAYS be respectful and considerate of others. I do not wish to argue with anyone over past mistakes. I would hope that you too can forgive and forget and move on with me, looking forward to the future of this website with a wonderful new owner.
It's unfortunate to me that I have been permanently banned from 7 Wonders. As Karat24 over there, you will see proof that I can coexist kindly.

[sasja]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

We also have to keep in mind that the most recent, tragic round of bannings was under the "zero tolerance" policy of one-strike-and-yer-out, whereas in the past it was a three-strike rule. I think the three-strike policy should be reinstated and, accordingly, those previously banned after one strike should be reinstated. However, the reinstatees would have one strike on their permanent record.

Completely behind this suggestion! Good one!!

[Miss Vicky]

Originally Posted by Serrart

I agree, the one strike policy should give to all the recently banned the benefit of doubt. About the petition for every bannee I disagree, Ledgies who have more interaction would have far more chances to get back in than the less known ones. Popularity shouldn't make the difference.
I would like though if there was a kind of last chance after the third ban.

Romy

Stupid Question: Were there "less known" Ledgies that got banned under the one strike policy?

Of all the banned folks I'm aware of, they all were pretty active members of the board. Perhaps I've overlooked some?

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

Stupid Question: Were there "less known" Ledgies that got banned under the one strike policy?

Of all the banned folks I'm aware of, they all were pretty active members of the board. Perhaps I've overlooked some?

Sorry, I thought HejiraNYC's idea about a petition process for the bannees was meant in general not for the people banned under the one strike policy. IMO all of those should be allowed back in because I don 't find correct to change rules without a valid explanation (the one that was given sounded pretty weak to me). Just my opinion.

Romy

[Moony]

I say ban more people. Always.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

As long as this works better than trying to get bans lifted on a certain other board!

LOL.. Exactly!

[Moz]

I think a select few should be let back. I can't remember who was all banned, but those who were for absurd reasons, should be allowed back.

[Richard B]

If I was banned, I wouldn't want to come back. Just principle.

But then, when someone does get banned, can they just come back as a new member? Does it block IP's or something? Even if it did, most IP's are dynamic and can change.

I think if you let anyone back in, you should let everyone in. Seems a bit fascist otherwise. [rhetorical] Hell, what do I know? [/rhetorical].

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by vivfox

In the song IMPERIAL HOTEL Stevie sings,"she probably goes under another name, well that's a good idea."
I too have gone under other names. My name is Mark(demo lover). I've also used the name Jack and recently Nicholas(Karat24). The reason for these alias's was because I was trying to start over, presenting myself positively. As demo lover I seemed to irk a lot of good people and that was never my intention. As Nicholas I was kind and respectful and a contributor. Here I'm using the name vivfox and I intend to ALWAYS be respectful and considerate of others. I do not wish to argue with anyone over past mistakes. I would hope that you too can forgive and forget and move on with me, looking forward to the future of this website with a wonderful new owner.
It's unfortunate to me that I have been permanently banned from 7 Wonders. As Karat24 over there, you will see proof that I can coexist kindly.

How did having a different name make you act differently?

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by Richard B

If I was banned, I wouldn't want to come back. Just principle.

But then, when someone does get banned, can they just come back as a new member? Does it block IP's or something? Even if it did, most IP's are dynamic and can change.

I think if you let anyone back in, you should let everyone in. Seems a bit fascist otherwise. [rhetorical] Hell, what do I know? [/rhetorical].

Yeah I feel generally the same way. I like the 3 strikes rule too though. But I also feel that personally attacking someone openly warrants you a final warning and the next time you should be gone.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Yeah I feel generally the same way. I like the 3 strikes rule too though. But I also feel that personally attacking someone openly warrants you a final warning and the next time you should be gone.

I think a 3 strike is cool too, but in regards to peeps already banned, all of them should be let in that were under the no strike, no tolerance, Gestapo rule. As for the ones banned long ago under the 3 strike rule, well, I still say bring them back too. See what happens. Most of them probably wouldn't come back anyway. Which brings me to my earlier post, can't banned peeps just come back under another name anyway?

[David]

If it gets too complicated, michele is likely to put the whole place up for sale again.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by vivfox

In the song IMPERIAL HOTEL Stevie sings,"she probably goes under another name, well that's a good idea."
I too have gone under other names. My name is Mark(demo lover). I've also used the name Jack and recently Nicholas(Karat24). The reason for these alias's was because I was trying to start over, presenting myself positively. As demo lover I seemed to irk a lot of good people and that was never my intention. As Nicholas I was kind and respectful and a contributor. Here I'm using the name vivfox and I intend to ALWAYS be respectful and considerate of others. I do not wish to argue with anyone over past mistakes. I would hope that you too can forgive and forget and move on with me, looking forward to the future of this website with a wonderful new owner.
It's unfortunate to me that I have been permanently banned from 7 Wonders. As Karat24 over there, you will see proof that I can coexist kindly.

Ummmmmmm.....huh? What does this have to do with those recently banned from the Ledge because of the 1 strike rule?

Originally Posted by David

If it gets too complicated, michele is likely to put the whole place up for sale again.

I'm hoping she'll see this thread & let us know how she plans to proceed. If she doesn't intend to let any of the banned back, then we can stop discussing it. If there's a chance she'll hear people out, then we could tell those we're in touch with through other means to contact her.

I personally feel that some members should be allowed back - but not all. Quite frankly, there were some members who seemed to only be here to stir the **** pot, then cry that they were being attacked when people called them on it or disagreed with what they had to say. Has nothing to do with popularity either - there are plenty of members here that I don't like a whole lot, but I appreciate the fact that they can have a rational conversation. JMO. This place is boring as hell lately with so many of our frequent posters gone, whether they were banned or voluntarily jumped ship.

[David]

Originally Posted by skcin

I personally feel that some members should be allowed back - but not all. Quite frankly, there were some members who seemed to only be here to stir the **** pot, then cry that they were being attacked when people called them on it or disagreed with what they had to say. Has nothing to do with popularity either - there are plenty of members here that I don't like a whole lot, but I appreciate the fact that they can have a rational conversation. JMO. This place is boring as hell lately with so many of our frequent posters gone, whether they were banned or voluntarily jumped ship.

I wish Les would come back. But I fear she is long gone.

[vivfox]

This is the first time I've been a Ledggie. I was never banned from here. 7wonders banned me and Becky banned me from her site when she realized it was me on there. She banned me for what she called"forum harassment." But I never harassed anyone on her site. I was very courteous on there and very courteous as Karat24 on 7 wonders.
Like I mentioned b4, I'd like to put the past to rest and start over with a clean slate. We all have to learn lessons from mistakes we've made. If I break the rules here then please ban me but in the meantime would you please give me another chance to redeem myself? I have a lot to contribute to this site, and I'm asking all of you to please give me the oppurtunity to do so.