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Old 12-15-2002, 03:16 AM
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"Rock on gold dust woman, take your silver spoon, dig your grave..."
That whole song now that I know what it was all about.

'Love Is'. The entire song.
'Sara' makes me sad. But I love it.
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Old 12-15-2002, 03:59 AM
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>"The TAR People Are Back Again".....
>I guess no one really knows?

Tar is another name for heroin... as the song sounds to me like it's about her experience in rehab, "tar people" could refer to heroin users who were unable to stay clean. (I'm thinking of an interview quote from EW mag in which Stevie says that her Klonopin detox was 45 days, and she saw generations of other drug users who underwent much shorter treatment periods come & go)

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Old 12-15-2002, 10:06 PM
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Tar is another name for heroin... as the song sounds to me like it's about her experience in rehab, "tar people" could refer to heroin users who were unable to stay clean. (I'm thinking of an interview quote from EW mag in which Stevie says that her Klonopin detox was 45 days, and she saw generations of other drug users who underwent much shorter treatment periods come & go)

(btw, I think I chose a weird post to introduce myself with, but for the record, I've been a long-time lurker here & post on some other forums around the net. some faces here are familiar, others aren't... hope to chat with you guys often & get to know those I haven't had the pleasure of meeting yet )
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Old 12-15-2002, 10:31 PM
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Hi Tifanny, You beat me to it, but I also was going to clarify that "tar" is sometimes used as drug jargon, referring to heroin. I wasn't aware until now that Space Needle was inspired by Kurt Cobian, but it all makes sense now!
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Old 12-15-2002, 11:28 PM
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Thanks for the welcome Isabel .

And PenguinHead... that never occured to me about Space Needle having to do with Cobain. I understood the drug/rehab references, but always wondered why the space needle was mentioned in the song, as neither Betty Ford or Exodus are anywhere near Seattle. Lol. That sounds a probable theory!
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Old 12-15-2002, 11:42 PM
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I still hold Space Needle up for interpretation. I think the whole Space Needle thing might have to do with the Seattle grunge movement as a whole, which of course was pretty much led by Cobain. Mostly the whole music industry was filled with dark, angry lyrics, and around this time WAS when she was at her Klonopin height and then biggest weight after rehab. Plus, that's just part of the song. The other part is just about getting older and realizing it...they're "dying just like them," the older rock and rollers. But with Stevie, who really knows? The Space Needle in Seattle might have nothing to do with HER Space Needle. I just really want this song on the new album and hope she talks about it.

Also, thank you for clarifying what "tar people" are.
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Old 12-16-2002, 09:01 AM
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From Storms:

"Every night that goes between, I feel a little less
As you slowly go away from me, this is only another test..."

"So I try to say goodbye my friend, I'd like to leave you with something warm
For never have I been a blue-calm sea, I have always been a storm..."

"Everynight he will break your heart, I should have known from the first, I'd be the broken hearted,
But I loved you from the start..."

This song kills me.

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From Storms:

"Every night that goes between, I feel a little less
As you slowly go away from me, this is only another test..."

"So I try to say goodbye my friend, I'd like to leave you with something warm
For never have I been a blue-calm sea, I have always been a storm..."

"Everynight he will break your heart, I should have known from the first, I'd be the broken hearted,
But I loved you from the start..."

This song kills me.

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I have to agree! This is the saddest song of Stevie's. I agree with the original poster. The saddest lyrics in Storms is the last line in the song: "And not all the prayers in the world could save us." SOOOOO Sad!!!!!!!!!!!


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Old 12-18-2002, 12:14 AM
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I agree with whoever mentioned the lyric in *Beautiful Child* at the end, where Stevie sings "I wish that you were mine" over and over. There's a heartache in her voice that beats any vocal I've ever heard in any song, ever. *Beautiful Child* is one of my all-time faves of Stevie's songs anyway, but hardly anyone ever mentions it. Isn't there any other big fans of that song here? I used to play the keyboard part over and over, for hours. It's just exquisite.

Oh, and there's some sort-of sad lines in "Sara" (which is one of my other Stevie faves). "Drowning...in the sea of love...where everyone would love to drown" has a magically somber ring to me. And the line "All I ever wanted...was to know that you were dreaming" is sweetly sad.

"Poets...priests of nothing" in HAEWAFY seems not only sad, but kind of nihilistic...but I notice Stevie manages to convey a quite dark view without seeming totally anti-love or life. That seems to be a very special talent of hers.
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Old 12-18-2002, 07:44 PM
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Yes, I am a HUGE Beautiful Child fan as well. Her vocal is so well done and sounds so fragile, it's perfect for the song.

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Old 12-19-2002, 12:16 AM
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i LOVE beautiful child! it's one of my favorite Stevie songs.....and that part is so sad.....when her voice cracks "i wish that you were mine..." and she just sounds so sad.

also, one of the saddest lines ever written "and not all the prayers in the world could save us"........that line just gets me every time. it's my favorite part in storms....

oh, and also, in HAEWAFY, she only does this during live versions, and the best one is during Storytellers....but it just kills me at the end when she sings "Priests of.....*looks behind her dramatically and pauses* nothing" i LOVE that pause in between! it's just so....wow,lol. i can't describe it.
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Sara - "And there's a heart beat and it never really died"
Beautiful Child - the whole darned song makes me cry
Fire Burning - "there is no fire burning, just a soul crying"
Rose Garden - "I've got all these things, all these things but a small gold band, on my finger, on my left hand"
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I just really want this song on the new album and hope she talks about it.
I liked this song when i first heard it....I haven't played again til now...i think i could go for this on the FM album. I think it could be a real heavy rocker type....almost in the vein of "Sisters of the Moon" but yet it sort of reminds me of "Trouble in Shangri-La" (the song) and believe it or not it's got a B/N feel to me...almost like "Frozen Love"....it's got that epic feel to it. This song definately is more interesting to me than "Thrown Down" at least lyrically...i kind of like it when things aren't so literal lyrically.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off the main topic...just thought i'd add my thoughts on this song since there seemed to be a subthread going on...
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Old 12-20-2002, 10:02 PM
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I liked this song when i first heard it....I haven't played again til now...i think i could go for this on the FM album. I think it could be a real heavy rocker type....almost in the vein of "Sisters of the Moon" but yet it sort of reminds me of "Trouble in Shangri-La" (the song) and believe it or not it's got a B/N feel to me...almost like "Frozen Love"....it's got that epic feel to it. This song definately is more interesting to me than "Thrown Down" at least lyrically...i kind of like it when things aren't so literal lyrically.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off the main topic...just thought i'd add my thoughts on this song since there seemed to be a subthread going on...

duh! it would have been nice if i made reference to what song i was talking about huh? "Space Needle".
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Old 12-21-2002, 05:04 AM
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I really hope"Space Needle' turns up on the new album.I thought from the first some of it is about Kobain's death.Would love to hear Lindsey's work on it.
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