Which Stevie Contribution To Say You Will Is Your Favorite?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by danax6

I'm team captain.

Because it's the most BLAH thing ever.

EFO is just perfection, as is Thrown Down. Those two are on the top of my list, followed closely by Illume and RTTG. Destiny Rules is fairly high up there, especially because of the lyrics (we'll forget the repetitiveness for a second) and would have been higher had the vocal sounded a little more inspired, not like she was reading from the phone book.

I WOULD LOVE Destiny Rules, (it is really great) except for the goat singing in the bery beginning, and the damn lindsey hilbilly "bwwanna bwwamp bwam bwwam" guitar riff. Remove the beginning, and id ADORE it.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I WOULD LOVE Destiny Rules, (it is really great) except for the goat singing in the bery beginning, and the damn lindsey hilbilly "bwwanna bwwamp bwam bwwam" guitar riff. Remove the beginning, and id ADORE it.

...goat singing?

[Musicman408]

I honestly kind of surprised that Smile at you hasn;t gotten a vote.

Oh and also, I just noticed this a couple of days ago on Smile at you, Toward the end, while she's doing the bridge (the "what you did not need was a lady who was stronger) at the end of that little bit when she says smile at you twice, the second one is almost a capella and I really like the sound of her voice there.

Another thing I noticed a couple of days ago is right at the end of EFO, when it is starting to fade, I think it is about at 4:21, there is a little bit more of a syncapated bass riff, and I LOOOOVE it!!!!!

Anyway, just my two cents.

[Chrislit18]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

I honestly kind of surprised that Smile at you hasn;t gotten a vote.

Oh and also, I just noticed this a couple of days ago on Smile at you, Toward the end, while she's doing the bridge (the "what you did not need was a lady who was stronger) at the end of that little bit when she says smile at you twice, the second one is almost a capella and I really like the sound of her voice there.

Another thing I noticed a couple of days ago is right at the end of EFO, when it is starting to fade, I think it is about at 4:21, there is a little bit more of a syncapated bass riff, and I LOOOOVE it!!!!!

Anyway, just my two cents.

I Just Listened to ALL of Stevies SYW contributes today, and Ive decided Im happy with my choice, but I really like DR, and EFO is amazing. SG is still my least fav. on the album, but its not a horrible song.
Im posting the Thrown Down Single mix...
Its my favorite version of TD, and i just adore it.

[Dreamz19]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

I honestly kind of surprised that Smile at you hasn;t gotten a vote.

I can't speak for everyone, but I think its because people may like the Mirage era version more. At least that is how I feel about it. I really liked the SYW version (and still do), but when I heard the old demo I loved it.

[face of glass]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

the damn lindsey hilbilly "bwwanna bwwamp bwam bwwam" guitar riff

Same as in The Chain.

And my vote goes to the invisible one: Not Make Believe

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by Dreamz19

I can't speak for everyone, but I think its because people may like the Mirage era version more. At least that is how I feel about it. I really liked the SYW version (and still do), but when I heard the old demo I loved it.

bingo! i would never pick that album version in a million years.

[SpyNote]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

I honestly kind of surprised that Smile at you hasn;t gotten a vote.

Oh and also, I just noticed this a couple of days ago on Smile at you, Toward the end, while she's doing the bridge (the "what you did not need was a lady who was stronger) at the end of that little bit when she says smile at you twice, the second one is almost a capella and I really like the sound of her voice there.

Declawed is the best word I can use to describe it. It was an angry song and should have stayed that way. At the risk of sounding juvenile (and I am a little drunk at the moment), I really hate the SWY version. It sounds completely and utterly stupid. The ah-ha's are the worst part of the song.

[David]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

Declawed is the best word I can use to describe it. It was an angry song and should have stayed that way. At the risk of sounding juvenile (and I am a little drunk at the moment), I really hate the SWY version. It sounds completely and utterly stupid. The ah-ha's are the worst part of the song.

It's a throwaway Fleetwood Mac track, only it never got thrown away. If someone had played it for me without telling me FM had orchestrated & recorded it, & told me that Stevie recorded it with a bunch of whoevers playing & producing, I'd have believed him. I'd have thought the explanation made perfect sense, because it doesn't treat the sonic field the way Fleetwood traditionally does so.

Like most people with happily firing musical ideas, Lindsey miscalculates every so often. This is all my opinion. He misfires on the SYW album particularly on the engineering landscape (which blame also belongs to some other cooks) & also in his treatment of Stevie's singing voice. It's puzzling because he's always been so good with it before. At this stage of her life, she's very nasal. It sometimes sounds as if she were using her sinus cavities for reverb. From an engineer's point of view, that's the last quality you want to exaggerate in recording this person's vocals, but that's what Lindsey does on several tracks: Smile At You, Everybody Finds Out, Destiny Rules, Illume, etc. Why does he apply that hyperelectronic-sounding flange or phasing to her, thereby exaggerating those qualities in her voice that I'd think he -- & she -- would want covered up? (I sometimes think he & the engineers are trying to channel Rupert Hine.) Maybe his program is to rub our faces in this flaw, i.e. to treat the "flaw" as a strength or to alter our perception of it, kind of the way he records his drums on earlier solo projects -- to find the beauty in the degraded?

Whatever his thinking -- & I'm sure it was all conscious -- I think it's a major miscalculation. The sound of Stevie's vocals on this album are closer to the OSOTM album than any other Mac project ever was, & I bet the fans who loves this Mac album the most also love "Mirror" the most of the solo albums.

[Serrart]

Also for me is very difficult to choose at least among five songs, but I go with Destiny Rules. It has a classic taste and a minimal nuance in the lyrics that always win me over. And it becomes a quite emotional duet at the end.


Romy

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by David

It's a throwaway Fleetwood Mac track, only it never got thrown away. If someone had played it for me without telling me FM had orchestrated & recorded it, & told me that Stevie recorded it with a bunch of whoevers playing & producing, I'd have believed him. I'd have thought the explanation made perfect sense, because it doesn't treat the sonic field the way Fleetwood traditionally does so.

Like most people with happily firing musical ideas, Lindsey miscalculates every so often. This is all my opinion. He misfires on the SYW album particularly on the engineering landscape (which blame also belongs to some other cooks) & also in his treatment of Stevie's singing voice. It's puzzling because he's always been so good with it before. At this stage of her life, she's very nasal. It sometimes sounds as if she were using her sinus cavities for reverb. From an engineer's point of view, that's the last quality you want to exaggerate in recording this person's vocals, but that's what Lindsey does on several tracks: Smile At You, Everybody Finds Out, Destiny Rules, Illume, etc. Why does he apply that hyperelectronic-sounding flange or phasing to her, thereby exaggerating those qualities in her voice that I'd think he -- & she -- would want covered up? (I sometimes think he & the engineers are trying to channel Rupert Hine.) Maybe his program is to rub our faces in this flaw, i.e. to treat the "flaw" as a strength or to alter our perception of it, kind of the way he records his drums on earlier solo projects -- to find the beauty in the degraded?

Whatever his thinking -- & I'm sure it was all conscious -- I think it's a major miscalculation. The sound of Stevie's vocals on this album are closer to the OSOTM album than any other Mac project ever was, & I bet the fans who loves this Mac album the most also love "Mirror" the most of the solo albums.

THAT is what i was trying to say.

[TrueFaith77]

I voted for "Destiny Rules" because I think it's the summary track on the album (appropriately named documentary), because of Lindsey's Marr-ish guitar playing and because of Stevie's impassioned vocals/lyrics. . . and because of the way it ties in the beautiful "Illume" with the rest of the album. That said: I could have easily sided with "Everybody Finds Out" (the strings at the end!), "Running Through the Garden" (which might just be Stevie's most palpable(?) metaphor since "Landslide"), and, of course, the classic "Thrown Down" which, for me, might just be the new "Gypsy" . . . and that's a good thing.

[SpyNote]

A lot of fans are comparing Thrown Down to Gypsy, but I don't hear this. Is it the music? Are they written in the same key? Do they use the same chords? Same kind of guitar? I see Gypsy is in a whole different league.

[David]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

A lot of fans are comparing Thrown Down to Gypsy, but I don't hear this. Is it the music? Are they written in the same key? Do they use the same chords? Same kind of guitar? I see Gypsy is in a whole different league.

So do I. I don't hear musical similarities. Maybe lyric similarities?

[danax6]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

A lot of fans are comparing Thrown Down to Gypsy, but I don't hear this. Is it the music? Are they written in the same key? Do they use the same chords? Same kind of guitar? I see Gypsy is in a whole different league.

I think it's because Gypsy and Thrown Down are both seen as some of Lindsey's and Stevie's best collaborations.