Please Die Fighting for My Rights

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Vitrex mainly is Tribulus Terrestris, a plant extract that stimulates the pituitary gland, freeing bound testosterone in the body.

you had bound testosterone? tsk tsk so, now you're FREE!!! you've burned your jock strap so to speak! good for you Jason! how LIBERATED you must feel!

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by The Tower

Who are you kidding????


Uh- yeah you did.

Nice try, though. I think this comment stands on its own... which was yer "**** you, literally". Which is seemingly scrubbed from this website.....

Bleh. Done.

I am not kidding anyone. I didnt ridicule anyone, if thats the way you took it I'm sorry...and I admit some of my choice of words were less than spectacular...it wasnt meant as ridicule. You, simply choose disregard any of my beliefs and thus, disregard me and my opinion. You'd hardly offered anything credible to this argument/discussion. And, proof of that is when you took a cheap shot at me. The "f*ck you, literally" was actually mostly tongue in cheek. I didnt delete it.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Oh go ahead - jump in feet first

Well, I was just going to respond to the comment way back, something like "how can you look at the wonders of the world and not believe in God."

The closest I come to believing in a God is when I look at an orchid. I find them to be so exquisite that I think it had to be designed. But then I realize that my perception of its beauty comes from my physical reaction to it and that not everyone has the same reaction. At that point it doesn't seem like any kind of intelligent design.

I'm 100% agnostic. I think there is something bigger than this/us but there really isn't a shred of evidence to back that up.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Well, I was just going to respond to the comment way back, something like "how can you look at the wonders of the world and not believe in God."

The closest I come to believing in a God is when I look at an orchid. I find them to be so exquisite that I think it had to be designed. But then I realize that my perception of its beauty comes from my physical reaction to it and that not everyone has the same reaction. At that point it doesn't seem like any kind of intelligent design.

I'm 100% agnostic. I think there is something bigger than this/us but there really isn't a shred of evidence to back that up.

FENCE RIDER

Just joking!

I get what you are saying. I just find it better for me to try and quantify and qualify that something. But, to each their own.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I get what you are saying. I just find it better for me to try and quantify and qualify that something. But, to each their own.

How do you go about trying to quantify/qualify? I spent a good 2 years pursuing spirituality, trying to find answers, studying "paranormal", etc. following my partner's death and I wound up finding so many contradictions, illogical arguments, missing parts, etc. that I just decided it's better not to dwell on it too much. I did go from being atheist to agnostic in the process, however.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

How do you go about trying to quantify/qualify? I spent a good 2 years pursuing spirituality, trying to find answers, studying "paranormal", etc. following my partner's death and I wound up finding so many contradictions, illogical arguments, missing parts, etc. that I just decided it's better not to dwell on it too much. I did go from being atheist to agnostic in the process, however.

Pantheism is the closest I can come to describing my theological POV, as a Buddhist. I wonder, though, if some people aren't just hard-wired to be atheist or agnostic, the same way some people seem hard-wired to be introverts or extroverts.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

How do you go about trying to quantify/qualify? I spent a good 2 years pursuing spirituality, trying to find answers, studying "paranormal", etc. following my partner's death and I wound up finding so many contradictions, illogical arguments, missing parts, etc. that I just decided it's better not to dwell on it too much. I did go from being atheist to agnostic in the process, however.

I, too, felt as if my life had no answers, but not out of a tragedy such as your's, which must have devastated you. So, I searched for them. I studied most of the major organized Christian religions, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. After doing all that, I just sort of came to my own realization that most organized religion, which can do some outstandingly good things, was all about money, control and power. Most of those also had the missing parts, etc. you mentioned So, I kind of made up my own hybrid. It works for me though.

I must say though, that I love going to church. I like the pomp and circumstance. I also love the singing and the society obtained.

But, to each their own.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I, too, felt as if my life had no answers, but not out of a tragedy such as your's, which must have devastated you. So, I searched for them. I studied most of the major organized Christian religions, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. After doing all that, I just sort of came to my own realization that most organized religion, which can do some outstandingly good things, was all about money, control and power. Most of those also had the missing parts, etc. you mentioned So, I kind of made up my own hybrid. It works for me though.

I must say though, that I love going to church. I like the pomp and circumstance. I also love the singing and the society obtained.

But, to each their own.

the key is "organized religion". its about POWER, first and foremost. power over the gullible, power over the guilty. originally, that power aligned itself with the political heads of state, and then eclipsed them during the Middle Ages. Now, organized religion has become a BUSINESS, same as the Mafia and the Hells Angels. (trite I know, but it works!)

Earth based, or aboriginal religions are NOT about power but about getting in touch with the Higher Power. In the West, we lost our way. Sad but true.

If we ever looked WITHIN, instead of WITHOUT, we'd probably find more answers....