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Old 08-09-2007, 04:10 PM
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^^What's the reason behind the change in rules?
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Old 08-09-2007, 04:55 PM
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We've had no moderation for several months
The answer is there if you want to see it.
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:12 PM
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What I've seen is erratic, inconsistent moderation ranging from overkill to complete absence for months. I've recently seen a moderator come in and scold a member publicly in a thread while telling the rest of us to take our issues with moderators to PMs. And now I see a dramatic change, effective "immediately', taking us from no moderation to extreme clampdown. And for no stated reason, as if we aren't a community, but just a bunch of "members" who should feel lucky to be here and happily submit to control.
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:37 PM
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We had previously tried quietly stepping back a little, to give people the chance to moderate their own behavior, but that was taken advantage of and a change needed to be made to help curb the ever-increasing number of severe rule violations.

We -- the moderators and Marty -- knew the decision wouldn't be popular with some visitors, but it was deemed necessary to help make a smooth transition from Marty's ownership to that of any potential buyers.

The "Three Strikes" policy may have changed, but the rest of the guidelines remain as they've been for seven years.

Now, with all due respect, anything more that we say on the matter will just be repetition.
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:08 PM
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We had previously tried quietly stepping back a little, to give people the chance to moderate their own behavior.
Really? For what purpose?
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:10 PM
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He was never as good a mod as you, right Chrissy?
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:25 PM
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All Sugar did was ask for people to stop the bickering. Take the fight to PMs.....no big deal IMO.

Randomly picking people to strike or ban is not new around here...all parties who break rules should be banned. Or none of them should be.
Marty made his new position very clear and if rules were broken, I guess we should have expected this. .

The Sticky with the bold "PLEASE READ" was the first thing I noticed when I logged on to the board, after it was posted by Marty. It still jumps out at me as soon as I sign on.........it is at the top of every single forum with capital letters. With all the hard work, money, and time that Marty and Lis have put in to their site, it must be rather disheartening to watch all that has happened in the last few years, esp on the Chit Chat Ledge. I really hope they can find a buyer who is willing to deal with all the drama, and keep the forums up and running.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:14 PM
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Personally, I see the 1 strike rule as a way for Marty and Lis to weed out the and elements before they sell to whomever. You can argue whether or not the
way its been done is right or not, but maybe theyre trying to clean things up before the new owner takes over and maybe decided to shut everything down because they dont like what they see? Just a thought.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:28 AM
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With all the hard work, money, and time that Marty and Lis have put in to their site, it must be rather disheartening to watch all that has happened in the last few years, esp on the Chit Chat Ledge.
Trying to moderate that thing was at times like tyring to fight off a beast with a fork. Don't knock it until you've tried it.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:15 AM
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I am going to say something-at great risk for getting pummeled. I just e-mailed a friend, also a member here. I just don't understand how these websites became so dramatic and unfriendly. To the point of bannings and websites shutting down because the owners don't want to deal with it anymore-we are admirers of one of the best and oldest still productive bands in the world. I have gone to many concerts-Fleetwood Mac has very unique mellow, peace-loving crowd. I truly believe I have walked by many of you at one time or another in my life-I've live on the east coast, and I've lived in the west. Now that this is on its way to being shut down, where are the fans going to go????? Please everyone, get a grip and don't ruin it for everyone, let things go........

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Old 08-10-2007, 09:05 AM
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I just remember how much it sucked when the board was down for a week...and how happy I and everyone was when it came back.

We've lost that lovin' feeling...

Take the "fights" to PM's/e-mail or let it go and you won't get booted. Simple.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:27 AM
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way its been done is right or not.
Yes, that's what I was doing. I was just asking for a more fair and transparent process and better communication. And maybe a few more days to let people learn about the new rules before enforcement. Going from an experiment of no moderation (per what JS has said) to one strike and you're gone is dramatic and I would give at least a week and a couple of reminders to make sure people were aware of new rules. Like I've said a zillion times, the owner and moderators have a right to do whatever they want, but I wish they were a little more open to feedback instead of getting defensive every time someone challenges them or makes a suggestion.

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Old 08-12-2007, 04:01 PM
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Welcome to the new & improved ledge.

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Old 08-12-2007, 08:35 PM
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I am going to say something-at great risk for getting pummeled. I just e-mailed a friend, also a member here. I just don't understand how these websites became so dramatic and unfriendly. To the point of bannings and websites shutting down because the owners don't want to deal with it anymore-we are admirers of one of the best and oldest still productive bands in the world. I have gone to many concerts-Fleetwood Mac has very unique mellow, peace-loving crowd. I truly believe I have walked by many of you at one time or another in my life-I've live on the east coast, and I've lived in the west. Now that this is on its way to being shut down, where are the fans going to go????? Please everyone, get a grip and don't ruin it for everyone, let things go........

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Old 08-12-2007, 11:29 PM
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will the banned people get a chance to re-register with a new owner?
just curious....
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