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Old 08-06-2007, 09:56 PM
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i think both stevie and lindsey are very talented in their own right. Most of this just boils down to the FM fan individual and what makes them tick. or, cry like a baby, if you will

there are some people who are really touched by the lyrics and the way they are sung. The emotion, the power behind what the words mean, and why they were written. Then there are those who would want to slit their wrists after listening to a guitar solos because they are so haunting and sad. Or....drum solo, if you will those people who just "get it". They can hear the emotion and turmoil in instrumentals, or solos. Or it can make them happy. Words don't matter...they dont' matter at all, baby


Me personally, I'm a lyric person. that is how music inspires me and grabs my soul. I need to know every word to a song, and perferably why it was written. what was the writer going through when it was written and how does that fit into my life? They words I can understand. The other...not so much. maybe one day.



I've had this conversation with MULTIPLE fm fans over the years and one things always remains the same-no agreement has ever been made

so I think it boils down mostly to the fan himself, rather than the personal achievements of stevie or lindsey themselves.

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Old 08-07-2007, 08:00 AM
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I imagine wonderful things from him if he had chosen to compose, say, film scores all these years. Instead, we get a lot of retro conservatism from guys like Howard Shore & James Newton Howard. But Lindsey had the ability to create movie scores that you could talk about seriously, like the renaissance in scoring for the French New Wave when songwriters like Jean Constantin & Maurice Jarre created experimental but hugely popular scores that were equal to the characters in importance. But, heckers, he didn't ....
I don't know. You mean he can orchestrate effectively enough for a whole soundtrack or that he could create two or three wonderful guitar driven pieces to insert in a movie? I'd totally agree on the second option, but have some doubts on the first. Besides, it's not all retro conservatism. IMO, now and then there have been, in recent years, also fantastic and very innovative soundtracks created by Clint Mansell, Arvo Part or Tan Dun.


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Old 08-07-2007, 11:19 AM
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I don't know. You mean he can orchestrate effectively enough for a whole soundtrack
Absolutely. I think he has (or had) the musical intelligence & the abundance of ideas to have composed entire scores. He certainly can't orchestrate in the traditional sense -- he can't notate parts for the various instruments of the orchestra -- but neither can a lot of score writers & it doesn't stop them from scoring on a single instrument (say, a synthesizer) & then handing it over to an accomplished orchestrator. I doubt Randy Newman wrote out the orchestration for his score for "The Natural," & I know even orchestra-literate composers from the old days, like Stothart & Newman, sometimes would turn over orchestration duties to someone else. (Even John Williams let someone else orchestrate much of his "Close Encounters" score.) But Lindsey could have written good scores for other combinations of digital, electronic & electromechanical instruments & just avoided traditional orchestration entirely -- or "faked" traditional assignments of instruments on a workstation. I have no doubt he can find his way around a workstation, & that's all it takes to write all sorts of music these days. (I'm thinking of compositions like "Christian Zeal & Activity" or "Hoodoo Zephyr" by Adams. Lindsey will never write a "Shaker Loops," but he might have written the either of the former.)

But beyond the technical ability to have done so, he had the musical ability as well. I wonder whether the idea ever occurred to him, or whether someone else ever pitched the idea to him & he declined. We're so used to thinking of him in terms of the pop song format because that's virtually all he has worked in all his life. (We used to think that way of Danny Elfman, too, back in the "Only a Lad" days.) I'm puzzled as to why he kept returning to that format over the years, to the exclusion of other formats, especially when he usually couldn't acquire the audience he probably wanted. Even without movie scores, he might have tried lengthy suites the size of an entire CD (which of course has already been pioneered by pop musicians from ELO to Kate Bush).

I think the old folkie ways circa 1962 die hard in Lindsey.
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But Lindsey could have written good scores for other combinations of digital, electronic & electromechanical instruments & just avoided traditional orchestration entirely -- or "faked" traditional assignments of instruments on a workstation. I have no doubt he can find his way around a workstation, & that's all it takes to write all sorts of music these days. (I'm thinking of compositions like "Christian Zeal & Activity" or "Hoodoo Zephyr" by Adams. Lindsey will never write a "Shaker Loops," but he might have written the either of the former.)

But beyond the technical ability to have done so, he had the musical ability as well. I wonder whether the idea ever occurred to him, or whether someone else ever pitched the idea to him & he declined. We're so used to thinking of him in terms of the pop song format because that's virtually all he has worked in all his life. (We used to think that way of Danny Elfman, too, back in the "Only a Lad" days.) I'm puzzled as to why he kept returning to that format over the years, to the exclusion of other formats, especially when he usually couldn't acquire the audience he probably wanted. Even without movie scores, he might have tried lengthy suites the size of an entire CD (which of course has already been pioneered by pop musicians from ELO to Kate Bush).

I think the old folkie ways circa 1962 die hard in Lindsey.

Lindsey like John Adams? That's quite an interesting comparison. I also don't see him able to create anything like Shaker Loops but I see your point on Hoodoo Zephyr (not my cup of tea though, even if I don't know him very well, I much prefer his concertos or chamber works). I guess teorically probably he has the skills to follow that path, but does he have also that kind of mental discipline? By the way I would be very intrigued to hear some suites from him.

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Actually, she said "I think I aws singing through one of his solos or something," which is consistent with what she and others have said before If you have any contrary quotes from her or others, let's see them

Nice try though
Lindsey looks like he wants to throw his Les Paul at her here too!!!
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Or, nail her to the stage or an amp, which according to more than one happened more than once on that tour

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Could someone who has this inform me of something? I thought this articlewould be in the Sept issue also featuring Siouxsie Sioux. Then I get an alert from Siouxsie's MySpace board that she is in the Oct. issue. I just need help, cause I am seeking this. My 2 fav girls in one issue? Is that possible? Thanks in advance. I do belive there were some scans here, but my PC is being dumb, and I'm just getting lil red x's. ty
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Could someone who has this inform me of something? I thought this articlewould be in the Sept issue also featuring Siouxsie Sioux. Then I get an alert from Siouxsie's MySpace board that she is in the Oct. issue. I just need help, cause I am seeking this. My 2 fav girls in one issue? Is that possible? Thanks in advance. I do belive there were some scans here, but my PC is being dumb, and I'm just getting lil red x's. ty
From what I can see of the scan of the cover I think they are both in the same magazine.......
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And that's the Sept issue right? Where do you see the cover. What I thought were scans were the utube things. TY amy
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And that's the Sept issue right? Where do you see the cover. What I thought were scans were the utube things. TY amy

You can see what the mag front looks like on their site as well... http://www.mojo4music.com/
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Lindsey looks like he wants to throw his Les Paul at her here too!!!
I always loved Stevie's "CCCCCHHHHAAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNNNN"
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I always loved Stevie's "CCCCCHHHHAAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNNNN"
I miss the ethereal belting....
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