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Old 08-11-2007, 08:45 PM
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[QUOTE=strandinthewind;711043]I was widely known that she huer her hip/leg right before the tour started. Actually, that tour was just junxed at the brginning:

1. A heartbreaker essentially killed himself with drugs during the press for the album release.

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Old 08-11-2007, 08:53 PM
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From Wikipedia:

Epstein died of drug overdose. Investigators were told Epstein had been using heroin. Howie was driven to St. Vincent Hospital by his girlfriend, who described him as "under distress."

Epstein was taking antibiotics for an illness, and he had recently suffered from flu, stomach problems and an abscess on his leg, friends said.

"Apparently he passed out in the bathroom, and (his girlfriend) drove him to the hospital," Madrid said.

on February 23, 2003 at the age of 47. Reportedly he was extremely despondent over the death of his 16 year-old German Shepherd a few days earlier. In recent interviews, Tom Petty admitted that Epstein's behavior had become unpredictable: "He was just degenerating on us to the point where we thought keeping Howie in the band was actually doing him more harm than getting rid of him. His personal problems were vast and serious."

"We tried everything we could to reach him but it got to the point where his ability to do gigs was diminishing." Finally, Petty took the decision to recall Ron Blair to the Heartbreakers. He said, "Eventually, we realized that we were just contributing to the problem. When you're living a life where you really don't have any responsibilities, it's easy for evil forces to take over."

"I'm devastated," said Carlene Carter, the stepdaughter of country singer Johnny Cash and daughter of June Carter Cash. "I loved him very much. My kids thought of Howie as their father."

Petty wrote the following in an article for Rolling Stone in response to Howie's death: "…there’s a great sadness, because Howie was never not a Heartbreaker. He just got to where he couldn’t do it anymore. …It’s like you got a tree dying in the backyard. And you’re kind of used to the idea that it’s dying. But you look out there one day and they cut it down. And you just can’t imagine that beautiful tree isn’t there anymore."
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Old 08-11-2007, 08:58 PM
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FM did a video show for, I think, Marck and Brian, and LA show, I believe the afternoon of the day of the funeral. They all looked like hell and La Nicks was pretty much a zombie - but she and they made it through the interview. DOes anyone have it to post? If so, thanks!!!!
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:11 PM
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I was widely known that she hurt her hip/leg right before the tour started. Actually, that tour was just jinxed at the beginning:

1. A heartbreaker essentially killed himself with drugs during the press for the album release.

2. She was going through menopause - where is that "fanning herself" avatar

3. LB/SN DRAMA - both public Ithe interviews) and, and according to eyewitnesses and gossips, private

4. An expensive album that comparatively tanked - I bet the record sales did not even pay for the rental on the Bel Air mansion it was recorded in for a year.

I will say this though - she came back like gangbusters on the second and third legs!!! Remember the Madison, Atlanta, and Detroit shows - all those twirls
She did seem to be feeling much better in Madison. But we both clearly knew that something wasn't right that evening when the band and crew came into the hotel. You could just feel it. Plus they were coming off that MTV showcase trip to New York. Ever the trooper, she seemed to just deal with it. But after all these years I guess she has learned to adjust. And then the next night was the one where Lindsey had guitar issues during Say Goodbye, wasn't it? Then there was the Don't Let Me Down Again thing where the tempo got screwed up. It was great to hear that song live again but it just wasn't that tight.

Detroit was awesome because you got her to come over to us on Lindsey's side and do the big twirl and the funny face. The show was really good too. I can't believe she went up to her room at 3 AM and then got on a plane the next morning. After a few drinky poos no less! I was absolutely fried that day. I think I came straight from the airport and went to bed. And I was drinking water.
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FM did a video show for, I think, Marck and Brian, and LA show, I believe the afternoon of the day of the funeral. They all looked like hell and La Nicks was pretty much a zombie - but she and they made it through the interview. DOes anyone have it to post? If so, thanks!!!!
I think I might still have that on my computer. But wasn't it for the AOL Sessions?
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:30 PM
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Yea - Madison def. had some "Ghosts in the Machine" so to speak!

I do remember that about Detroit and the fact that I believe on the "blow" - of "Listen to the wind blow" she looked directly acorss the stage at me and you were like "somebody just clocked you" The remainder of the night will live in infamy and and please remember you came very close to getting sold into white slavery for directions home and who the hell ever heard of a Burker King closing that early when I had to pee Isn't it ironic that the only people on the street AT ALL in Detroit appeared to be scary and in fact were - though we escaped unscathed with just hearts a racing - go figure. We should had had Foxx's people drive us
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I think I might still have that on my computer. But wasn't it for the AOL Sessions?
It might have been. But, I think it was in a radio station. There were lots of threads about it at the time, but I cannot find them now.
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. . . I can't believe she went up to her room at 3 AM and then got on a plane the next morning. After a few drinky poos no less! I was absolutely fried that day.
Tacos from craft service - that is all I am saying -- well that and I was not holding

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I think I came straight from the airport and went to bed. And I was drinking water.

Lord Child - I get back to my room at like 3:00 a.m. as well - was up at 5:30 and had to ride with your insane driving while in the latter part of a grand intoxicated state You are so damn luck I did not travel with the dogs then
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Tacos from craft service - that is all I am saying -- well that and I was not holding :
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Lord Child - I get back to my room at like 3:00 a.m. as well - was up at 5:30 and had to ride with your insane driving while in the latter part of a grand intoxicated state You are so damn luck I did not travel with the dogs then
It was like 5AM Mountain time. I'm sorry for the driving. Mustang convertibles are made to be driven, especially in Detroit! Good times.

Also here is the link to the interview I think you were talking about;
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Yea - Madison def. had some "Ghosts in the Machine" so to speak!

I do remember that about Detroit and the fact that I believe on the "blow" - of "Listen to the wind blow" she looked directly acorss the stage at me and you were like "somebody just clocked you" The remainder of the night will live in infamy and and please remember you came very close to getting sold into white slavery for directions home and who the hell ever heard of a Burker King closing that early when I had to pee Isn't it ironic that the only people on the street AT ALL in Detroit appeared to be scary and in fact were - though we escaped unscathed with just hearts a racing - go figure. We should had had Foxx's people drive us
Ken and Barbie lost in their convertible on Eight Mile Road, with Barbie at the wheel...oh.
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I think this is the one. She doesn't really look pissed. She just looks sad. The interviewer is at an odd angle, but she is not looking at anything. She also is blinking constantly and LB is looking maybe in a worried manner at her, like she may cry at any minute while Mick is explaining CM's absence.

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I got a little spooked looking at it first ... Scared me a little!

But yes, that's her.
It's quite a macabre picture and my first impression was that it's Celine Dion on her deathbed
But i guess it is Stevie, considering the cardigan...then again look at this :
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I think this is the one. She doesn't really look pissed. She just looks sad. The interviewer is at an odd angle, but she is not looking at anything. She also is blinking constantly and LB is looking maybe in a worried manner at her, like she may cry at any minute while Mick is explaining CM's absence.

Thanks for the link!
I had never seen this before - thanks for posting !
I just love it when LB tries to cheer her up by leaning into her; soooo cute !
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LB made her wear it
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It was like a switch had been flipped somewhere in late August/early September right before the second leg. She came back a whole new person.

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Not to completely act my age...BUT LOOK AT DEM' TIT-AYS!

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