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[strandinthewind]

. . . but, after you are dead, you are a filthy fag who does not deserve a proper burial - hmmmm, what would Jesus say?

Church Cancels Memorial for Gay Navy Vet

By ANGELA K. BROWN
Associated Press Writer

ARLINGTON, Texas — A megachurch canceled a memorial service for a Navy veteran 24 hours before it was to start because the deceased was gay.

Officials at the nondenominational High Point Church knew that Cecil Howard Sinclair was gay when they offered to host his service, said his sister, Kathleen Wright. But after his obituary listed his life partner as one of his survivors, she said, it was called off.

"It's a slap in the face. It's like, 'Oh, we're sorry he died, but he's gay so we can't help you,'" she said Friday.

Wright said High Point offered to hold the service for Sinclair because their brother is a janitor there. Sinclair, who served in the first Gulf War, died Monday at age 46 from an infection after surgery to prepare him for a heart transplant.

The church's pastor, the Rev. Gary Simons, said no one knew Sinclair, who was not a church member, was gay until the day before the Thursday service, when staff members putting together his video tribute saw pictures of men "engaging in clear affection, kissing and embracing."

Simons said the church believes homosexuality is a sin, and it would have appeared to endorse that lifestyle if the service had been held there.

"We did decline to host the service — not based on hatred, not based on discrimination, but based on principle," Simons told The Associated Press. "Had we known it on the day they first spoke about it — yes, we would have declined then. It's not that we didn't love the family." [My Fav. Line ]
Simons said the decision had nothing to do with the obituary. He said the church offered to pay for another site for the service, made the video and provided food for more than 100 relatives and friends. [and. while your at it, filthy black people should use this special door ]

"Even though we could not condone that lifestyle, we went above and beyond for the family through many acts of love and kindness," Simons said.

Wright called the church's claim about the pictures "a bold-faced lie." She said she provided numerous family pictures of Sinclair, including some with his partner, but said none showed men kissing or hugging.

The 5,000-member High Point Church was founded in 2000 by Simons and his wife, April, whose brother is Joel Osteen, well-known pastor of the 38,000-member Lakewood Church in Houston. Now High Point meets in a 432,000-square-foot facility in Arlington, near Dallas.

Wright said relatives declined the church's offer to hold the service at a community center because they felt it was an inappropriate venue. It ultimately was held at a funeral home, but the cancellation still lingered in some minds, she said.

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On the Net:

High Point Church: http://www.churchunusual.com


Find this article at:
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shar...ge_tab_newstab (emphasis and commentary supplied)

[BlackWidow]

Truly DISGUSTING!!!

[Sarah]

Pathetic, brainwashed little pigs.

I wouldn't want my funeral in that church anyway.

[gldstwmn]

I could go on quite a bender about what I think of the Osteen church philosophy. But that's beside the point. These church people suck.
On another note, did you hear that Fred Phelps is planning on protesting the funerals of the victims of the Minneapolis bridge collapse?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I could go on quite a bender about what I think of the Osteen church philosophy.

I read his book and it was all about put the issue with the Lord and He will see to it that it happens if you have faith. I thought that sure was a nice thought, but The Lord helps those who helps themselves and no matter how faithful you are, the rent is due on the first and likely no one is just going to hand it to you every month. So, I concluded his book was full of shiite. He has good hair though.

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

On another note, did you hear that Fred Phelps is planning on protesting the funerals of the victims of the Minneapolis bridge collapse?

Bless his heart! I hope God does not judge him as inanely as he has judged his fellow man in the name of God.

[strandinthewind]

To sick for words

Fred Phelps Is Coming
by: Eric Black
Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 10:27:54 AM

The Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., plans to stage protests at funerals of victims of the 35W bridge collapse to state that God made the bridge fall because he hates America, and especially Minnesota, because of its tolerance of homosexuality.
The church and its pastor, the Rev. Fred Phelps, have become notorious over recent years for their claim that the attack of 9/11 was an act of God's vengeance and their determination to make that case at the funerals of U.S. soldiers who died in Iraq.

In a press release issued the day after the bridge collapse, the church called for protests at the funerals and outlined its feelings about the relationship between God's plan and the sins of Minneapolis and Minnesota, which it calls the "land of the Sodomite damned."

Reached at the church, Shirley Phelps Roper, who is both the daughter of the pastor and one of the attorneys for the church, said that America, and Minnesota especially, have alienated God by its tolerance for homosexuality, and that the bridge collapse was an act of God's vengeance. She said:

"The bridge stood in place by the word of God and it fell by the word of God...Each of these little events is just a harbinger of the coming destruction of this American experiment. We are delivering the final call of the doomed nation."
She said, as they have done for years, members of the church would stand "lawfully and peacefully on the public right of way" near the funerals and "put in the air words of praying and instruction and warning."
The signs that the protesters will wave will read:


"God cast down the bridge... Thank God for 9/11... America is doomed... God hates fags... God hates fag enablers... God hates Minnesota."

http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/show...o?diaryId=2184

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I read his book and it was all about put the issue with the Lord and He will see to it that it happens if you have faith. I thought that sure was a nice thought, but The Lord helps those who helps themselves and no matter how faithful you are, the rent is due on the first and likely no one is just going to hand it to you every month. So, I concluded his book was full of shiite. He has good hair though.

Exactly. Handsome guy, nice looking wife. His heart seems to be in the right place. But then, so does his wallet.

[Starling]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

To sick for words

Fred Phelps Is Coming
by: Eric Black
Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 10:27:54 AM

The Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., plans to stage protests at funerals of victims of the 35W bridge collapse to state that God made the bridge fall because he hates America, and especially Minnesota, because of its tolerance of homosexuality.
The church and its pastor, the Rev. Fred Phelps, have become notorious over recent years for their claim that the attack of 9/11 was an act of God's vengeance and their determination to make that case at the funerals of U.S. soldiers who died in Iraq.

In a press release issued the day after the bridge collapse, the church called for protests at the funerals and outlined its feelings about the relationship between God's plan and the sins of Minneapolis and Minnesota, which it calls the "land of the Sodomite damned."

Reached at the church, Shirley Phelps Roper, who is both the daughter of the pastor and one of the attorneys for the church, said that America, and Minnesota especially, have alienated God by its tolerance for homosexuality, and that the bridge collapse was an act of God's vengeance. She said:

"The bridge stood in place by the word of God and it fell by the word of God...Each of these little events is just a harbinger of the coming destruction of this American experiment. We are delivering the final call of the doomed nation."
She said, as they have done for years, members of the church would stand "lawfully and peacefully on the public right of way" near the funerals and "put in the air words of praying and instruction and warning."
The signs that the protesters will wave will read:


"God cast down the bridge... Thank God for 9/11... America is doomed... God hates fags... God hates fag enablers... God hates Minnesota."

http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/show...o?diaryId=2184

Honestly. Does that *even* make sense? Since when is God about vengeance? What kind of 'loving' God is this? Not my kind...

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Starling

Honestly. Does that *even* make sense? Since when is God about vengeance? What kind of 'loving' God is this? Not my kind...

If you want to fill your coffers, preach hate - sad, but very true

[danax6]

God bless America.

[LiamMcConville]

That article about Fred Felps is too damn funny. I cannot stand bible beaters, especially people like that. Its just so appalling and far-fetched to me I can't help but laugh hysterically. Pft, people and their ridiculous beliefs these days. Everyone should be like me and become a Nonexistentialist.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

. . . but, after you are dead, you are a filthy fag who does not deserve a proper burial - hmmmm, what would Jesus say?

Church Cancels Memorial for Gay Navy Vet

By ANGELA K. BROWN
Associated Press Writer

ARLINGTON, Texas — A megachurch canceled a memorial service for a Navy veteran 24 hours before it was to start because the deceased was gay.

Officials at the nondenominational High Point Church knew that Cecil Howard Sinclair was gay when they offered to host his service, said his sister, Kathleen Wright. But after his obituary listed his life partner as one of his survivors, she said, it was called off.

"It's a slap in the face. It's like, 'Oh, we're sorry he died, but he's gay so we can't help you,'" she said Friday.

Wright said High Point offered to hold the service for Sinclair because their brother is a janitor there. Sinclair, who served in the first Gulf War, died Monday at age 46 from an infection after surgery to prepare him for a heart transplant.

The church's pastor, the Rev. Gary Simons, said no one knew Sinclair, who was not a church member, was gay until the day before the Thursday service, when staff members putting together his video tribute saw pictures of men "engaging in clear affection, kissing and embracing."

Simons said the church believes homosexuality is a sin, and it would have appeared to endorse that lifestyle if the service had been held there.

"We did decline to host the service — not based on hatred, not based on discrimination, but based on principle," Simons told The Associated Press. "Had we known it on the day they first spoke about it — yes, we would have declined then. It's not that we didn't love the family." [My Fav. Line ]
Simons said the decision had nothing to do with the obituary. He said the church offered to pay for another site for the service, made the video and provided food for more than 100 relatives and friends. [and. while your at it, filthy black people should use this special door ]

"Even though we could not condone that lifestyle, we went above and beyond for the family through many acts of love and kindness," Simons said.

Wright called the church's claim about the pictures "a bold-faced lie." She said she provided numerous family pictures of Sinclair, including some with his partner, but said none showed men kissing or hugging.

The 5,000-member High Point Church was founded in 2000 by Simons and his wife, April, whose brother is Joel Osteen, well-known pastor of the 38,000-member Lakewood Church in Houston. Now High Point meets in a 432,000-square-foot facility in Arlington, near Dallas.

Wright said relatives declined the church's offer to hold the service at a community center because they felt it was an inappropriate venue. It ultimately was held at a funeral home, but the cancellation still lingered in some minds, she said.

My thoughts...

This would be no different, or worse than your own parent not showing at your funeral. Or not participating in your life because you are homosexual. I dont see where the distinction is drawn. The church itself has the right to do what they did, in my opinion. If this young man's mother or sister refused to host the service because she didnt agree with his lifestyle choice...then everyone's panties would still be in an uproar. Its only because the church was involved that media attention was brought to it. It seems to me, from what I read (if its true) that they did indeed try to help the family. I think the church upholding its right to not condone homosexuality is fair. However, there's probably some discrimination loopholes in there since churches are also considered "businesses."

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Exactly. Handsome guy, nice looking wife. His heart seems to be in the right place. But then, so does his wallet.

He's too happy-go-lucky for me. Tickle the ears a little bit and make you feel warm and fuzzy. In terms of the ministry, I dont believe I've ever once see him preach against sinful nature.

I personally believe you cant go thru this life, and do whatever the f*ck you want, and expect to have the open-armed God waiting at the end of it for you. I believe he loves us unconditionally, yes, but I dont believe the God of the universe will condone your murdering, thievery, raping, lust for money, etc. That being said, I think we can experience a change of heart and turn from those things and start over. What I'm saying is, I dont think you can expect eternal bliss if you happen to die the same time you're slitting someone's throat.

[estranged4life]

More relig-a-tarded BS from more idiots of this country known as the United States of Hypocrisy

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

My thoughts...

This would be no different, or worse than your own parent not showing at your funeral. Or not participating in your life because you are homosexual. I dont see where the distinction is drawn. The church itself has the right to do what they did, in my opinion. If this young man's mother or sister refused to host the service because she didnt agree with his lifestyle choice...then everyone's panties would still be in an uproar. Its only because the church was involved that media attention was brought to it. It seems to me, from what I read (if its true) that they did indeed try to help the family. I think the church upholding its right to not condone homosexuality is fair. However, there's probably some discrimination loopholes in there since churches are also considered "businesses."

Yes, you are correct - the church is this case has the right to do whatever they want. However, that they did this IMO was a horrible thing. I mean this guy was a veteran who served his country. So, my issue is moral an ethical one than a legal one. As I have said many a time, all Christian churches I can think of are wildly hypocritical in their adherence to what they perceive as the Scripture. Remember, it was not that long ago that Chruches openly advocated "doctrine" that slavery was okay