The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Chit Chat
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 08-06-2007, 04:54 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

^^^

I do think that each decade has has its share of one hit wonders (Haircut 100 anyone ) -- but it seems each decade also had its share of huge talent that defined it - Duran Duran comes to mind in the 80's - though their talent is arguable - that they defined that decade is not - same with Madonna and likely two if not three decade for her (talent aside)
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world

Last edited by strandinthewind; 08-06-2007 at 04:57 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-06-2007, 05:27 PM
shackin'up's Avatar
shackin'up shackin'up is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: bemmel/lowlands
Posts: 6,912
Default

QOTSA

White Stripes

Eminem

Arctic Monkees

Franz Ferdinand

Maybe Coldplay.

Not my choices people, but definately the popicons of a decade.
__________________
..........................................................................................





Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-06-2007, 05:52 PM
trackaghost trackaghost is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,804
Default

I don't think just what's popular defines a decade's music.
Often it's the influence the act has and how it reflects popular culture.
Look at the Velvet Underground, they sold hardly anything but it's hard to think of the 60s and that whole defining Andy Warhol scene without them. In contrast Loverboy sold millions of records in the 80s but say their name to a youngster today and they would have no clue what you're talking about.

The most obvious one I can think of is The White Stripes. I think already their influence has been huge and despite the rawness of their music they've managed to transcend the alternative music scene and become a huge act. I think in the future at least two or three of their albums will be held up as examples of great albums this decade.
__________________
"I want to come back as a Yorkshire Terrier, owned by me." - Stevie Nicks

Last edited by trackaghost; 08-06-2007 at 05:55 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-06-2007, 07:00 PM
rbs3676's Avatar
rbs3676 rbs3676 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Garden. Running Through.
Posts: 1,325
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trackaghost View Post
I don't think just what's popular defines a decade's music.
Often it's the influence the act has and how it reflects popular culture.
Look at the Velvet Underground, they sold hardly anything but it's hard to think of the 60s and that whole defining Andy Warhol scene without them. In contrast Loverboy sold millions of records in the 80s but say their name to a youngster today and they would have no clue what you're talking about.

The most obvious one I can think of is The White Stripes. I think already their influence has been huge and despite the rawness of their music they've managed to transcend the alternative music scene and become a huge act. I think in the future at least two or three of their albums will be held up as examples of great albums this decade.
I totally agree with your post.

rbs
__________________
"Just like the sea, I rock a little..." ~ SLN
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-06-2007, 07:04 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trackaghost View Post
I don't think just what's popular defines a decade's music . . . .
I disagree in the sense that Nirvana and the like pretty much crafted the 90's - Madonna and punk rock (Blondie, Clash, etc and from which New Wave sprung) pretty much defined the 80's - Led Z., The Eagles, The Mac, and the Bee Gees pretty much defined the 70's - The Beatle were the 60's along with Janis and crewe in the late 60's - Elvis and the girl groups in the 50's. Those are iconic. The Whitestripes, while good, are not iconic. That is what I am using as my definition of a defining sound, etc. - and they were and are still wildly popular.
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-06-2007, 07:13 PM
gldstwmn's Avatar
gldstwmn gldstwmn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Drowning in the sea of La Mer
Posts: 19,490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan8472 View Post
How about like, what albums from recent years can you see turning into classics one day?
Not too many. Some of the 90's music hasn't held up well at all. I'm going to have to go back through the CD's I've bought in the last five years or so. It would be easier to name singles that would become classics.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-06-2007, 07:14 PM
Sarah's Avatar
Sarah Sarah is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Hell's Half Acre
Posts: 2,826
Default

I see what you're saying strand, but I pretty much disagree with you about The White Stripes. I think they're as close to iconic as this decade can hope for. They have an amazing sound that is all their own... unless you've never heard The White Stripes, you know exactly who it is the moment the songs get started. Not just because of Jack's voice, but Meg's drum sound, Jack's guitar sounds, and the old-school raw originality they have.
__________________
Yup. I'm in hell.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-06-2007, 07:16 PM
gldstwmn's Avatar
gldstwmn gldstwmn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Drowning in the sea of La Mer
Posts: 19,490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HejiraNYC View Post
As much as I hate to admit it... I think the first Avril Lavigne album will be around for many years.
So will styrofoam.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-06-2007, 08:04 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah View Post
. . . unless you've never heard The White Stripes . . . .
That is my point - unlike those I listed, many have not. That does not take away from the WS - but I do not think they have defined the 00's. In many ways, Madonna has shaped much of it, though her star has faded from the prior two decades.

But, perhaps that is it - the 00's have no strict definition as we saw in the past four or five decades - actually since the 20's when you consider jazz (dixie land and the blues a la Holliday), the 30's big band, the 40's Andrew Sisters, 50's Elvis - - and so on.
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-06-2007, 08:27 PM
Macfanforever's Avatar
Macfanforever Macfanforever is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Wallyworld CT
Posts: 10,537
Default

Hahaha, I will apologize now, But this decade's music sucks.To much Rap,hip hop,teenybopper crap, American Idiot show artists music, will hard rock or heavy metal is noise to me.todays country is ok,but it has to much rock influence in it, but I can deal with it.Stevie should try that format,she will have some hits with it.I will stick to my old musty and mildew moldy oldies, old geezer classis country tunes and classic rock tunes.

P.S. Hum Thats why Stevie at the end of her CV concerts mentioning "try to save the dying music industry go to concerts listen to the radio, and buy cd's".
__________________
Skip R........

Stevie fan forever and ever amen.......
the Wildheart at Edge of Seventeen and the Gypsy.....

My sweet Buttons .I love you. RIP 2009 to 08/24/2016

Last edited by Macfanforever; 08-06-2007 at 08:33 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08-06-2007, 08:29 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfanforever View Post
. . . I will stick to my old musty and mildew moldy oldies, old geezer classis country tunes and classic rock tunes.
LMAO - I do Stairmaster everyday to Led. Z., the Motels, Duran Duran, Janis, Nirvana, and really nothing un FM related that was produced later than that
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-06-2007, 08:41 PM
Macfanforever's Avatar
Macfanforever Macfanforever is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Wallyworld CT
Posts: 10,537
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by strandinthewind View Post
LMAO - I do Stairmaster everyday to Led. Z., the Motels, Duran Duran, Janis, Nirvana, and really nothing un FM related that was produced later than that
Yea Led Zep ,The Motels, Duran Duran are in my collection.I think music died in the mid 1990's, anything before that era is good.
To much crap these days, Lazy producers +crappy writers+crappy artists=
Sh$t....
__________________
Skip R........

Stevie fan forever and ever amen.......
the Wildheart at Edge of Seventeen and the Gypsy.....

My sweet Buttons .I love you. RIP 2009 to 08/24/2016
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-06-2007, 08:51 PM
Sarah's Avatar
Sarah Sarah is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Hell's Half Acre
Posts: 2,826
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by strandinthewind View Post
That is my point - unlike those I listed, many have not. That does not take away from the WS - but I do not think they have defined the 00's. In many ways, Madonna has shaped much of it, though her star has faded from the prior two decades.
So are you saying, by excluding The White Stripes and then taking into account what you and I have said, that the people who don't listen get to decide what was definitive for that era? That makes no sense. There are people who have heard maybe 3 Jimi Hendrix songs and insist that he's the God of Guitar. There are people who have heard Stairway to Heaven only and know the hugeness of LZ. That's just because of the clarity of retrospect... I don't see why time wouldn't do the same for The White Stripes, considering today's dismal scene. They're one of the most visible (well, now) of all the groups trying to do their own thing, and it's actually GOOD.
__________________
Yup. I'm in hell.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-06-2007, 09:14 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

^

No, what I am saying is that to define an era, you must be huge. The White Stripes are not. This is not a comment on the worth of their music. I am just saying that it seems unlikely the WS will be mentioned in the say context as the people I mentioned. I agree they are talented though. I mean when you think of the 50's and 60's who do you think of? I, and I suggest most, think of the people I mentioned because they were not only talented, they formed a generation through their music. To my knowledge, the WS have not reached that level. In fact, no 00's person or group comes to mind other than Eminem, and I am not that big of a fan of his. But, I recognize his impact on this decade.
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-06-2007, 09:35 PM
Sarah's Avatar
Sarah Sarah is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Hell's Half Acre
Posts: 2,826
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by strandinthewind View Post
^

No, what I am saying is that to define an era, you must be huge. The White Stripes are not. This is not a comment on the worth of their music. I am just saying that it seems unlikely the WS will be mentioned in the say context as the people I mentioned. I agree they are talented though. I mean when you think of the 50's and 60's who do you think of? I, and I suggest most, think of the people I mentioned because they were not only talented, they formed a generation through their music. To my knowledge, the WS have not reached that level. In fact, no 00's person or group comes to mind other than Eminem, and I am not that big of a fan of his. But, I recognize his impact on this decade.
I think the difference here is that.. with the level of visibility stars have now.. there's not really anyone who is SUPER MEGA HUGE compared to everyone else now. It's not like it was then, with new sounds coming from every direction. When it's all said and done, I think the stand out groups will get the recognition they deserve, because the rest of the crap will fall by the wayside. I mean, to an extent, the 80s and 90s are just like this as well. The White Stripes already have 3 Grammy's, and sales on Icky Thump were their highest first week numbers yet. I wouldn't write them off or even begin to say that they're in any way underground.
__________________
Yup. I'm in hell.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Christine McVie - Christine Mcvie [New CD] picture

Christine McVie - Christine Mcvie [New CD]

$17.25



Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac on 7/19/78 in East Troy Wi Old Photo picture

Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac on 7/19/78 in East Troy Wi Old Photo

$6.96



Christine McVie - In The Meantime [New CD] picture

Christine McVie - In The Meantime [New CD]

$17.25



christine mcvie hand signed 1970s excellent  Fleetwood Mac ‎– Mystery To Me lp33 picture

christine mcvie hand signed 1970s excellent Fleetwood Mac ‎– Mystery To Me lp33

$284.29



British musician Christine McVie of the band Fleetwood Mac perform- Old Photo picture

British musician Christine McVie of the band Fleetwood Mac perform- Old Photo

$6.96




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved