Stevie sure brings out the crazies!

[Angel69]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Ohhhh, criminy.

And they put it up?

Yes. Which I thought was strange due to the history there.

[WildHeart69]

could someone PM me and fill me in on this Bill Gamelson guy... I have heard him mentioned a lot before, but I dont really know what he did or anything. Is he the guy that wears the bandanas to the concerts and trys to give gifts? I see him at almost every show I go to.

[DeeGeMe]

Doubtful--I don't think Stevie's security people let him get past the doors to get into the concerts.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

Doubtful--I don't think Stevie's security people let him get past the doors to get into the concerts.

True, but I doubt the people at the gates of these venues know what he looks like? Unfortunately..

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

Doubtful--I don't think Stevie's security people let him get past the doors to get into the concerts.

I doubt they let him near the stage but how could they possibly prevent him from getting into a concert venue? Unless she has a restraining order against the guy, he is allowed to come to her shows. No one knows if she really has a Protection Order or not, so........

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Kelly

I doubt they let him near the stage but how could they possibly prevent him from getting into a concert venue? Unless she has a restraining order against the guy, he is allowed to come to her shows. No one knows if she really has a Protection Order or not, so........

They can throw anyone got they want - ditto for refusing admission. A ticket is a revokable license, that is all. Of course, they'd have to catch him amongst the thousands entering.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by WildHeart69

could someone PM me and fill me in on this Bill Gamelson guy... I have heard him mentioned a lot before, but I dont really know what he did or anything. Is he the guy that wears the bandanas to the concerts and trys to give gifts? I see him at almost every show I go to.

you're not alone. as deep as I am in lots of areas and as long as I've been "around" I've yet to piece together what exactly the problem with this Bill dude is. other than a few questionable trade tactics, that is.

maybe we should have an "official - this is why BG is bad" thread.

[Musicman408]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Don't forget the people who quit jobs, pack their stuff and move to Phoenix JUST because Stevie has a house there.

Sounds like it's time to pack up and move to Malibu now.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

They can throw anyone got they want - ditto for refusing admission. A ticket is a revokable license, that is all. Of course, they'd have to catch him amongst the thousands entering.

I had people removed for hassling me in the green room. It only happened a few times but no one ever seemed to mess with the 6'4" 350 security guard that I would call if there was a problem.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I had people removed for hassling me in the green room. It only happened a few times but no one ever seemed to mess with the 6'4" 350 security guard that I would call if there was a problem.

Huh?


(Sorry, I'm a born skeptic. I'm not so sure I believe in Astrology either. I'm a Capricorn by the way - supposedly Capricorns are born skeptics. THAT outta send 'ya into a paradoxical loop for a few minutes! )

By the way, what happens when the "psycho fans" start hiring 6'5" 400-pound security guards of their own?

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

you're not alone. as deep as I am in lots of areas and as long as I've been "around" I've yet to piece together what exactly the problem with this Bill dude is. other than a few questionable trade tactics, that is.

maybe we should have an "official - this is why BG is bad" thread.

k so, not to be grim but I can try to answer this. I don't know what's actually true, and what's not true, but here's a summary of some of the things people have claimed, as well as some things I've seen personally myself.

1.) Chris Nicks once described him as a "Dutch-boy Danny Bonaducci (sic)" who follows Stevie from city to city
throughout the tours trying to get to meet Stevie after every show." He also has supposedly once said to him flat--out, "Stay away from my sister!" The general idea is that it was said in a way that's pretty hard to misinterpret how he feels about it.

2.) When Mr. Nicks died, he posted in a google discussion group that "JESS NICKS IS BURNING IN HELL! ! ! ! !
I hope there's lots of ice there! This was posted on New Year's eve - that night, when "everyone else" was celebrating and having fun with friends and family - or at least with casual acquaintances. He's something like 43 or 45 years old.

3.) Before the current tour began, he threatened (online) to bring a gun to one of the concerts - front row - and shoot himself right in front of Stevie. "Taking out as many people as he can" at the same time.

4.) One thing that REALLY bothered me personally is that he once created a "religious" website that used a drawing of Stevie as an "Angel" in order to try to solicit money. Think about what he really did - It seems to me that Stevie has made quite clear that she doesn't want to endorse any one specific religion. Her Image also has a dollar value to it - a significant one. He's 45 or so and he is NOT stupid. This isn't a case of not knowing better, he just didn't care; and he COMPLETELY disregarded the feelings and personal philosophy of someone he supposedly "loves." In order to raise money.

5.) His behavior has changed over time. He initially, I believe, started acting as if he "loves" Stevie and her music. Then he found out that she has (allegedly) done this that and the other thing. Especially that other thing - yeah. And he fairly quickly, it seems, became extremely judgmental of her and angry towards her. Ranting about how she's "going to hell" etc. These issues, while he's free to have opinions on them and maybe even to express them, deal with private things which are none of his business. For him to FOCUS on them and yes OBSESS over them, at his age, is very troubling.

6.) People have said he's really just an "attention whore." Well, granted he has other interests such as politics, and there's apparently been trouble in those discussion groups as well. But Stevie is the only celebrity he focuses on. He has indicated very clearly that his unrequited feelings towards Stevie have turned from "love" to wanting to "Save" her to anger and hate. That's a time to sit up and take notice.

7.) Granted he seems to have sort of "deflected" most of this anger towards fans of Stevie on the Internet. And he loses interest for long periods of time. But he "always comes back," and it's always Stevie he's focusing on, not any other celebrity. Stevie is perceived as being "inaccessible" and that seems to only stoke the fires for him. He's been asked to stop repeatedly and yet he doesn't; or he'll stop for awhile (maybe until "the heat's off) and then starts again.

8.) He once came into the Nicksfix chat room and started talking with another person there about "how to take out Stevie's security guards" in order to get to Stevie. He's not small and he gives the impression that he's physically strong. Granted he would have been in for one HELL of a surprise, it still seems worthy of some notice.

9.) Even when he's repeatedly asked to stop by people in the fan community - and, I believe, also asked to stop by "Stevie's People," he continues. In other words, "You MUST stop this; you're scaring Stevie and making her EXTREMELY uncomfortable" has no long-term effect on his behavior. I don't know that for an absolute, 100% certifiable fact - but he sure as hell gives that impression.

10.)

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Huh?


(Sorry, I'm a born skeptic. I'm not so sure I believe in Astrology either. I'm a Capricorn by the way - supposedly Capricorns are born skeptics. THAT outta send 'ya into a paradoxical loop for a few minutes! )

By the way, what happens when the "psycho fans" start hiring 6'5" 400-pound security guards of their own?

Hey Ghosty.. I didn't realize you were a Cappy too! I knew there were several reasons why I liked you! LOL

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

Hey Ghosty.. I didn't realize you were a Cappy too! I knew there were several reasons why I liked you! LOL

Uhmm, THANKS!

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by Angel69

He just attended her Phoenix show and submitted a review to the Nicks Fix.

Now thats scary. Can they put this Bill guy away. for Stevie"s sake.
How about that guy in Denver .Colorado, what happened to him.

[Macfanforever]

I forget what state this happened in. some wacko guy hung himself with his cars jumper cables in the venues parkinglot after the concert. I forgot the details on this case.was it about his girl friend or Stevie.