~Herbert Worthington Items Now on Ebay~

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

I just tried to read my PMs and got this message:

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What does this mean?
If you sent me a PM, I can't answer yet, LOL...

I sent you a PM and got the same message so I don't know if you got it!

If you haven't already done so, I'll post this in the Ledge forum.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by jannieC

I sent you a PM and got the same message so I don't know if you got it!

If you haven't already done so, I'll post this in the Ledge forum.

the ledge and it's pm system has been fishy for 2 days. I feel a crash coming on

[[email protected]]

Originally Posted by jannieC

I sent you a PM and got the same message so I don't know if you got it!

If you haven't already done so, I'll post this in the Ledge forum.

No, I haven't gotten any PMs today, just got that "error" message, please eMail me:
[email protected]
thank you!

[[email protected]]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

the ledge and it's pm system has been fishy for 2 days. I feel a crash coming on

Oh no!
I haven't been able to add a sig, either, I sure hope it does not crash.
Positive Karma to the Ledge!

[moonbeam]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Hello, "Moonbeam",
Please arrange your facts correctly.
I have never sold under any other user than my current one on eBay, the USER ID has been StevieNicksTreasures, then since I was selling other items than just Stevie, was changed to MyTimelessTreasures, and now it is EnchantedMirror to coincide with my store, at EnchantedMirror.com...BUT, these were all the SAME USER, just changed the titles (there is an option to do that on eBay, so they don't frown upon it)
It is perfectly ok to change your user name on eBay, they allow that, and many people do that, as their companies change/grow. You will see that I have been selling on eBay, always as MYSELF, since 1999. To date, I have 3462 Positive feedbacks, and 10 Negative, since 1999. I think that proves that you are wrong about me "ripping people off."
Secondly, I welcome anyone to contact Herbie, and ask him directly if I am his friend, and yes, working with him, do you think he would allow me to put his tee shirts in my store, if I were not? His official website is:
http://www.hwworthington.com/
and you can contact him thru said site.
As for his new eBay listings, I helped him with that, and that is HIS user ID, not mine, and the reason he purchased a fairy decal from me, is he needed 5 feedbacks to start selling multiple items, and so he asked if he could purchase something small from me to get started listing right away. Again, no problem with that.
I use ONLY Herbie's images in my custom jewelry and unique items, with his full permission. And selling tshirts from my car? My dear, you are QUITE misinformed on so many topics, as this NEVER happened ... I don't know why my working with Herbie has upset you so, but it is, indeed true, and I recommend that anyone who has ANY questions about this, please DO contact Herbie, yourself, and ask him. Moonbeam, I am not sure who you are, but it sounds like you are one of the 7W gang who I exposed for something, and this is your way of attempting to discredit me.
As far as taking three months for custom made capes, shawls, etc. from my store, YES, it does take a long time to create the items, as all of my fabrics and fringe are imported and each item is custom made per order, this is clearly stated in my storefront, so no one will be disappointed. As far as my "background in business", I have run my own successful company, the Enchanted Mirror, since 1999, so I do know a bit about "business". And yes, indeed, I still do Stevie Nicks Tribute shows, what fun that is!
By the way, my name is Barbara McLuin, and Barbara Rose was a nickname, but my name is, and always has been, McLuin. So you didn't even have that part right. Please stop attempting to discredit me with lies, due to your own inner issues.
I do not, nor does anyone else here, have to "prove" anything to you. Oh, yes, and you are...who?? Didn't catch your real name....
And I won't hold my breath for your "public announcement" that you are wrong. Sounds like you have held a grudge against me for many years,
this is not surprising, since I do the tribute shows, and am lucky enough to run a lovely "Stevie related" business, I do have the occasional haters just for that.
The fact that you post that I would publicly associate myself with someone as famous and professional as Herbert Worthington, without actually BEING associated with him,
well, THAT is just beyond absurd...and sounds like "sour grapes" to me.
All the best~
Barbara

I'm not at all upset. I have no sour grapes and I have not personally been burned by you. I didn't say that I did. But I know a lot of people who HAVE been. I was on the Enchanted email list when a lot of stuff with you was going on, several times. I don't know if any of those people lurk or post here on The Ledge or not. But I do know that you DID have a LOT of negatives on Ebay and you DID have a LOT of people looking for you on the net because they were ripped off. And you DID have other Ebay user names, because I personally saw that you had a LOT more negatives than 10 at one time! You had so many at one time that you made your feedback private and not viewable by bidders.

I don't have a grudge against you - I just don't want any more people getting ripped off by you. Do you not remember any of the stuff that went on with the Enchanted email list? That's pretty convenient.

And how is it absurd that you might associate yourself with someone? If you will rip people off on the net, you will associate yourself with someone!

I could be wrong about your association with "Herbie" - and if I'm wrong, then I apologize. But I'm NOT wrong about you ripping people off and sending inkjet photos when you promised high-quality prints, as well as selling garbage to people - they thought they were getting great stuff and they got ripped off. I personally DO know those people. If some of them lurk here or post here (I lurk only occasionally myself) then they will probably post their stories.

I made my point, and gave fair warning to those who might be taken advantage of... and I will not be posting any more on this subject.

[moonbeam]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Hello, "Moonbeam",
Please arrange your facts correctly.
I have never sold under any other user than my current one on eBay, the USER ID has been StevieNicksTreasures, then since I was selling other items than just Stevie, was changed to MyTimelessTreasures, and now it is EnchantedMirror to coincide with my store, at EnchantedMirror.com...BUT, these were all the SAME USER, just changed the titles (there is an option to do that on eBay, so they don't frown upon it)
It is perfectly ok to change your user name on eBay, they allow that, and many people do that, as their companies change/grow. You will see that I have been selling on eBay, always as MYSELF, since 1999. To date, I have 3462 Positive feedbacks, and 10 Negative, since 1999. I think that proves that you are wrong about me "ripping people off."
Secondly, I welcome anyone to contact Herbie, and ask him directly if I am his friend, and yes, working with him, do you think he would allow me to put his tee shirts in my store, if I were not? His official website is:
http://www.hwworthington.com/
and you can contact him thru said site.
As for his new eBay listings, I helped him with that, and that is HIS user ID, not mine, and the reason he purchased a fairy decal from me, is he needed 5 feedbacks to start selling multiple items, and so he asked if he could purchase something small from me to get started listing right away. Again, no problem with that.
I use ONLY Herbie's images in my custom jewelry and unique items, with his full permission. And selling tshirts from my car? My dear, you are QUITE misinformed on so many topics, as this NEVER happened ... I don't know why my working with Herbie has upset you so, but it is, indeed true, and I recommend that anyone who has ANY questions about this, please DO contact Herbie, yourself, and ask him. Moonbeam, I am not sure who you are, but it sounds like you are one of the 7W gang who I exposed for something, and this is your way of attempting to discredit me.
As far as taking three months for custom made capes, shawls, etc. from my store, YES, it does take a long time to create the items, as all of my fabrics and fringe are imported and each item is custom made per order, this is clearly stated in my storefront, so no one will be disappointed. As far as my "background in business", I have run my own successful company, the Enchanted Mirror, since 1999, so I do know a bit about "business". And yes, indeed, I still do Stevie Nicks Tribute shows, what fun that is!
By the way, my name is Barbara McLuin, and Barbara Rose was a nickname, but my name is, and always has been, McLuin. So you didn't even have that part right. Please stop attempting to discredit me with lies, due to your own inner issues.
I do not, nor does anyone else here, have to "prove" anything to you. Oh, yes, and you are...who?? Didn't catch your real name....
And I won't hold my breath for your "public announcement" that you are wrong. Sounds like you have held a grudge against me for many years,
this is not surprising, since I do the tribute shows, and am lucky enough to run a lovely "Stevie related" business, I do have the occasional haters just for that.
The fact that you post that I would publicly associate myself with someone as famous and professional as Herbert Worthington, without actually BEING associated with him,
well, THAT is just beyond absurd...and sounds like "sour grapes" to me.
All the best~
Barbara

I'm not at all upset. I have no sour grapes and I have not personally been burned by you. I didn't say that I did. But I know a lot of people who HAVE been. I was on the Enchanted email list when a lot of stuff with you was going on, several times. I don't know if any of those people lurk or post here on The Ledge or not. But I do know that you DID have a LOT of negatives on Ebay and you DID have a LOT of people looking for you on the net because they were ripped off. And you DID have other Ebay user names, because I personally saw that you had a LOT more negatives than 10 at one time! You had so many at one time that you made your feedback private and not viewable by bidders.

I don't have a grudge against you - I just don't want any more people getting ripped off by you. Do you not remember any of the stuff that went on with the Enchanted email list? That's pretty convenient.

And how is it absurd that you might associate yourself with someone? If you will rip people off on the net, you will associate yourself with someone!

I could be wrong about your association with "Herbie" - and if I'm wrong, then I apologize. But I'm NOT wrong about you ripping people off and sending inkjet photos when you promised high-quality prints, as well as selling garbage to people - they thought they were getting great stuff and they got ripped off. I personally DO know those people. If some of them lurk here or post here (I lurk only occasionally myself) then they will probably post their stories.

I made my point, and gave fair warning to those who might be taken advantage of... and I will not be posting any more on this subject.

[[email protected]]

Greetings, "Moonbeam",
You are more than welcome to check out my feedback, HERE
It is physically IMPOSSIBLE for me to have had "more" than
10 negative feedbacks at one time, and only 10 now, since that is the same
exact account I have ALWAYS used?
Perhaps you can enlighten me on this mystery user name(s) with all the
negatives? I would like to see this! Please do!
Since you, yourself, have "seen" these other user names, and seem to post like you know all about me, and my previous job occupations,
please feel free to list ALL of these user names right here, so I may see who you have thought was me, as I have always sold under the SAME account, with the three user IDs (same account, tho) as posted earlier for you.
Enchanted mailing list? I believe I was on that in the earlier 1990s, and I did not sell items then. Any photos I sold on eBay were from trades or doubles I had in my collection, and they were described as such.
What is this "garbage" these people got? I am afraid you will need to be more specific, as I have NO idea what you are talking about. Everyone who has purchased from me (over 2,000 people on eBay, + almost 1,000 more from my private Enchanted Mirror store) have been quite pleased with their purchase and package.
I think the fact that you "have no sour grapes", and "have not personally been burned" says it all. There are no facts presented, because there are no "rip offs" that I have done. If anyone wishes to come forward and had not previously told me they were unhappy with a purchase they made, either from my store, or from my eBay sales, please feel free to PM me and let me know what you purchased, the date, and I will either refund your payment or offer you a exchange for the full amount of your purchase (with return of the original item purchased). I run a legitimate, fun business, and my customers really do enjoy shopping with me, and I hate to see false claims being made by someone who really either is seriously mislead, or flat out lying.
MoonBeam, I welcome those user names, please. Surely, if you keep records on my past "hostess" job, you have them all duly noted, as well?
Many thanks,
Barbara

Originally Posted by moonbeam

I'm not at all upset. I have no sour grapes and I have not personally been burned by you. I didn't say that I did. But I know a lot of people who HAVE been. I was on the Enchanted email list when a lot of stuff with you was going on, several times. I don't know if any of those people lurk or post here on The Ledge or not. But I do know that you DID have a LOT of negatives on Ebay and you DID have a LOT of people looking for you on the net because they were ripped off. And you DID have other Ebay user names, because I personally saw that you had a LOT more negatives than 10 at one time! You had so many at one time that you made your feedback private and not viewable by bidders.

I don't have a grudge against you - I just don't want any more people getting ripped off by you. Do you not remember any of the stuff that went on with the Enchanted email list? That's pretty convenient.

And how is it absurd that you might associate yourself with someone? If you will rip people off on the net, you will associate yourself with someone!

I could be wrong about your association with "Herbie" - and if I'm wrong, then I apologize. But I'm NOT wrong about you ripping people off and sending inkjet photos when you promised high-quality prints, as well as selling garbage to people - they thought they were getting great stuff and they got ripped off. I personally DO know those people. If some of them lurk here or post here (I lurk only occasionally myself) then they will probably post their stories.

I made my point, and gave fair warning to those who might be taken advantage of... and I will not be posting any more on this subject.

[KristinG]

Originally Posted by moonbeam

I'm pretty sure that BarbJRose is not working with Herbert Worthington. This is the same person that has ripped off a LOT of people on the internet over the past 8-9 years. I have been online in the Stevie fan base for about 10 years and I can remember a LOT of issues going on with this person. She goes by Barbara Rose and Barbara McLewen. The last I knew, she was a restaurant hostess and a Stevie impersonator/performer from Kentucky - why would Herbert Worthington work with her as opposed to someone in the entertainment or promotion business, or at least someone with a background in business?

If I'm wrong, though, and someone can PROVE to me that she IS working with him, I will publicly acknowledge such!

I have heard rumors that she has used a lot of Herbert's images without his permission and has ripped HIM off.

One of the other things was that there was a lot of drama with her selling bootleg Stevie t-shirts from her car at Enchanted and/or TISL concerts. In addition, she got a LOT of bad ratings on Ebay under a different user name a few years back because people were not getting the items they purchased OR they were getting garbage. One thing that sticks in my mind is that she was selling photos that were sold as being high quality, and they were arriving as bad quality, inkjet-type prints.

If you look at her website and the beautyandtheebeast user name, she has given him (or her own user name?) feedback, under the name of enchantedmirror, which is the name of her website. Why would she need to buy from herself? Or from him? I somehow doubt that Herbert Worthington purchased a Purple Dragon Window Cling from her! And on her website, she is asking patience from people who ordered things 3 months ago? No one should have to wait 3 months!

Before you purchase something from her, do your homework. Contact Herbert Worthington's camp before you do that - and be sure it's the real Herbert Worthington camp you are contacting. Also, use PayPal if you purchase something, so you will have their money-back guarantee.

I know I got a lovely email from Herbert Worthington and he is in fact working with Barbara...

[KristinG]

BTW, I think this post has less to do with "warning" potential buyers than blatantly trying (unsuccesfully) to ruin your good name and business standing. I also think it has everything to do with the drama of the last month.

I wouldn't worry about it. Hopefully people will back off and not bring their hostility and lame revenge tactics to The Ledge...

[[email protected]]

Originally Posted by KristinG

BTW, I think this post has less to do with "warning" potential buyers than blatantly trying (unsuccesfully) to ruin your good name and business standing. I also think it has everything to do with the drama of the last month.

I wouldn't worry about it. Hopefully people will back off and not bring their hostility and lame revenge tactics to The Ledge...

Thank you, Kristin.
I stand behind my business, and my items. I am happy to refund a customer who would be unhappy with their purchase if it was by a misrepresentation of the item in the description. Funny, in 8 years, not ONE person has ever requested a refund for that reason!
I make myself available by eMail or phone for questions, or problems, to all of my customers, and answer right away.
That is why my business is still there.
I am sorry that "Moonbeam" felt the need to make up stories, but obviously has no proof of the lies.
I came back here and made a statement about being wrong to leave because I thought some people here were snappy, and going to the 7W board because everyone seemed "nice"...I asked to be accepted back as what I am, a Fan of Stevie, and friend to a lot of you, as well *(I hope).
If someone doesn't like me personally, because I sell Stevie style clothing, or sell on eBay, or am friends with Herbie, or live in KY, or do tribute shows, well, that is that, and I hope they can just live with the fact that I am here,
and I plan to share stuff with the members here, and have FUN !!!
I don't want to have this board turn Negative like the other one, after
the bannings...so, I have said my piece, "Moonbeam" has said hers/his and I hope we can post about enjoyable topics!!!~~~

xoxo Barbara

[Glittermoondust]

Yeah! I'm glad to see those shirts are going to be offered again... I missed them the first time he listed them on ebay and have been waiting for them to be listed again

[[email protected]]

Originally Posted by Glittermoondust

Yeah! I'm glad to see those shirts are going to be offered again... I missed them the first time he listed them on ebay and have been waiting for them to be listed again

Yeah!

They are so pretty.
And only $29.99. You can either buy them now from my store,
or I believe Herbie will be also putting them in his eBay listings, along with the calendars.
We have plenty of tees, LOL.
I need to get them all measured, so you can be sure to get the correct size.

Barbara

[Glittermoondust]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Yeah!

They are so pretty.
And only $29.99. You can either buy them now from my store,
or I believe Herbie will be also putting them in his eBay listings, along with the calendars.
We have plenty of tees, LOL.
I need to get them all measured, so you can be sure to get the correct size.

Barbara

Okay cool thanks! Gotta figure the funds.......

Originally Posted by KristinG

BTW, I think this post has less to do with "warning" potential buyers than blatantly trying (unsuccesfully) to ruin your good name and business standing. I also think it has everything to do with the drama of the last month.

I wouldn't worry about it. Hopefully people will back off and not bring their hostility and lame revenge tactics to The Ledge...

Amen Sister..I agree with Kristin..I think it is very childish behaviour to try unsuccesfully to bash someone..If "moonbeam" has a problem with Barb..she should of emailed her or called her ..It's pretty obvious to me and to anyone with half a brain that this person crawled out of the woodwork at this time! Get a life.I myself have a hunch who this "moonbeam " really is..but will keep it to myself for now."Pity" that some have to stoop so low for attention..

I have had many dealings with Barb myself through Ebay and through her store and just want to say ,have always been thrilled with what I received.Just wish I could order so much more from her.!! I wear my moon everyday with pride ..and intend to order more as soon as funds are available..Keep up the Great work Barb..your the best as far as I can see..and believe me I have looked many a site and your creatations shine way above the rest..

[realcowgirl]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

I run a legitimate, fun business, and my customers really do enjoy shopping with me, and I hate to see false claims being made by someone who really either is seriously mislead, or flat out lying.

I have to jump in and agree on this. I've purchased several items from Barb, on several different occasions. They've always arrived promptly, well packaged, and usually with a cute little 'bonus'. I've received several photos - not inkjet - but in fact, nice glossy prints. So, while I can't speak for others, I can speak for myself. I've had nothing but positive experiences and would certainly shop with Barb again (now, if only I had one of those unlimited bottomless pocketbooks . . . . )