Just Skimmed Through STORMS

[carol7lynn]

As usual Kelly, you hit the nail on the head. Kudos.

There are always people who just don't "get it." Frankly, this thread has gone way far a field. The point is, Carol Ann Harris was never a member of the band and is a truly immoral person of questionable character for spitefully betraying the trust of the Mac-members et al at this late date. Her observations are, therefore, not worth the paper that they are printed on. If anyone wants to buy the book, fine, but I for one would not pay one red cent for this trash. Once again,the woman is a PIG.

CarolC

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by Kelly

OT..but why is it necessary to bring up Stevie's alledged abortions in a discussion about CA? One or two people slam Carol, so slamming Stevie is the response? Apples and oranges.

No one here is slamming Stevie, she did what she had to do.
carol7lynn basically claimed people who have unwanted pregnancies are immoral, Stevie had several, I just find it odd that she judges CAH giving up her child for adoption but not Stevie for her unwanted pregnancies.

Originally Posted by carol7lynn

There are always people who just don't "get it." Frankly, this thread has gone way far a field. The point is, Carol Ann Harris was never a member of the band and is a truly immoral person of questionable character for spitefully betraying the trust of the Mac-members et al at this late date. Her observations are, therefore, not worth the paper that they are printed on. If anyone wants to buy the book, fine, but I for one would not pay one red cent for this trash. Once again,the woman is a PIG.

CarolC

I think it's you who just doesn't get it dear
Now are you ever going to answer my question about exactly why you're reading this book, or indeed the questions Carrie asked you?

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

I think it's you who just doesn't get it dear
Now are you ever going to answer my question about exactly why you're reading this book, or indeed the questions Carrie asked you?

she said several posts back that she was reading because she wanted to know whether or not stevie and lindsey are getting back together. y'know, stevie, who's always been too busy for a man, and lindsey, who's married with kids. that stevie and lindsey

i still find the idea that CAH = amoral therefore she cannot tell her story to be an odd argument. lindsey has done some amoral things himself and yet no one here is saying he shouldn't release his music or tell HIS story. clearly there is demand for this book

it's just a shame you're so self-righteous about this, carol. i think it's fantastic that you were so vigilant about not getting pregnant, but rather than spewing your judgmental bile about how there are no accidental pregnancies, maybe you should just feel blessed that you never had to make that choice.

[Sahara]

CAH has the right to tell her story, certainly, freedom of expression, absolutely, and we can't take that away from her. But having the right to do it doesn't mean that it's something she ought to do, or make it appropriate or fair (?) or any less of a disloyal act.

Just my €0.02!

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by Sahara

CAH has the right to tell her story, certainly, freedom of expression, absolutely, and we can't take that away from her. But having the right to do it doesn't mean that it's something she ought to do, or make it appropriate or fair (?) or any less of a disloyal act.

Just my €0.02!

well, maybe - but all those things are subjective. anyone here is entitled to think that she shouldn't have written the book but i can't figure out why someone who thinks that has bought it!

[Tango]

Originally Posted by Sahara

CAH has the right to tell her story, certainly, freedom of expression, absolutely, and we can't take that away from her. But having the right to do it doesn't mean that it's something she ought to do, or make it appropriate or fair (?) or any less of a disloyal act.

Just my €0.02!

I think you also make a fair point. Alls I can do is speculate, unless you want to take her at her word on the introduction, as I mentioned earlier, on page XV. Here's one guess. Maybe for her it's theraputic. Sure, to many fans Lindsey's songs, interviews, money made that visit their relationship were cloaked. But it wasn't to Carol Ann Harris, probably not to her family, her friends, those in the band, those associates that she's had. Maybe she felt humiliated. And as she said, she wants to set the record straight. Again, you can go back into the circular argument of "why now." If she intended to put this book out, should she have done it when Fleetwood Mac was at it's most famous state? The end of Tango, during Mirage? Should she wait until the children are grown? IF one can believe the book was part of her own therapy, a part of her own healing, it probably doens't matter when she puts it out. It's out. She doesn't have to be loyal to her abuser. That's part of the healing, I think.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Tango

I think you also make a fair point. Alls I can do is speculate, unless you want to take her at her word on the introduction, as I mentioned earlier, on page XV. Here's one guess. Maybe for her it's theraputic. Sure, to many fans Lindsey's songs, interviews, money made that visit their relationship were cloaked. But it wasn't to Carol Ann Harris, probably not to her family, her friends, those in the band, those associates that she's had. Maybe she felt humiliated. And as she said, she wants to set the record straight. Again, you can go back into the circular argument of "why now." If she intended to put this book out, should she have done it when Fleetwood Mac was at it's most famous state? The end of Tango, during Mirage? Should she wait until the children are grown? IF one can believe the book was part of her own therapy, a part of her own healing, it probably doens't matter when she puts it out. It's out. She doesn't have to be loyal to her abuser. That's part of the healing, I think.

I don't even think you have to make an arguement for "why now".. She has the "rights" to her own lifeand she should be able to tell the story any time she wants... Should she feel guilty about it? NO!!!! It's her life... if you don't want to read it... don't buy it...

[SpyNote]

My only disappointment is that the book ended abruptly with the breakup. It would have been nice to have a few pages devoted to closure on the whole Mac experience...things she learned about herself (e.g. her astonishing personal resilience and staunch loyalty to Linds), people she grew to love and still associates with today (e.g. where she stands w/ Stevie now since she talked so much about admiring her and wanting to be her friend), her reflections on each of the five Mac members (she had soooo many personal conversations with them). Granted, the story was mainly about her and Linds, but it would made for a more well-rounded story had she truly come full circle, maybe she's not there yet. After all, even with her pitfalls w/ Linds, she did experience the ride of a lifetime.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by carrie721

she said several posts back that she was reading because she wanted to know whether or not stevie and lindsey are getting back together. y'know, stevie, who's always been too busy for a man, and lindsey, who's married with kids. that stevie and lindsey

What's hilarious about that is she has just written this in another thread:

Originally Posted by carol7lynn

Why anyone would believe a spurned ex is beyond me; especially someone of such questionable moral character.

And yet she bought her book expecting to find out if Stevie and Lindsey were getting back together

Originally Posted by Sahara

CAH has the right to tell her story, certainly, freedom of expression, absolutely, and we can't take that away from her. But having the right to do it doesn't mean that it's something she ought to do, or make it appropriate or fair (?) or any less of a disloyal act.

Just my €0.02!

Was Mick disloyal for writing his book?

It's amusing to me the amount of people who have slammed her for writing this book yet rushed out to buy it. Also people have claimed her book is full of lies, but there's no doubt the reason it took so long to hit the shelves is that the Mac's lawyers were all over it. I realise people don't want to think badly of their heroes, but this woman was there. Her view of events is bias but I don't see how or why she wouldn't be telling the truth.

[Michelle Daya]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

What's hilarious about that is she has just written this in another thread:



And yet she bought her book expecting to find out if Stevie and Lindsey were getting back together



Was Mick disloyal for writing his book?

It's amusing to me the amount of people who have slammed her for writing this book yet rushed out to buy it. Also people have claimed her book is full of lies, but there's no doubt the reason it took so long to hit the shelves is that the Mac's lawyers were all over it. I realise people don't want to think badly of their heroes, but this woman was there. Her view of events is bias but I don't see how or why she wouldn't be telling the truth.

& again, thank you. i find it also amusing after lurking for a year before posting that i came across horrible threads about lb's current wife. tell me, is daddy's ex's book going to hurt worse than reading those things about their mother? & some of the posters here who have slammed cah for this book were the very same posters slamming his wife & saying she's disgraceful, a pig, bitch, etc., for putting it out there. pot. kettle.

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Was Mick disloyal for writing his book?

I personally think so, yes.
Again, he was there and has a right to write what he likes, but yes, still disloyal.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by Sahara

I personally think so, yes.
Again, he was there and has a right to write what he likes, but yes, still disloyal.

If everyone felt like that there would be no more autobiographies
And really, if you don't like it just don't read it. It's not really fair though to post that it's rubbish and full of lies, when you don't know it is.

Originally Posted by Michelle Daya

& again, thank you. i find it also amusing after lurking for a year before posting that i came across horrible threads about lb's current wife. tell me, is daddy's ex's book going to hurt worse than reading those things about their mother? & some of the posters here who have slammed cah for this book were the very same posters slamming his wife & saying she's disgraceful, a pig, bitch, etc., for putting it out there. pot. kettle.

All this has reminded me about the Kristin bashing too. There always seems to be hostility towards Lindsey's partners other than Stevie.

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

If everyone felt like that there would be no more autobiographies

True enough, I suppose.

And really, if you don't like it just don't read it. It's not really fair though to post that it's rubbish and full of lies, when you don't know it is.

I absolutely agree, don't read it if you're not interested in what it says and willing to give some credibility to it. Although I haven't said that it's rubbish and lies, and furthermore I haven't read either of these books, this is just my view on the impression I've been getting.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

If everyone felt like that there would be no more autobiographies
And really, if you don't like it just don't read it. It's not really fair though to post that it's rubbish and full of lies, when you don't know it is.

i'm really torn in mick writing the autobiography. I haven't read it, so i dont' know exactly what's in it, but I've heard enough about it. I think it was unethical to write it, even though I'll probably read about it but I dont think it was disloyal to the "band" or name that is fleetwood mac. Just to the people that he calls his friends. I would never write a book about the office I work at, and drag out all of my co-worker's dirty laundry. Especially since I'm still friends with them. idk, it's hard to wrap around it, since it's showbusiness and it's a completely different world. But if you bring it back down to reality, it is a bit unethical and disloyal.


granted, no one would want to read my book, so there's no point in discussing it

[Rapunzel]

Originally Posted by carrie721

she said several posts back that she was reading because she wanted to know whether or not stevie and lindsey are getting back together. y'know, stevie, who's always been too busy for a man, and lindsey, who's married with kids. that stevie and lindsey

You crack me up! I can't believe there are still people out there waiting for Stevie and Lindsey to get back together. It's been 30 years, get over it!

And wouldn't it be a bit amoral of Stevie to deprive three little children of their daddy?