PNC Arts Center, Holmdel, NJ pics

[danax6]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

ew. I don't like the dress with the tan boots.

That's it, I'm having you committed.

[danax6]

MacMan, you do realize that your Flash sig is totally ruining the rest of the thread, right? I can't even quote you.

Awesome pics! I hope I can get some good ones in Norfolk, VA!

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

I think the main issue is giving credit. Many fans are touchy about this. I've found if you ask or give credit, you're less likely to get vilified.

As for photographers making money off these pictures. It's always possible, but unlikely. Most photographers can't do much with low res images posted on the web. You need at least 300 dpi to get decent prints. And unless you're shooting high profile celebrities in Hollywood, you're not making tons of money in this profession. But even then, who cares?

The way I figure it is that if you are sharing your pictures on the internet, then you are actually GIVING them away. If somebody uses it for something else, so be it- it's no skin off anyone's back. It's not like you were officially authorized to take these pictures or that you were hired to take the pictures. And the photographer is no hapless victim- the pics were invariably snapped without Stevie's consent or authorization. Now, on the otherhand, if you were authorized to take her pictures, or you had paid Stevie for the rights to take her pictures and then to sell them for profit, that is another matter altogether...

Taking pictures is fun, and sharing them is even more fun. Share them, enjoy them, and don't get y'all's panties all in a bunch about them.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

The way I figure it is that if you are sharing your pictures on the internet, then you are actually GIVING them away. If somebody uses it for something else, so be it- it's no skin off anyone's back. It's not like you were officially authorized to take these pictures or that you were hired to take the pictures. And the photographer is no hapless victim- the pics were invariably snapped without Stevie's consent or authorization. Now, on the otherhand, if you were authorized to take her pictures, or you had paid Stevie for the rights to take her pictures and then to sell them for profit, that is another matter altogether...

Taking pictures is fun, and sharing them is even more fun. Share them, enjoy them, and don't get y'all's panties all in a bunch about them.

My feelings exactly.

Now, please post your Jones Beach shots so I can see these clothes, damn it.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by danax6

MacMan, you do realize that your Flash sig is totally ruining the rest of the thread, right? I can't even quote you.

Sorry It's gone!

[Gypsy]

Thank you all so much for your compliments on the pics, I really appreciate it! I hope to take clearer ones in the future

And a note:
I wish I had put a copyright notice on my pics, I don't feel comfortable just 'putting them out there', but I didn't have time to research how to put a watermark on. I am glad I could make people who didn't like watermarks happy, though.
All I ask is this: please ask permission before using, even if it's just to put on a bootleg CD insert. Because I have been violated before, and it was NOT fun.

True story:
I once had one of the pics I posted online ripped off by a major company, who proceeded to make hundreds of thousands of dollars off my little pic.
I posted that pic along with a dozen others. The one that got ripped off was the ONLY one that I hadn't copyrighted (of course!), because I didn't think it was that good.
If I had copyrighted it, I could have sued them for about six figures, and become a substantially wealthier woman. We did settle out of court, for a pittance, though.

But what the hey, it's the internet, anything can happen!
Hell, let me research how to put a watermark on, though...

[Janis_no1]

She seems really far away from the crowd

[Janis_no1]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Here are a couple video clips from last night.

Gold Dust Woman..."baby baby baby babyyyy"

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6236247DdCM9YG

Oh dear. Does anyone share my feeling that she seems really really bored and uninterested in this song. Her movements so lathargic and pushed.

[Janis_no1]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Here are a couple video clips from last night.


Sorcerer...with cute intro

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v623460Bd4gFAHM

Rhiannon...filmed mostly for hot boots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OacZpmQFtKE

She seems to be enjoying sorcerer which is nice!

shame when she wears boots she cant move much. although the boots look great they seem to limit her too

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

ew. I don't like the dress with the tan boots.

I don't either it's like mixing silver with gold. Black belt with brown shoes.


now with this dress?? hot

[GarboSpeaks!]

so as long as no one plops them on a Tshirt and makes money off of them, I don't care about sharing photos I take

Well good for you!

So when/if someone does will you then be on the other side of the fence?

Just all those that piss and moan..it's like are you that ungrateful for them being shared at all? I'd say 90% of those that DO share have had their pics taken from them and re-sold. Although I get what HNY says about not having the right from the get go...we (I think I speak for the general masses) DO enjoy taking pics and DO enjoy sharing them, but then seeing them sold on Ebay is a real pisser! When I have shared on the board (which I seldom do cause of abuse that's sure to follow and having to ask "lookers" PLEASE DO NOT TAKE TO SELL...I mean are we all 5 here? Should we have to put that disclaimer up?) I put the watermark on the bottom or side...not across. But that's my choice, and each person that takes a pic gets to make the choice to share, to watermark or not to watermark. I just emailed a girl @ 7W asking if I could right click her pics to print. She'd be none the wiser had I just done it, but I thought it nicer to ask. That's me. No better than anyone else, just thought the taker would appreciate someone asking first.

So take it or leave it....and those that jab others about putting watermarks on pics, leave em be or don't enjoy what's been shared. Those of you personally that opt NOT to add watermarks makes no matter. You've shared w/ the group, and I personally appreciate anyone that shares anything.

(OH, and GYPSY....special TY!!!!!)

[Musicman408]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

I don't either it's like mixing silver with gold. Black belt with brown shoes.


now with this dress?? hot

Man if Stevie came out in that Red thing, I would pee my pants more than likely. . It's hot.

[Glittermoondust]

Originally Posted by GarboSpeaks!

Well good for you!

So when/if someone does will you then be on the other side of the fence?

Just all those that piss and moan..it's like are you that ungrateful for them being shared at all? I'd say 90% of those that DO share have had their pics taken from them and re-sold. Although I get what HNY says about not having the right from the get go...we (I think I speak for the general masses) DO enjoy taking pics and DO enjoy sharing them, but then seeing them sold on Ebay is a real pisser! When I have shared on the board (which I seldom do cause of abuse that's sure to follow and having to ask "lookers" PLEASE DO NOT TAKE TO SELL...I mean are we all 5 here? Should we have to put that disclaimer up?) I put the watermark on the bottom or side...not across. But that's my choice, and each person that takes a pic gets to make the choice to share, to watermark or not to watermark. I just emailed a girl @ 7W asking if I could right click her pics to print. She'd be none the wiser had I just done it, but I thought it nicer to ask. That's me. No better than anyone else, just thought the taker would appreciate someone asking first.

So take it or leave it....and those that jab others about putting watermarks on pics, leave em be or don't enjoy what's been shared. Those of you personally that opt NOT to add watermarks makes no matter. You've shared w/ the group, and I personally appreciate anyone that shares anything.

(OH, and GYPSY....special TY!!!!!)

Amen sister!! I appreciate anything that anyone shares--watermarks or not. This is exactly why I didn't bother posting my current Detroit photos over here...... last time I posted photos (Gold Dust tour & Don tour) I got the snide remarks about how someone apparently thought my watermark was too big..... with a to go along with it... I didn't have to share but I did--and this time I didn't because it isn't worth the bother anymore just to get unappreciated remarks... I didn't HAVE to share but I did--I like taking photos and think it is fun--I don't like seeing people steal other peoples photos and sell them on ebay--sorry I just don't think that is cool. I know not everyone agrees with me and that is fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion...... I did post my Detroit photos on that "other" board if anyone is interested--and yes they have watermarks--so if you don't want to see them with the watermarks then please don't look!

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by GarboSpeaks!

Well good for you!

So when/if someone does will you then be on the other side of the fence?

Just all those that piss and moan..it's like are you that ungrateful for them being shared at all? I'd say 90% of those that DO share have had their pics taken from them and re-sold. Although I get what HNY says about not having the right from the get go...we (I think I speak for the general masses) DO enjoy taking pics and DO enjoy sharing them, but then seeing them sold on Ebay is a real pisser! When I have shared on the board (which I seldom do cause of abuse that's sure to follow and having to ask "lookers" PLEASE DO NOT TAKE TO SELL...I mean are we all 5 here? Should we have to put that disclaimer up?) I put the watermark on the bottom or side...not across. But that's my choice, and each person that takes a pic gets to make the choice to share, to watermark or not to watermark. I just emailed a girl @ 7W asking if I could right click her pics to print. She'd be none the wiser had I just done it, but I thought it nicer to ask. That's me. No better than anyone else, just thought the taker would appreciate someone asking first.

So take it or leave it....and those that jab others about putting watermarks on pics, leave em be or don't enjoy what's been shared. Those of you personally that opt NOT to add watermarks makes no matter. You've shared w/ the group, and I personally appreciate anyone that shares anything.

(OH, and GYPSY....special TY!!!!!)

Yea, ok.....you are right. I will just keep any of the video and photos I take from now on.....all to myself.


Half the fun for me is in sharing with other fans who will appreciate the videos and photos. No, I really wouldn't be on the other side of the fence if someone put one of my photos on a tshirt, because it already happened during the SYW tour. Obviously, why I mentioned the tshirt. .

Sharing photos you have bought from a professional photographer like Herbie is completely different, IMO, than your personal concert photos. I have no right to take Stevie's photo at the show anyway, so I do not see the need to copyright them. She obviously doesn't give a **** about enforcing the no camera policy, , but it is really irrevelevant to your argument.

Watermark your photos to death...I don't care, but I chose not to watermark an image of Stevie that I took at a show. I do not own the exclusive rights to Stevie's image.

I wonder how many bootleg dvds you own? Someone taped those boots and they are worth as much, if not more, than a concert photograph, to a hardcore fan. Did you ask permission of the taper or compensate him for watching their recording? I know he/she hasn't posted them on Veoh, for free download.
Perhaps he/she should put a copyright throughout the dvd and bitch away about how he "owns" them and how he has gotten screwed over because fans trade them all over the place for free?



Sharing video clips and photos of new boots has turned into a headache on the Ledge. How predictable.