At Ledgies' Urging, Paris Hilton Sent Back to Prison

[danax6]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

slut. y/n?

I've turned being a slut into an art form.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by danax6

I've turned being a slut into an art form.

I thought the new term was "vanessa"

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by danax6

I'm offended.

Hahaha

[mikeschmike]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

slut. y/n?

whore. y/y?

you bitch...just when i was about to include you in my will and everything!

[Mari]

I never thought I would say this, but with all the harshness I've seen directed at her the last few days, I actually feel a bit sorry for the girl now. Imagine the entire world, literally the entire world, hating you and making fun of you.

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by Mari

I never thought I would say this, but with all the harshness I've seen directed at her the last few days, I actually feel a bit sorry for the girl now. Imagine the entire world, literally the entire world, hating you and making fun of you.

This is true, Mari.

My mother and I were talking about this yesterday, as channel after channel called her "stupid", "useless", or "bratty". Among others. I'd want to go on some sort of homocidal rampage through every newsroom in the country if they called me "useless" on national tv. She's still a human being.

She's a human being that deserves to serve her sentence, even if it is way harsh (judge showing off his power much?) - but all the public **** talk is really gross. It's one thing for people to say it privately to each other.. it's another thing for the idiot box to brainwash the nation with it.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Sarah

. . . It's one thing for people to say it privately to each other.. it's another thing for the idiot box to brainwash the nation with it.

I tend to agree, but she lived by the sword of publicity.

Interestingly, I also think people trashing her tends to make them as shallow IMO. I mean the news sources were laughing yesterday at how they were devoting hours to La Hilton when there was real news going on. Think about that

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I mean the news sources were laughing yesterday at how they were devoting hours to La Hilton when there was real news going on. Think about that

So they should have started talking about something else. No integrity whatsoever. Mention it, crack your one completely unoriginal comment about how vapid and rich she is, and move the hell on. I saw 4 stories in a row on the same channel yesterday. The first story was about her going back to jail. The next was something about the crap that had all lead to it. The third was some sort of commentary about the whole thing, and the last was talking about how much more money she'll be able to make off the whole deal. At least 20 minutes of continuous coverage right there... not mentioning anything else.

[strandinthewind]

^^

Pathetic commentary on our society.

I will say this though - the real issue here is the maverick sheriff in LA county and his defiance of the judicial system - along with an out of control judge who IMO used this way harsh a sentence to set up his book deal/news legal spot/etc. IMO both the judge and the sheriff are using La Hilton's fame to their advantage and in the process eschewing any respect for the legal system they had.

Finally, I do feel sorry for La Hilton because other than violating her probation (which is a serious thing) she has done nothing else wrong here. Again, if the sheriff tells you to leave the jail, who would actually say "gosh, I think I'll stay here"

Somehow, the lyrics of "Freedom" "poor little fool" are ringing in my head.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I mean the news sources were laughing yesterday at how they were devoting hours to La Hilton when there was real news going on. Think about that

Sometimes I am glad I don't live in the USA. That would completely annoy me also. I think it's different for us because we're not exposed to this 24/7. I can still think she's an annoying twit without having been influenced by the media. My ignorance regarding the legal system helps a lot also. I realize this sounds incredibly prejudiced, but I find it hard to conjur up any sympathy for someone like Paris Hilton, who has not contributed one decent thing to society.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by danax6

. . . who has not contributed one decent thing to society.

Once again, she, alone, in responsible for employing hundreds of people when you consider her television show, perfume, and other products. So, like her or not, she contributes to society more than most.

As for having sympathy for her, that is not any issue I am talking about when I am discussing the legal power players using her as a pawn. My point there is that despite any feelings anyone has about her, their use of her is quite sickening. Yet, people loathe her so much that they cannot see past that and would rather our judicial system fail than see her treated like everyone else. To me, that is sickening because the law should be evenly applied and no one should gloat when it is not.

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by danax6

Sometimes I am glad I don't live in the USA. That would completely annoy me also. I think it's different for us because we're not exposed to this 24/7. I can still think she's an annoying twit without having been influenced by the media. My ignorance regarding the legal system helps a lot also. I realize this sounds incredibly prejudiced, but I find it hard to conjur up any sympathy for someone like Paris Hilton, who has not contributed one decent thing to society.

Well, the only things I can say to maybe shed some light on the system here (without getting all technical like strand) are a couple talking points.

1. a woman who shot her minister husband in the back with a shotgun while he slept did not get convicted of first degree murder.. voluntary manslaughter. she was sentenced yesterday to 3 years in prison, of which she only has to do 210 days. she will technically do less than that, as she'll serve most of that time in the mental ward getting help for the emotional, physical, and mental stress he put her through. before she blew him away with a 12 gauge. considering the extreme difference of their crimes, 210 days in jail for murder and 45 days for driving when you shouldn't be.. not enough difference there.


2. DUI and driving on a suspended license are usually less than 30 days here. Maybe it's because of my state. But a lot of people who get busted for DUI, driving while suspended, or driving while revoked don't really do time, they get probation - even after multiple offenses - and serve community service hours. 45 days hard time is pretty severe.

3. people busted for possession of marijuana stay in jail longer here than a lot of other offenses because of mandatory sentencing. what the hell is that about anyway? get busted with an ounce, serve 3 years. blow your husband away, serve 3 years theoretically but not really.

it's way wacky around here. the point isn't that she hasn't done anything good for society. the point is that there are people who do way worse in society and get away with it because over jail overcrowding or half-ass cops, while she's strung up for our watercooler chat enjoyment.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Once again, she, alone, in responsible for employing hundreds of people when you consider her television show, perfume, and other products. So, like her or not, she contributes to society more than most.

Sure, though I doubt that was done deliberately on her part. In fact, my guess would be that it was done for a lot more selfish (read: financial) reasons. But if you look at it that way, I guess she did contribute.

As for having sympathy for her, that is not any issue I am talking about when I am discussing the legal power players using her as a pawn. My point there is that despite any feelings anyone has about her, their use of her is quite sickening. Yet, people loathe her so much that they cannot see past that and would rather our judicial system fail than see her treated like everyone else. To me, that is sickening because the law should be evenly applied and no one should gloat when it is not.

And once again, I wouldn't know. If you say it's so, I'll believe you, and I agree that it's wrong, but I still won't lose any sleep over her having to spend a few nights in jail. For me it's easier to separate matters, because of my ignorance. You know? I totally get what you are saying, Jason. Really.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by Sarah

Well, the only things I can say to maybe shed some light on the system here (without getting all technical like strand) are a couple talking points.

1. a woman who shot her minister husband in the back with a shotgun while he slept did not get convicted of first degree murder.. voluntary manslaughter. she was sentenced yesterday to 3 years in prison, of which she only has to do 210 days. she will technically do less than that, as she'll serve most of that time in the mental ward getting help for the emotional, physical, and mental stress he put her through. before she blew him away with a 12 gauge. considering the extreme difference of their crimes, 210 days in jail for murder and 45 days for driving when you shouldn't be.. not enough difference there.

While I agree that sounds absurd, I do think this is maybe comparing apples to oranges? I realize that 45 days for a DUI is maybe too harsh, but in this woman's case, couldn't it also be that she can't be held accountable, so called 'guilty but insane', or (Jason, you're going to be proud) doli incapax?

3. people busted for possession of marijuana stay in jail longer here than a lot of other offenses because of mandatory sentencing. what the hell is that about anyway? get busted with an ounce, serve 3 years. blow your husband away, serve 3 years theoretically but not really.

Move to the Netherlands.

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by danax6

While I agree that sounds absurd, I do think this is maybe comparing apples to oranges? I realize that 45 days for a DUI is maybe too harsh, but in this woman's case, couldn't it also be that she can't be held accountable, so called 'guilty but insane', or (Jason, you're going to be proud) doli incapax?

She didn't enter a plea of insanity. The jury just felt bad for her, really.

Her reasonings for the murder were reasonings that you'd give for divorce.

The Netherlands. Hm. I dunno. Probably a bit too cold around there for me. I will enjoy your liberalism vicariously, though.