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Old 05-29-2007, 09:45 PM
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She must, but LB's non hits are much more interesting and fun because he doesn't tour. This was the first live appearance for many songs in his set and the others hadn't seen the stage in years. Of course he does the FM stuff, but the other songs he does make up for it. Stevie is gunna have to pull something amazing to beat the Holiday Road-Turn it On combo...
Maybe she did on the Enchanted tour with the acoustic set that lead into Sleeping Angel.
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Maybe she did on the Enchanted tour with the acoustic set that lead into Sleeping Angel.
Sleeping Angel alone wouldn't beat it...But it was pretty damn amazing, especially being there to see it. But ATGF, Garbo, Rose Garden were GOOD, but they just aren't my favorite songs. Still I enjoyed that set very much!
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:24 PM
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But, if people want the Mirage performance - it will never happen on any level and in any song, though R&R live vaguely approaches it.
Really?

I am completely unimpressed with R&R, having now seen it live three times. She spends the entire time stressing about keeping her top hat on and this time around she didn't even play the tamborine.

This song is a completely wasted opportunity for the encore.
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It's getting a little old about how much of you all are doubting Stevie, and it's getting to the point of where it seems that you are all hoping she never does anything new. I remember in about September of 2006, when we started hearing word that a new best of was in the works, nobody believed it, and everyone said she would never release another album again. But when the word became official, that shut everyone up pretty fast. Stevie is being vague about any new projects because she hasn't started anything yet and won't until late Fall at the earliest. We've heard from multiple sources that Stevie will begin working on a new album soon after the tour ends and she has a few months of respite. Nothing is in the works right now, so how can she talk about something that doesn't even exist yet? Let's just see what happens in the next few months, instead of going off on every article or publication that mentions Stevie will do something new soon as being a falsity!

As for SYW, no it didn't work because Stevie missed having Christine there, tensions were extremly high and she was given very little input by Lindsey. She would probably be willing to do a small "reunion" tour in the next few years, but she certainly doesn't want to invest another 32 months into the process of recording and touring if Christine won't be there, and i agree with that. They tried it once, it didn't work, so now they'll have to try something different.

I doubt anyone is hoping she doesn't record in the future. Some of us just hear different things in these interviews than you do. I have not heard multiple sources confirm Stevie is to begin working on a solo album, in the fall. That 'Off the Record' interview was the only place "fall" was mentioned, that I can think of off the top of my head, and Stevie did not say that. He said 'she 'should" begin work on a new studio album in the fall." Some dj speculating is not really a great source. (the only other time 'fall" was mentioned was by Stevie, saying she was going to take some time off in the fall) Stevie was not working on TISL in 1998 but she was certainly talking about her next album. She even had the title ready! Four years before it came out she had the title and was talking up the album and asking people to produce for her. I am not trying to argue or be negative, I honestly hope we get more recordings from her. The label is the one who puts out GH too. so of course we got one of those. I always knew that sooner or later they would get their way, and a GH would be released. However, she did not give them any new songs to use for it this time.

We all should wait and see what happens in the future but the board is here for us to speculate. I know personally, I would love to be able to say I was wrong about a new album. Sadly, I just do not think I will be.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:16 AM
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I think you are mistaking the drugged out performance of SOTM on the Mirage video with an acceptable live performance of it. Have you ever heard the piano demo? The vocals are remarkably similar in range to BC because La Nicks writes all of her songs essentially using the same few chords. So, if she can sing one, she essentially can sing the other.
She could still do sisters of the moon.your right. she could do a version simmilar to the tusk re-issue second disc vocals. in her current range, it could still be powerful and cool.

(ALTHOUGH there WOULD be the endless bitching about how its not the drug-crazed mirrage vid. version)

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Really?

I am completely unimpressed with R&R, having now seen it live three times. She spends the entire time stressing about keeping her top hat on and this time around she didn't even play the tamborine.

This song is a completely wasted opportunity for the encore.
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She must, but LB's non hits are much more interesting and fun because he doesn't tour. This was the first live appearance for many songs in his set and the others hadn't seen the stage in years. Of course he does the FM stuff, but the other songs he does make up for it. Stevie is gunna have to pull something amazing to beat the Holiday Road-Turn it On combo...
You nailed it right there. He hasn't toured since 1992 so of course his songs are much more interesting and fun. Stevie's been on the road forever and so people are bored with her setlist. I wonder how the reactions would've been if she hadn't toured all those years.
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Really?

I am completely unimpressed with R&R, having now seen it live three times. She spends the entire time stressing about keeping her top hat on and this time around she didn't even play the tamborine.

This song is a completely wasted opportunity for the encore.
I am not thrilled by the song, though I thought it was cool three years ago I am just saying she sings it in a high range for her and she belts it for the most part. So, if she can do that, then she can handle SOTM in a moderately forward manner.
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:29 AM
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You nailed it right there. He hasn't toured since 1992 so of course his songs are much more interesting and fun. Stevie's been on the road forever and so people are bored with her setlist. I wonder how the reactions would've been if she hadn't toured all those years.
I think they would think something like "OMG OTR, Enchanted, B&B, etc. were obscurities and it is way cool that she is playing them as opposed to the hits" And, to her credit, when she toured to support Enchanted, she played many obscure songs and for TISL, she played POTU, Sorcerer, FFG, Everyday, Too Far From Texas, and Bombay Sapphires -- to the exclusion of Landslide. So, other than this current tour, she rarely has just played the same old set list. I think it just seems that way because she has her core songs.
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The way I see it is that Stevie is right that Christine's absence on the SYW record was felt, and I would like to think that if she had been part of the record and tour maybe it would have worked better, but the band as a whole should be blamed for the lack of originality on their part. They talk up a new album ,but then the tour basicly rehashes Rumours and the whole Lindsey and Stevie Drama on stage. If they want to continue, then next time they tour whether it is for a new album or not they should leave the back up band at home and really delve into the catalogue to make the tour worthwhile. If I recall allot of the reviews of the SYW tour described FM as the "Fleetwood Mac orchestra" when talking about all the extra people on stage which is not something to get excited about.

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It was hinted at from the beginning that Stevie wasn't entirely thrilled with 'Say You Will.'
In an interview that was published just after the album was released, Lindsey mentioned that Stevie hadn't yet thanked him for the work he'd done on her songs. He added, "I think Stevie is seeing part of this record through some dark colors right now."

Right from the outset, Stevie said she missed Christine and that it felt odd to be in the studio with the rest of Fleetwood Mac, but without Chris. I think in Stevie's eyes, 'Say You Will' was a bit of an experiment -- "can we pull this off without Christine?" And I think, for Stevie at least, that the answer proved to be "no."

Personally, I love the album, but I do agree that the Mac's sound was missing it's "gelling agent" without Christine.
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Yeah, Stevie's unhappiness isn't new. She's been missing Christine from the beginning, while Lindsey has been making out in the back wit his 33.3% more space. Touring and recording for her is less fun without Chris. I personally LOVE Say You Will, both Lindsey's AND Stevie's. I do see the two solo albums thing, two great solo albums, or maybe a BuckinghamNicks album with an AWSEOME rythym section, well awseome bass playing at least, Mick's ususal signiture awseome drumming is really non existent on SYW, while John has some of his best bass playing ever.

As far as how Stevie feels about Lindsey's job on her songs. I love what he did to Thrown Down, but am not sure about the rest. She really did her two worst songs on tour consistently, dropping probably one of her 3 best in Destiny Rules. Stevie said in a few interviews that Illume was her favorite song. I kind of agree, and am hoping wishfully that it not being played was maybe because 9/11 was just 2 years ago at the time and if they toured again all the time removed might allow for them to do it. I'd LOVE if they did Illume. Now that's just my wishful thinking as to why it wasn't played.
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I have said time and time again - that La Nicks went back to FM at all after Bella Donna defies any explanation other than sure loyalty to the band. She surely did not need them. And, why should she go? By all accounts, they treated her with disrespect and poorly, treatment I suggest she did not get in her solo ventures. I suppose she needed them for the comeback in The Dance. But, she had her crystal vision back by then and I think she could have made a comeback on her own, though likely less of one than facilitated by The Dance. After all, SC and the Smashing Pumpkins, two huge names at the time, recorded her or her songs - and she had written some stellar things like Love Is, TISL, and Twisted, which showed a return to her talent. So, I think La Nicks thought the same for SYW as the others outside of The Dance, which was I'll do this because I truly love these people and let's see what happens. She, once again, certainly did not need to go back to FM.

In the end, I think she has found peace with the Mac and she truly believes that one day they might do something again. But, for now, she done and I think that is cool considering how much of herself she gave to a group that treated her like a lesser talent.

I think LB also is done with the Mac. I think he is happy knowing he will never achieve any comparatively successful commercial success. I think he is happier now with his own thing, which he has been doing for like two years now. So, kudos to him for finally biting the bullet and running from the cover of the machinery of the Mac to do his pwn thing. Tins of respect for him for that!

As for CM - I love her music and miss her. But, she made her choice and I am cool with that.
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I have said time and time again - that La Nicks went back to FM at all after Bella Donna defies any explanation other than sure loyalty to the band. She surely did not need them. And, why should she go? By all accounts, they treated her with disrespect and poorly, treatment I suggest she did not get in her solo ventures. I suppose she needed them for the comeback in The Dance. But, she had her crystal vision back by then and I think she could have made a comeback on her own, though likely less of one than facilitated by The Dance. After all, SC and the Smashing Pumpkins, two huge names at the time, recorded her or her songs - and she had written some stellar things like Love Is, TISL, and Twisted, which showed a return to her talent. So, I think La Nicks thought the same for SYW as the others outside of The Dance, which was I'll do this because I truly love these people and let's see what happens. She, once again, certainly did not need to go back to FM.

In the end, I think she has found peace with the Mac and she truly believes that one day they might do something again. But, for now, she done and I think that is cool considering how much of herself she gave to a group that treated her like a lesser talent.

I think LB also is done with the Mac. I think he is happy knowing he will never achieve any comparatively successful commercial success. I think he is happier now with his own thing, which he has been doing for like two years now. So, kudos to him for finally biting the bullet and running from the cover of the machinery of the Mac to do his pwn thing. Tins of respect for him for that!

As for CM - I love her music and miss her. But, she made her choice and I am cool with that.
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