**SPOILER** Opening Night of Crystal Visions Tour

[AliceLover]

Anyone here have a pic of this new dress I am hearing about?

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I have been one of the more vitriolic critics on here of her casual fan catering , jukebox oldies unchanging setlists of the last few years but I think I've found a new way to enjoy her shows and that is to no longer view them as rock concerts but as a cabaret type act like Judy Garland or Marlene Dietrich used to perform .Really her shows are no longer even a rock concert but if one can appreciate her as a touring legend the way people used to with these women it is easier to appreciate the show IMO.It works well for me as a middle aged gay man who knew people in the generation just before me that actually saw Judy or Marlene to imagine her shows that way now .I know everyone doesn't have that same frame of reference but when I think of having gone to the show as seeing a star reprise her career and looking beautiful and sounding great while she did it I found it possible to let go of alot of the expectations and resentments I had of still wanting her to behave as it was 1981 with and with the wildness and spontaneity she displayed then.

Wow! That's a absolutely astute perspective. It turned my head! Of all a sudden I want to be more forgiving, and think twice before I raise judgement.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Wow! That's a absolutely astute perspective. It turned my head! Of all a sudden I want to be more forgiving, and think twice before I raise judgement.

Hey thanks I'm glad someone got it! If you were to read some of my past postings you can see that it is almost an epiphany.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by Liza

Well I do understand where you are all coming from but from a fan of 30 years who lives in England would just love to have had the opportunity to hear these songs 4,5,6,10 or maybe even 1 or 2 in the last 10years!!

I can understand why she wouldn't do a long Europe tour but even only 5,6 days in London would be great. I'm sure most of her European fans would fly there.

Romy

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Hey thanks I'm glad someone got it! If you were to read some of my past postings you can see that it is almost an epiphany.

I get what you are saying...I just will not pay to see the same show over and over again.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

I get what you are saying...I just will not pay to see the same show over and over again.

Diod you see If Anyone Falls and How Still My Love performed before?

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Diod you see If Anyone Falls and How Still My Love performed before?

Thats what I am most looking foward too!! She didn't play Sorcerer or Fall From Grace last time she was here either, or even Rock and Roll. So technically she added 5 new songs to her set.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I have been one of the more vitriolic critics on here of her casual fan catering , jukebox oldies unchanging setlists of the last few years but I think I've found a new way to enjoy her shows and that is to no longer view them as rock concerts but as a cabaret type act like Judy Garland or Marlene Dietrich used to perform .Really her shows are no longer even a rock concert but if one can appreciate her as a touring legend the way people used to with these women it is easier to appreciate the show IMO.It works well for me as a middle aged gay man who knew people in the generation just before me that actually saw Judy or Marlene to imagine her shows that way now .I know everyone doesn't have that same frame of reference but when I think of having gone to the show as seeing a star reprise her career and looking beautiful and sounding great while she did it I found it possible to let go of alot of the expectations and resentments I had of still wanting her to behave as it was 1981 with and with the wildness and spontaneity she displayed then.

I get this...

And I could find myself in the same place if she would play appropriate venues for a cabaret act. Something more intimate.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Diod you see If Anyone Falls and How Still My Love performed before?

I did forget that she has only done these in Vegas so I guess there are two "new" songs in the CV set list.

I know this has been said and we can go round and round, but there is a list of about only 20 songs, at most, that Stevie seems willing to perform live anymore. Most of them are in every set and then she does mild shuffling like drop INTK for half a tour and then bring it back.

It simply baffles me that one of the most prolific songwriters in history would limit herself that way. She played nothing from 3 out of 6 of her solo albums. She wastes (my opinion) two of her precious 14 songs on covers while she has her own masterpieces shoved in some desk drawer. Why did we get just that one brief moment of magic during Enchanted Tour when she was so willing to perform a daring set list? What happened?

It makes no sense to me and ultimately has becoming greatly disappointing.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

I get what you are saying...I just will not pay to see the same show over and over again.

I know, the way ticket prices have skyrocketed I'm really not inspired enough to see the same show again. I have other priorities at this point in my life. Odd, I know!

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

I get this...

And I could find myself in the same place if she would play appropriate venues for a cabaret act. Something more intimate.

From what people are saying about ticket sales in some venues this may happen sooner than later and perhaps by neccesity rather than choice.

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

I did forget that she has only done these in Vegas so I guess there are two "new" songs in the CV set list.

I know this has been said and we can go round and round, but there is a list of about only 20 songs, at most, that Stevie seems willing to perform live anymore. Most of them are in every set and then she does mild shuffling like drop INTK for half a tour and then bring it back.

It simply baffles me that one of the most prolific songwriters in history would limit herself that way. She played nothing from 3 out of 6 of her solo albums. She wastes (my opinion) two of her precious 14 songs on covers while she has her own masterpieces shoved in some desk drawer. Why did we get just that one brief moment of magic during Enchanted Tour when she was so willing to perform a daring set list? What happened?

It makes no sense to me and ultimately has becoming greatly disappointing.

Well, she had a new musical director for one.....

[estranged4life]

But I am STILL seeing her on May 30th, unless my death occurs before then, nothing (Not even the setlist) will stop me from having some free time for once.

Brian j.

ps - I was somehow locked out of the Ledge since Thursday night - Thanks for the help in fixing the problem Marty - Cheers!!!

[GardenStateGirlie]

so she's opening with stand back? anyone else feel that this makes the rest of the show sort of anti-climactic...especially for the casual concert goer? i just feel like with only a few energy charged songs, it's strange to enter the stage with this one.

so it's a definite that she will not be performing with chris? lame.

[no_spoken_word]

As someone who hasn't seen Stevie live since the first Vegas show, what I'm really concerned with is, is she still wearing the black top hat for Rock & Roll???