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Old 05-14-2007, 09:55 AM
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Well you don't have a uterus, so you shouldn't.
wow. I didn't realize that was a prerequisite to having an opinion.

but, if what you say is true, at least that will surely minimize the amount of topics on which you can have an opinion and can therefore comment on, right? right. good.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:31 AM
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wow. I didn't realize that was a prerequisite to having an opinion.

but, if what you say is true, at least that will surely minimize the amount of topics on which you can have an opinion and can therefore comment on, right? right. good.
IMO, there's some merit to the viewpoint that in this case, it's not your place to make judgments if the matter doesn't involve/concern you.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:38 AM
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IMO, there's some merit to the viewpoint that in this case, it's not your place to make judgments if the matter doesn't involve/concern you.
I swear I feel like I'm speaking in ****ing Greek in this place these days. yet again, my initial post is misconstrued. I'm not saying by you, but by the person who began this portion of the debate. and my response is not directly in response to you just my thoughts concerning it all.

I'll just have to say, I agree that I wouldn't ever presume to tell a woman what to do with her body. if a woman were pregnant with my child, however, I feel that does concern/involve me and I do have some right to an opinion. I obviously shouldn't even be posting in this ****ing thread...I wish you all had put a disclaimer that those who can not conceive, men and women alike, shouldn't even comment in this thread...

also, an opinion is merely that. we all form one on many issues in which we have no involvement. it's funny that I am having this convo considering I never even said what my opinion was.

for historical value, let's revisit my short and sweet post:

I'm glad too that so many homeless were fed. I go to a two-story house here once a month and serve the homeless.

as for the execution bit, as with abortion, I'm really, really torn, so I won't comment.


um....yeah...
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:45 AM
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IMO, there's some merit to the viewpoint that in this case, it's not your place to make judgments if the matter doesn't involve/concern you.
to be fair, there's a difference between having an opinion and making judgments, and jazzy really didn't express either.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:50 AM
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to be fair, there's a difference between having an opinion and making judgments . . .
Is there? I think to have an opinion, you have to have formed a judgment of some sort.

I base this on the def. in the big red dic. (emphasis supplied)

Main Entry: opin·ion

Pronunciation: &-'pin-y&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin opinion-, opinio, from opinari

1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter b : APPROVAL, ESTEEM

2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a generally held view

3 a : a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert b : the formal expression (as by a judge, court, or referee) of the legal reasons and principles upon which a legal decision is based

http://www.merriamwebster.com/dictionary/opinion

Main Entry: judg·ment

Variant(s): or judge·ment /'j&j-m&nt/
Function: noun

1 a : a formal utterance of an authoritative opinion b : an opinion so pronounced

2 a : a formal decision given by a court b (1) : an obligation (as a debt) created by the decree of a court (2) : a certificate evidencing such a decree

3 a capitalized : the final judging of humankind by God b : a divine sentence or decision; specifically : a calamity held to be sent by God

4 a : the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b : an opinion or estimate so formed

5 a : the capacity for judging : DISCERNMENT b : the exercise of this capacity

6 : a proposition stating something believed or asserted

synonym see SENSE

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Old 05-14-2007, 10:55 AM
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Is there? I think to have an opinion, you have to have formed a judgment of some sort.
whoops, sorry, i didn't consult my merriam-webster before posting. i'll never do it again.

my point was a) you don't have to pass judgment to have an opinion and b) (my real point) jazzy didn't posit an opinion one way or the other, so this entire argument is ridiculous.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:56 AM
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whoops, sorry, i didn't consult my merriam-webster before posting. i'll never do it again . . . .
You are forgiven
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:58 AM
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:59 AM
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thank god
ooopppsss...now you're forming an opinion regarding religion!


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Old 05-14-2007, 11:01 AM
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ooopppsss...now you're forming an opinion regarding religion!


jeez, i am ****ED!
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:02 AM
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jeez, i am ****ED!
no. that one works.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:04 AM
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whoops, sorry, i didn't consult my merriam-webster before posting. i'll never do it again.

my point was a) you don't have to pass judgment to have an opinion and b) (my real point) jazzy didn't posit an opinion one way or the other, so this entire argument is ridiculous.
Good point.

Okay, I really wasn't trying to start something here.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:06 AM
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Okay, I really wasn't trying to start something here.
I know and that's why I was saying I pretty much agreed with you and that you could basically ignore everything I said after I said that.
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Good point.

Okay, I really wasn't trying to start something here.
whatever, everyone knows you just come back to stir the ****
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:08 AM
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I swear I feel like I'm speaking in ****ing Greek in this place these days. yet again, my initial post is misconstrued. I'm not saying by you, but by the person who began this portion of the debate. and my response is not directly in response to you just my thoughts concerning it all.

I'll just have to say, I agree that I wouldn't ever presume to tell a woman what to do with her body. if a woman were pregnant with my child, however, I feel that does concern/involve me and I do have some right to an opinion. I obviously shouldn't even be posting in this ****ing thread...I wish you all had put a disclaimer that those who can not conceive, men and women alike, shouldn't even comment in this thread...

also, an opinion is merely that. we all form one on many issues in which we have no involvement. it's funny that I am having this convo considering I never even said what my opinion was.

for historical value, let's revisit my short and sweet post:

I'm glad too that so many homeless were fed. I go to a two-story house here once a month and serve the homeless.

as for the execution bit, as with abortion, I'm really, really torn, so I won't comment.


um....yeah...
You needn't have even responded. This was just about a former mod who has spent the past weekend trying to bully and silence people the same way she did when she was mod. Nothing more, nothing less.
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