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Old 05-13-2007, 12:32 PM
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Stevie didn't like him.
I think the problem was that she liked him a little TOO much. Poon hound indeed.

Sheryl did a good thing by adopting. To me it doesn't seem to fit in with the fad of celebrity adoptions and I think this kid will get a nice rounded upbringing. Except with dimly lit rooms and a dirty ass. Meh, we all have our crosses to bear don't we?
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Old 05-13-2007, 05:05 PM
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Do you ever just shut the fukc up? I mean even five minutes would make you more tolerable.
Talking to yourself is unhealthy behavior.
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Old 05-13-2007, 05:33 PM
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I dig Sheryl.
I love her music.
I think she's hot.
Good for her for fulfilling her need to raise a child.
She has the means to give this little boy everything money can buy.
Um, except a father.

On that count, I have to say, poor little boy.
A message from the Fifties?

Congratulations to Sheryl Crow.

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Old 05-13-2007, 05:54 PM
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A message from the Fifties?

Romy
No. A message from someone who thinks fathers aren't irrelevant.
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Old 05-13-2007, 06:37 PM
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No. A message from someone who thinks fathers aren't irrelevant.
yeah. i have to say, i'm in your corner. i had a not very present father, and when he was present, he was usually yelling at my mother or at my sisters and me. i didn't know fathers were kind and supportive sources of love until i started hanging out at my friends' houses.

did i suffer for it? in a word, yes.

would i ever have a child on my own? never.

i look at my friends and how they trust and how they treat relationships and i know they all know how to do that because they had solid family units. i didn't trust men not to be mean, not to hurt, not to threaten to leave until... um... well, i'm still working on it. the guys i've dated/am dating have a hard time with me convincing me that they are not out to get me. and i think, until very recently, i always felt less at ease with guys because my father had always let me down.

i'm not saying i believe every single child who grows up without a father suffers from it. i would not make that generalization. but based on my own experience, i would not choose to bring up a child without a loving dad.

but that's just me.
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Old 05-13-2007, 06:44 PM
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I believe that the *ideal* situation is for two loving parents to raise a child. That being said, I believe that single parents can (and very often do) raise wonderful children. I think if a person is financially stable (not necessarily wealthy), loving, and has a good support system, they can do an awesome job raising a child. I've seen so many bad parents; I'd much rather see one good parent than two crappy ones.
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Old 05-13-2007, 06:56 PM
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You don't have to be a crack whore with track marks on every visible part of your body to have a problem. I'm not even saying anyone here does. I'm just questioning that as people's first response to stress...to get drunk or high. Everyone does it like it's no big deal...people I work with act like getting trashed is the same as going to the movies. Or the grocery store. I think it's insane.

I can't tell if you are actually being serious, or joking here. I'll go with serious since it was my first instinct. I say this with as much respect as I possibly can-out of all the people on the ledge, you are probably one of the most negative, if not THE most. maybe it would do you some good to go have a few beers and cut loose.






but on topic. I think it is a very noble thing what sheryl did. Granted, she benefits as well, but still. It takes a big person to be able to adopt and love that child like it's your own. as far as a father figure-eh. I never had one and I turned out o.k. but turn it around a little bit and take my mother away-it's a pretty grim picture.
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:23 PM
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yeah. i have to say, i'm in your corner. i had a not very present father, and when he was present, he was usually yelling at my mother or at my sisters and me. i didn't know fathers were kind and supportive sources of love until i started hanging out at my friends' houses.

did i suffer for it? in a word, yes.

would i ever have a child on my own? never.

i look at my friends and how they trust and how they treat relationships and i know they all know how to do that because they had solid family units. i didn't trust men not to be mean, not to hurt, not to threaten to leave until... um... well, i'm still working on it. the guys i've dated/am dating have a hard time with me convincing me that they are not out to get me. and i think, until very recently, i always felt less at ease with guys because my father had always let me down.

i'm not saying i believe every single child who grows up without a father suffers from it. i would not make that generalization. but based on my own experience, i would not choose to bring up a child without a loving dad.

but that's just me.
That was interesting, honest, and thought provoking.

There are tons of crappy fathers out there. And mothers.

I think it is only when we are older that we can start to understand
the impact our parents had on us. It is fascinating how such seemingly
small things can alter our lives so immensely. Good and bad.
It is no small miracle that decent people come out of harsh situations,
and a real testament to human nature, ultimately.

If something happened and I ended up with a kid, I have no doubt that I
would just rise to the job and give it my all. But if it were something planned I just couldn't imagine doing it without a mother. No more than I can imagine not having had a mother. She taught me things my Dad never could have.
Things he probably never even thought about.

I wouldn't necessarily say that everyone suffers if they don't have a Dad. Or a Mom. But they do miss out on something.
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:36 PM
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:48 PM
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I thought maybe Sheryl and Lance broke up because of their opposing politics.
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:50 PM
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Do you ever just shut the fukc up? I mean even five minutes would make you more tolerable.


you shutting up for...well, basically forever would make you more tolerable. But I don't get to make the decisions around here. And neither do you, anymore
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I'm sure there is something missed being raised without one of two parents. I was raised with both parents who are still married. But here I am raising one on my own. (not my decision) She misses her father, and she's sometimes weird around men. She loves my father and my uncle very much so, but they are not around for her all the time. And my father is not the type to do much with her either. He didn't do a whole lot with me when I was a kid. I turned out okay, and I have no doubt that Sara will turn out fine too. My fear is that she's gonna grow up and not know how to act around men, or be afraid of them.
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I'm sure there is something missed being raised without one of two parents. I was raised with both parents who are still married. But here I am raising one on my own. (not my decision) She misses her father, and she's sometimes weird around men. She loves my father and my uncle very much so, but they are not around for her all the time. And my father is not the type to do much with her either. He didn't do a whole lot with me when I was a kid. I turned out okay, and I have no doubt that Sara will turn out fine too. My fear is that she's gonna grow up and not know how to act around men, or be afraid of them.
Does coeducational school help? Also, she will have male teachers and many kids look up to their teachers.

On edit (not all the post appeared) -- I guess when there is no other gender parent, the remaining or only parent has to improvise. Doesn't the Big Brother and Big Sister type thing address this issue?

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Old 05-13-2007, 09:33 PM
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No. A message from someone who thinks fathers aren't irrelevant.
Ça va sans dire, non?

Obviously, but the boxed concept of traditional family hasn't exploded enough to show that what is important is the quality of love, respect, protection, attention, delivered to a child?

It needs more than a man to make a father, and more than a woman to make a mother, IMO.

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I thought maybe Sheryl and Lance broke up because of their opposing politics.
..maybe...or is it because he was doing Matthew McConnaughy?
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