Vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

Stevie loves her casual fans more then us die-hards AND girl can't sing anymore. Why else would she not change her setlist? Plus, she probably thinks, these fools keep paying the big bucks for the same setlist, so why should I change it?

I keep paying the big bucks because I love to see Stevie perform. I disagree with your assesment of her voice. I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes. So be it. I'm enjoying myself and think it was worth the money. I understand your disappointment, but I'm not sure there's a need to make insulting judgments on other fans as a result. JMHO.

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I disagree with your assesment of her voice. I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes. So be it. I'm enjoying myself and think it was worth the money. I understand your disappointment, but I'm not sure there's a need to make insulting judgments on other fans as a result.

Theresa, where the hell do you get off calling Nancy a fool?!??

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

While I'm being crabby....I don't like Stand Back as opening song. I can see that it could get the crowd moving in a big way, but I would feel like seven minutes into the show I didn't have much left to live for.

Sorry, I found this hilarious.

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I keep paying the big bucks because I love to see Stevie perform. I disagree with your assesment of her voice. I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes. So be it. I'm enjoying myself and think it was worth the money. I understand your disappointment, but I'm not sure there's a need to make insulting judgments on other fans as a result. JMHO.

I don't think T meant that she thinks Stevie literally can't sing - she's coming up with reasons why she won't change the setlist. In other words - these are the only reasons why Theresa thinks would/should stop her from doing so. I know it's hard to understand her, she is Canadian after all.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

If she took only TWO of them and switched with INTK, Enchanted, Fall From Grace, How Still My Love, Rock and Roll, Sorcerer, then she would still satisfy the casuals with the hits and would shut the rest of us up in a nanosecond.

Oh, yeah, that would shut everyone up, no doubt. I mean, yeah, she put in two different songs for the previous tour - Circle Dance and Rock'n'Roll - but that doesn't count because they were covers. What we'd all certainly be satisfied with is two new songs of her own.... but they should be newer than 1981 because she has too much Belladonna... well, unless it's songs like Sorcerer or Fall from Grace... those aren't hits and should be dropped... oh wait, hits are for the masses not the hardcores, I forgot, Stevie needs to show us more appreciation... Oh wait, she has to get a new wardrobe too, and then we'd all shut up undoubtedly... unless the outfit is black, because otherwise it doesn't count. Oh wait, she needs to lose weight too, and THEN we'd all shut up.

Forget it.

In the words of the immortal Ricky Nelson, "You can't please everyone, so you gotta please yourself." Apparently she is. People have every right to be disappointed and to express that, but to claim that doing two "new" songs would shut up everyone in a nanosecond... come on!

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by skcin

I don't think T meant that she thinks Stevie literally can't sing - she's coming up with reasons why she won't change the setlist. In other words - these are the only reasons why Theresa thinks would/should stop her from doing so. I know it's hard to understand her, she is Canadian after all.

Thanks for the explanation - feel free to volunteer justification for the fool comment, too. As Tower noted, I didn't like it too much. I just don't have his patience to bear such things... he's always demonstrating how well he takes criticism here on the Ledge.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

. . . but to claim that doing two "new" songs would shut up everyone in a nanosecond... come on!

It certainly would quiet a few

In the end, the vasst majority of the people at her shows do not know the setlist or that it is stale. They also likely are the ones that take a piss during Fall Fron Grace because they do not want to miss Dreams. That does not make them bad people.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Oh, yeah, that would shut everyone up, no doubt. I mean, yeah, she put in two different songs for the previous tour - Circle Dance and Rock'n'Roll - but that doesn't count because they were covers. What we'd all certainly be satisfied with is two new songs of her own.... but they should be newer than 1981 because she has too much Belladonna... well, unless it's songs like Sorcerer or Fall from Grace... those aren't hits and should be dropped... oh wait, hits are for the masses not the hardcores, I forgot, Stevie needs to show us more appreciation... Oh wait, she has to get a new wardrobe too, and then we'd all shut up undoubtedly... unless the outfit is black, because otherwise it doesn't count. Oh wait, she needs to lose weight too, and THEN we'd all shut up.

Forget it.

In the words of the immortal Ricky Nelson, "You can't please everyone, so you gotta please yourself." Apparently she is. People have every right to be disappointed and to express that, but to claim that doing two "new" songs would shut up everyone in a nanosecond... come on!

Good God. Who pissed in your Cheerios, Nancy? Theresa & I were both with you 2 years ago defending the setlist, the lack of promised costume changes, etc. I know what you're saying. But you're seriously going to argue with peoples' disappointments & sarcastic comments? You come on. Of course we're disappointed - surprised, no. Disappointed yes!

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Thanks for the explanation - feel free to volunteer justification for the fool comment, too. As Tower noted, I didn't like it too much. I just don't have his patience to bear such things... he's always demonstrating how well he takes criticism here on the Ledge.

I will explain it. Theresa feels like a fool for continuing to spend money for the same show over & over again.

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

It certainly would quiet a few

In the end, the vasst majority of the people at her shows do not know the setlist or that it is stale. They also likely are the ones that take a piss during Fall Fron Grace because they do not want to miss Dreams. That does not make them bad people.

If Stevie did Alice on this tour, I would shut up permanantly with my complaints. But thats just me.


IM SO GLAD OTR is gone. That one was so run into the ground. I hope this isn't what Waddy meant when he said "We're thinking of mixing it up."

Its just depressing when you know she has so many better songs to do on stage than Enchanted.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by takenbythesky

Yeah, I could say the same thing. But her setlist is becoming staler than the crumbs from that chocolate cake she supposedly scarfed down backstage fifteen-odd years ago.

Great reference, but I believe it was a chocolate cream pie.

[SortaSavageLike]

Look, I can tell you people are all really upset about this. I think you need to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

[HejiraNYC]

This is disappointing but expected. I love Stevie and appreciate the fact that she is still on the road singing great and looking great, but I'm afraid even I have reached the limits of my patience with her. I'm afraid I'm going to sit out her upcoming solo dates, although I may attend one of the dates with Eye Sack. At this point, I think I would rather see Stevie retire once-and-for-all, rather than continue this downward spiral into tedium and obsolescence. Maybe it is time for her to pull a Joni Mitchell: retire from music, do artwork and pursue other causes, and then come back when she is inspired again to write, record and create music simply for the pleasure of creating music. Mama is clearly burned out and is resting on her laurels.

I used to think that if the online fan community could get together and sign a "Dear Stevie" letter outlining our sorrow with her stale setlists and lack of new songs, she would somehow be awoken from her fog and realize that she doesn't have to be a hits jukebox all the time, and that it's okay to try something new and fail sometimes. Now I don't think it would make any difference. Mama is on autopilot because she can get away with it. She doesn't give a sh*t about the audience, other than their ability to buy a ticket. In her own words, "This isn't about art..."

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Thanks for the explanation - feel free to volunteer justification for the fool comment, too. As Tower noted, I didn't like it too much. I just don't have his patience to bear such things... he's always demonstrating how well he takes criticism here on the Ledge.

Good Lord -- might I suggest going to the gym and hitting on the punching bag for an hour to vent this frustration, which I think comes from your internal and unadmitted frustration at the unaltered, same old tired set list

[strandinthewind]

[QUOTE=HejiraNYC;667524] . . . She doesn't give a sh*t about the audience, other than their ability to buy a ticket.

Actually, if the vast majority of the people there are there for the hits, then your statement is false because she is giving the vast majority of the people what they want

I will never forget one of the TISL shows I went to and many people were horrified and upset that Landslide was not in the set. A few of them were cursing her. I was elated because it meant room for one more TISL song. I was clearly in the minority.

In the end, she has too many hits. A fate I wish I could suffer.

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

In her own words, "This isn't about art..."

[sodascouts]

I guess I did come off pissy! I didn't mean to sound VERY upset; just annoyed. I know I'm not the only one who can get carried away in replies around here. What a way to get back on the Ledge, eh?

P.S. But I was always careful to say I didn't mean people shouldn't express disappointment!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I love her music, but am sooooo happy I did not blow a grand to go to Vegas and hear her drone the three notes she clings to for 75% of these songs.

She needs to swap out at least four of those songs. But, she never will I guess.

Yup. I forgot there was even a show last night.