Tango In the Night - Page 3

carrie721 · #31 03-19-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

omg. I never thought about that, but you are SO right.

I've been called worse. and I think it's actually a compliment. I mean, whitebread is a delicacy in our nation. you know, with all the Atkins Asses and carb counting cnuts...

so, in my eyes, I'm just a piece of ass a lot of people hunger for.

atkins dieters everywhere are looking at your hot loaf of ass and drooling. trufakt.

foxyluva · #32 03-19-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

really? you think so? I'll let you have When I See You Again even though I love that song. but Seven Wonders? you think that brought the album down?

Well, I wont say it brought the album down - but I don't really like it. I liked it live on the '88 tour though

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Originally Posted by Carrie721

yes, jaz, can't you see that seven wonders really lowered the bar on an album that included "family man."

Smart arse

Yeah, "Family Man" sucks. Everything else rules though...

carrie721 · #33 03-19-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva

Smart arse

Yeah, "Family Man" sucks. Everything else rules though...

thanks for the joan, btw.

foxyluva · #34 03-19-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

thanks for the joan, btw.

You are welcome

Let me know what you think

Johnny Stew · #35 03-19-2007, 03:46 PM

Lindsey's & Christine's 'Tango' songs are, sonically, brilliant. Extremely well played, sung & produced. But, thematically, they're rather flavorless. At least to me.

Stevie's tracks are dark and confessional, and they provide the album's emotional weight and pathos. Because of that, they may seem out of place next to songs like "Mystified," "You And I, part 2" and "Family Man," but, without them, the album would be little more than ear candy.

IMO.

**jbrownsjr** · #36 03-20-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

really? you think so? I'll let you have When I See You Again even though I love that song. but Seven Wonders? you think that brought the album down?

actually l really like all of Stevie's contributions... I think Lindsey and Christine did a great job with melding her demos w/ the album....

**jbrownsjr** · #37 03-20-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Lindsey's & Christine's 'Tango' songs are, sonically, brilliant. Extremely well played, sung & produced. But, thematically, they're rather flavorless. At least to me.

Stevie's tracks are dark and confessional, and they provide the album's emotional weight and pathos. Because of that, they may seem out of place next to songs like "Mystified," "You And I, part 2" and "Family Man," but, without them, the album would be little more than ear candy.

IMO.

Flavorless... they are too flavorful... if anything... overproduced... yeah... but flavorless... don't know if i agree... When I See You Again is a beautiful song... the vocals are a little rough.. but the song itself moves me ....

my favorite song here is Tango In the Night...

danax6 · #38 03-20-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Lindsey's & Christine's 'Tango' songs are, sonically, brilliant. Extremely well played, sung & produced. But, thematically, they're rather flavorless. At least to me.

Stevie's tracks are dark and confessional, and they provide the album's emotional weight and pathos. Because of that, they may seem out of place next to songs like "Mystified," "You And I, part 2" and "Family Man," but, without them, the album would be little more than ear candy.

IMO.

I agree. Although 'Welcome to the Room...Sara' remains one of my least favourite tracks, both 'Seven Wonders' and 'When I See You Again' more than make up for that. The latter especially is so emotionally honest, you forget all about the repetitive lyrics and just get swept into what she must have been going through while writing this song. I love it.

JazmenFlowers · #39 03-20-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by danax6

I agree. Although 'Welcome to the Room...Sara' remains one of my least favourite tracks, both 'Seven Wonders' and 'When I See You Again' more than make up for that. The latter especially is so emotionally honest, you forget all about the repetitive lyrics and just get swept into what she must have been going through while writing this song. I love it.

I love WISYA for the same reasons. WTTRS is ok. not one of my all-time favs, but it's ok. I lump it in with the "Affairs of the Heart Category".

WildHeart69 · #40 03-25-2007, 10:57 PM

hmm, I really like WTTRS... the only FM album Stevie song I dont like is Silver Girl...just bleh

Phil · #41 03-26-2007, 04:39 AM

I'm with Johnny on this one... Christine's and Lindsey's contributions were well crafted but, in my opinion, devoid of passion (with the possible exception of Big Love and Tango In The Night). Isn't It Midnight is a better than average song, particularly when compared with anything Christine released from 1982 onwards, and Little Lies is a by-numbers tune which was assisted immeasurably by Lindsey's inventive production and Stevie's superb vocal harmonising (Lindsey's work on this track alone makes me wonder what he could have achieved with Christine's 1984 solo album if given half a chance). However, the remaining L & C songs are high gloss froth and nothing more.
Without a doubt, the heart and soul of this album is provided by Stevie, who admittedly was hardly in peak form at the time. That said, her recklessness and unrestrained intensity actually nourished the album, delivering a much needed emotional depth and sense of poignancy. When I See You Again may not be her greatest moment but its starkness and naked honesty render it one of the more memorable moments within this collection of sub-standard songs. I remember reading a review of the album that George Michael had written for an English magazine in the 1980's where he referred to the absolute heartbreak of Stevie's vocal on this song and how it had profoundly moved him - that is the type of reaction I'm talking about - a visceral, human response as opposed to the contrived elevator-muzak nonsense of Everywhere.
Seven Wonders is a great song and is ably served by a powerhouse vocal, the likes of which we've never heard again. The story behind this whereby Stevie sang Sandy Stewart's lyrics to the best of her rather clouded recollection and couldn't replicate the performance with the correct lines demonstrates the intuitive approach favoured by our gal at the time. Unsurpassable.
If Seven Wonders is an example of inspired and sympathetic production from Lindsey, then his input on Welcome To The Room Sara is evidence of gross and indecent sabotage. We know that Stevie detests the released version and whether one cares for the song or not, the exuberance of the demo is undeniable not to mention that it did actually possess a tune! However, any semblance of a melody was eradicated via the rather clumsy, clunky, stilted, soulless arrangement bestowed upon it by our Lindsey ie he ****ing hated Stevie at the time.
It's ironic that Lindsey and Christine resented Stevie's absence during the bulk of recording because what they created in 18 months of slavish studio toiling and twiddling, Stevie pissed all over in the few days that she attended proceedings. It's quite hilarious when you think about it.
PS I also think that Big Love and Family Man would have benefited greatly if Stevie's backing vocals had made the final cut... perhaps a further example of Lindsey's anger and insane jealousy interfering with his judgement?

PenguinHead · #42 03-26-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

I'm with Johnny on this one... Christine's and Lindsey's contributions were well crafted but, in my opinion, devoid of passion (with the possible exception of Big Love and Tango In The Night). Isn't It Midnight is a better than average song, particularly when compared with anything Christine released from 1982 onwards, and Little Lies is a by-numbers tune which was assisted immeasurably by Lindsey's inventive production and Stevie's superb vocal harmonising (Lindsey's work on this track alone makes me wonder what he could have achieved with Christine's 1984 solo album if given half a chance). However, the remaining L & C songs are high gloss froth and nothing more.
Without a doubt, the heart and soul of this album is provided by Stevie, who admittedly was hardly in peak form at the time. That said, her recklessness and unrestrained intensity actually nourished the album, delivering a much needed emotional depth and sense of poignancy. When I See You Again may not be her greatest moment but its starkness and naked honesty render it one of the more memorable moments within this collection of sub-standard songs. I remember reading a review of the album that George Michael had written for an English magazine in the 1980's where he referred to the absolute heartbreak of Stevie's vocal on this song and how it had profoundly moved him - that is the type of reaction I'm talking about - a visceral, human response as opposed to the contrived elevator-muzak nonsense of Everywhere.
Seven Wonders is a great song and is ably served by a powerhouse vocal, the likes of which we've never heard again. The story behind this whereby Stevie sang Sandy Stewart's lyrics to the best of her rather clouded recollection and couldn't replicate the performance with the correct lines demonstrates the intuitive approach favoured by our gal at the time. Unsurpassable.
If Seven Wonders is an example of inspired and sympathetic production from Lindsey, then his input on Welcome To The Room Sara is evidence of gross and indecent sabotage. We know that Stevie detests the released version and whether one cares for the song or not, the exuberance of the demo is undeniable not to mention that it did actually possess a tune! However, any semblance of a melody was eradicated via the rather clumsy, clunky, stilted, soulless arrangement bestowed upon it by our Lindsey ie he ****ing hated Stevie at the time.
It's ironic that Lindsey and Christine resented Stevie's absence during the bulk of recording because what they created in 18 months of slavish studio twiddling, Stevie pissed all over in the few days that she attended proceedings. It's quite hilarious when you think about it.
PS I also think that Big Love and Family Man would have benefited greatly if Stevie's backing vocals had made the final cut... perhaps a further example of Lindsey's anger and insane jealousy interfering with his judgement?

Thanks for your post. This is one of the most interesting and intelligent assessments I've ever read about any Fleetwood Mac album. Your perspective is patently unique and thoughtful....do I dare say "scholarly"? It certainly makes me think differently about Stevie's somewhat dicey contributions to the album. Cheers!

skcin · #43 03-27-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Thanks for your post. This is one of the most interesting and intelligent assessments I've ever read about any Fleetwood Mac album. Your perspective is patently unique and thoughtful....do I dare say "scholarly"? It certainly makes me think differently about Stevie's somewhat dicey contributions to the album. Cheers!

I agree. I really enjoyed reading that post.

UndoingTheLaces · #44 03-29-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by skcin

I agree. I really enjoyed reading that post.

I must agree also. Big love didn't thrill me much until I heard the remix and that one moment where Stevie sings the "Well it's a big, big love... yeah" and the "house up on the hill" totally made the song for me. I still sing her part if I'm listening to the album version.

I've never heard the demo of Welcome to the Room... Sara that you speak of. Would you mind posting it?

strandinthewind · #45 03-29-2007, 05:45 AM

I have never heard Stevie say she hates the album cut of WTTRS - but she could have and I just do not remember. If anyone has a quote or interview, I'd love to see or read it

As for TITN - yes, it appears La Nicks sort of waltzed in and added much needed life to the songs. I think LB saw this and his jealousy of her took over, which is sad. I think this happened frequently to LB in the sense that he could work all day, week, or month on one part and La Nicks would show up and add some harmony she pulls out of her a$$ in ten seconds and it is a better product for it. I'd be jealous of that too, esp. if she dumped me to boot

I mean look at the Letterman version of Big Love -- La Nicks' vocals add a dimension to that already good song that is stunning.

As for Stevie's songs, WTTRS is a nice sentiment, but a deadful production. I love Seven Wonders and the vocal is one of her best. WISYA is stark and confessional, but the baby fest is too much for me to take at times.

In the end, I think the best song on the record is Little Lies and I think that because it is the three at their vocal and collaborative best. I will always maintain that the five are best when they are a group effort.