A Public Apology

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think calling someone out for what you perceive as a wrong is fine.

It is as long as it does not get personal. Calling someone out on their bull**** is fine and should be present in any healthy relationship. It's also a two way street. Healthy debate is something the founders of this site encourage and support.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by PsychCat

Wish I could say the same. I have not posted in quite some time because of the incredibly rude and crass abuse of faux-power exhibited by Chris.
And YES, I did PM her to apologize if anything I said was misconstrued and made a peace offering. What did I get? MORE HELL!! I PM'ed again and got more smart-ass remarks. And YES, I agree that there is too much negative energy going around and how did she respond to that? ... basically continued to threaten "calling me out" and taking other actions. Who needs that nonsense?

I was first confused that someone could be such a frickin' jerk in a place where I have totally enjoyed corresponding with others. But that soon turned to pity because some internet message board moderators, I have discovered, are like those people that are real bad asses IN THEIR CAR! And if bossing people around on a message board gives you a feeling of power and control... well, bless your heart.

I truly enjoyed interacting with others about whatever topic, as well as having a place to share stories about talking with Bekka and/or Billy around town.
However, putting up with such nonsense ain't worth it.
Thanks for the apology but it's about patterns vs. incidence and such unpredictability is boring.
Back away from the mouse... get a life. PEACE!!

PsychCat, you inferred in a thread about Saddam Hussein that the members who were participating in the thread were uninformed about the atrocities he'd commited. I vigorously rebutted your point. It wasn't the first time I had noticed your pattern of little hit and run jobs like that. So I called you on it. I'm sorry if that hurt your feelings. I have now apologized not once but twice. You can choose to hold on to your anger if that is serving you, which it seems to be or you can let it go. I tried to end on a positive note with you in my last pm to you. I really am at a loss for anything else to say.
Namaste'.

[BTFLCHLD]

PASSION OF THE CHRIST!!!

Chris...henceforth, your apologies should be written in blood and scanned for all to see!

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by sparky

I usually hate everybody.

(Sarcastically) "I'm not a racist...I hate everyone!"

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

We have enough stickies, right Curt? Plus once everyone saw it there really wasn't a reason to keep it up top like that.

oh ok. :|

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by The Tower

The Four Seasons is such an awesome hotel. Much more impressive than the places in Kauai.

You lucky bastard! I have wanted to go there forever. It sounds like you guys had a great time.

[PsychCat]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

PsychCat, you inferred in a thread about Saddam Hussein that the members who were participating in the thread were uninformed about the atrocities he'd commited.

First of all, and I'll say it again... I was NOT referring to people on these boards and the fact that you find it necessary to PERSONALIZE everything not only makes my earlier point but that of obviously many others.

With that, I have to add that while this particular thread may be about your own atrocities... the website and message boards ARE NOT.
Speaking for myself, I have been a fan of FLEETWOOD MAC (remember them?) for over 30 years and I came here BECAUSE OF THEM. I absolutely love talking with the other fans about the different eras and line-ups. That is one of the amazing beauties of this band is that while they changed... they stayed the same. I may not agree with everyone and they may not agree with me BUT we all get along and are cool with it. Stevie vs. Bekka .... Lindsey vs. Billy... Rumours vs. Time ... etc, etc. Bottom line is we all have a great appreciation for FLEETWOOD MAC.

THANK YOU to all who have written/posted that my absence was noticed. And my feelings were not "hurt" (don't flatter yourself, Chris) but I was surprised to find such an ego amongst the boards... let alone one considered a "moderator". And if you are here to just give everyone some level of hell, PLEASE display an ounce of integrity and do the FLEETWOOD MAC fans a favor by stepping-down as "moderator". I'm realistic and realize that will never happen for obvious reasons.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by PsychCat

With that, I have to add that while this particular thread may be about your own atrocities... the website and message boards ARE NOT.
Speaking for myself, I have been a fan of FLEETWOOD MAC (remember them?) for over 30 years and I came here BECAUSE OF THEM. I absolutely love talking with the other fans about the different eras and line-ups. That is one of the amazing beauties of this band is that while they changed... they stayed the same. I may not agree with everyone and they may not agree with me BUT we all get along and are cool with it. Stevie vs. Bekka .... Lindsey vs. Billy... Rumours vs. Time ... etc, etc. Bottom line is we all have a great appreciation for FLEETWOOD MAC.

I'm sorry, but not to take away from your post but......what message board have YOU been visiting??

ok. carry on

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by PsychCat

. . . With that, I have to add that while this particular thread may be about your own atrocities . . . .

atrocious

Main Entry: atro·cious
Pronunciation: &-'trO-sh&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin atroc-, atrox gloomy, atrocious, from atr-, ater black + -oc-, -ox (akin to Greek Ops eye) -- more at EYE
1 : extremely wicked, brutal, or cruel : BARBARIC
2 : APPALLING, HORRIFYING
3 a : utterly revolting : ABOMINABLE b : of very poor quality
- atro·cious·ly adverb
- atro·cious·ness noun

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/atrocious
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I think you are taking getting into a pissing war with Chris a little too seriously

What was that you said about backing away from the mouse?

[strandinthewind]

Here is a link to the SH thread.

You said, regarding SH's execution, buh by and then:

hope plenty of folks will watch the retrospectives about Saddam that will follow this evenings events. This guy was pure evil, as were his sons. No doubt that fact has been forgotten in favor of bashing Bush (which to be honest is SO tired!). At least in this country we are free to say whatever we will about our "leaders" and not fear torture and retaliation.... let alone mass genocide.

to which Chris responded:

Thanks for letting us all know that we don't know enough about Saddam. I've been alive during his entire reign and know full well what an evil asshole he was. Our president is no different. I, for one will not stop bashing him here on this board or anywhere else for that matter. If you don't like the subject matter, you're free to ignore it.

The foregoing is hadly an atrocity

you responded:

Thank you for your response.

to which she replied:

Anytime. We may joke around but this board contains a very intelligent, politically aware group of people. For you to insinuate that we don't know what we are talking about is insulting and I hope you realize that.

I fail to see the harm here other than the response to your rather patronizing post about people forgetting and needlessly bashing W, who the evidence clearly indicates manipulated the intelligence to force the war. If you have other evidence, let's see it.

Then you replied - apparently acknowledging that your original post was offensive in application but not intent - though it was placed in the middle of W bashers who presumably would be included in your revised definition:

I would like to publicly APOLOGIZE to anyone who may have been offended by anything I said/wrote.
I think the world of coming to these boards and chatting with y'all.
I was not speaking of anyone one in general... it's just that there is already so much low energy (ie, hate and dissention) in the world and I suppose I let me ego do the typing. When I said "everyone" I meant everyone everywhere... not just you guys. SORRY for any misunderstanding.
And I better end on that note.
Again... I apologize and welcome any personal notes in response. Thanks!

Then, Chris accepted your apology by saying:

Alright then, let's move on. His exectuion was videotaped and is going to be disseminated amongst the Iraqi people. We'll probably get at least the still photographs with our Sunday papers.

Again, this hardly seems to be an atrocity

Here is a link to the thread

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=30542

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So, I am unsure how that thread supports your proposition that Chris is on an ego trip.

I am not attacking you. I am just trying to understand where you are coming from

[DeadliestPoison]

I'm sure Chris can hold her own, Jason. God knows she's done it before.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by DeadliestPoison

I'm sure Chris can hold her own, Jason. God knows she's done it before.

I think so too. And I'm not trying to keep this going, but I would like everyone to think about this:
I believe a moderator should be held to a different standard than everybody else. That said, no one is critisizing Chris as a person, a Ledgie, or a friend. Her friends are all coming to her aid, which is quite admirable, but, again, we're not critiquing(sp) her as a friend. We're looking at the JOB of moderator, and if improprieties exist. As far as I'm concerned, it's nothing personal. And the others mods could certainly benefit from this examination. Dontcha think? JMO.

[irishgrl]

methinks the Homester is angling for a pre-St. Patty's day brewsky!

[irishgrl]

^^^^^^
which, if you think about it, isnt a bad idea at ALL!

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I think so too. And I'm not trying to keep this going, but I would like everyone to think about this:
I believe a moderator should be held to a different standard than everybody else. That said, no one is critisizing Chris as a person, a Ledgie, or a friend. Her friends are all coming to her aid, which is quite admirable, but, again, we're not critiquing(sp) her as a friend. We're looking at the JOB of moderator, and if improprieties exist. As far as I'm concerned, it's nothing personal. And the others mods could certainly benefit from this examination. Dontcha think? JMO.

I agree - but, then we are back to my question, which is what was so awful about the exchange I posted when considered by that higher standard

I think her reply to you on the 7W board was meant in jest, but it came across to you in a different way, which we all know happens a bunch when the written word is all we have. In any event, she apologized here.

In the posts I quoted above, Psychcat apologized for the same kind of misconception and Chris accepted it and moved on. To me, that was the right thing to do for a moderator or anyone else.