An Official Fleetwood Mac Album Debate

[Stew_Matthews]

As one or two posters have been a bit controversial, it's probably safe to post!

I think had Tusk been about 11 or 12 tracks long, it would have been their best work. I have a cut down version (my 11 favourites) that I love more than any other album. But the original album, as experimental as it is, as brilliantly produced as it is, just doesn't have the 'balance' of Rumours. Rumours has this wonderful flow from track to track. Tusk isn't like that - just as you get into the flow something comes 'left field' and breaks it up. However both Tusk and Rumours are in a completely different league to anything they have done collectively or individually (IMO!)

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Well, Shut Us Down is -clearly- one of my fave tracks ever....

Gerald, did we find out yet if Lindsey wrote the music or the lyrics or did he participate in both? I am curious and have asked Lindsey in the Q&A.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

Gerald, did we find out yet if Lindsey wrote the music or the lyrics or did he participate in both? I am curious and have asked Lindsey in the Q&A.

Well, to be honest, that doesn't interest me enough to search for. But who can answer that better than the man himself? If he finds the time to actually answer those Q&A-questions....

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Well, to be honest, that doesn't interest me enough to search for. But who can answer that better than the man himself? If he finds the time to actually answer those Q&A-questions....

My curiosity was peaked when Cory Sipper noted that she co-wrote yet on Lindsey's CD there is no mention of her.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

My curiosity was peaked when Cory Sipper noted that she co-wrote yet on Lindsey's CD there is no mention of her.

So she lied or our man is facing a lawsuit.

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

My curiosity was peaked when Cory Sipper noted that she co-wrote yet on Lindsey's CD there is no mention of her.

Does it not say in it that it was written by Buckingham/Sipper? I never checked and the CDs at home at the minute so I can't check. What are the credits given on the Elizabethtown soundtrack?

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

Gerald, did we find out yet if Lindsey wrote the music or the lyrics or did he participate in both? I am curious and have asked Lindsey in the Q&A.

I believe Nancy (sodascouts) talked to Cory and was told that she wrote the lyrics and Lindsey wrote the music.

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

My curiosity was peaked when Cory Sipper noted that she co-wrote yet on Lindsey's CD there is no mention of her.

My copy of the liner notes say....

Tracks 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 Written by Lindsey Buckingham, ©2006 Now Sounds Publishing (ASCAP)
Track 4 Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, ©1966 (Renewed) ABKCO Music, Inc. (BMI)
Track 6 Written by Donovan Leitch, ©1965 Donovan (Music) Limited. All Rights Admin. by Songs of Peer Ltd. (ASCAP)
Track 8 Written by Cory Sipper and Lindsey Buckingham, ©2006 Now Sounds Publishing (ASCAP)

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by danax6

The Dance was done ONLY for commercial purposes. Not an ounce of creativity or artsy fartsy intentions were poured into the Dance. It was created to sell as many copies as possible and make the members as much money as possible.

I have an LA Times article from 1997, speculating on the "upcoming" Mac reunion and discussing the fact that the Fleetwood Mac name had been "diluted" by "replacements and weak musical efforts" after the departures of Lindsey & Stevie.

The journalist, and the music industry insiders he spoke to, all said that 'The Dance' was going to be FM's last big chance to redeem themselves, and that they needed to make people forget about the years between '88 and '96.
In fact, some insiders weren't sure that 'The Dance' would even be successful because of those years.

I'm not saying that I agree with that, but I do think that all involved (band members, managers, record company) felt that Fleetwood Mac needed to remind the general public of all of the amazing songs they had, before they could ever even consider putting out an album of all-new material.

Not to start another argument, but when considering all of the recent accusations levelled at her, it's interesting to note that Stevie was the only one who wrote a new song specifically for the 'Dance,' rather than just pulling out something she had already written.

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Not to start another argument, but when considering all of the recent accusations levelled at her, it's interesting to note that Stevie was the only one who wrote a new song specifically for the 'Dance,' rather than just pulling out something she had already written.

Sweet Girl? Based on the demo from Enchanted, I always figured that it was written earlier. I obviously don't know that for sure, it was just always my assumption.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Sarah

Sweet Girl? Based on the demo from Enchanted, I always figured that it was written earlier. I obviously don't know that for sure, it was just always my assumption.

No, it was written just a week prior to the band going into rehearsals for 'The Dance.'

From the 'Enchanted' liner notes....

This was the demo I did the last week of March, 1997, to take to rehearsal on April 1st for Fleetwood Mac's version of "Sweet Girl."
I thought you would enjoy hearing it in its first form.
Christopher recorded our friend Big Al playing all the guitars, and me and Lori singing, in our home studio in Paradise Valley.
We didn't have much time, and I wasn't leaving Phoenix without "Sweet Girl."

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

The journalist, and the music industry insiders he spoke to, all said that 'The Dance' was going to be FM's last big chance to redeem themselves, and that they needed to make people forget about the years between '88 and '96.

What a load of crap. I wonder how much more respected Fleetwood Mac would've been had they told those "music industry insiders" to blow it out their asses?

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Track 8 Written by Cory Sipper and Lindsey Buckingham, ©2006 Now Sounds Publishing (ASCAP)

I didn't see her name listed... apparently, I need glasses.

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I believe Nancy (sodascouts) talked to Cory and was told that she wrote the lyrics and Lindsey wrote the music.

Thank you for letting me know this...I was curious who did what.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

No, it was written just a week prior to the band going into rehearsals for 'The Dance.'

From the 'Enchanted' liner notes....

This was the demo I did the last week of March, 1997, to take to rehearsal on April 1st for Fleetwood Mac's version of "Sweet Girl."
I thought you would enjoy hearing it in its first form.
Christopher recorded our friend Big Al playing all the guitars, and me and Lori singing, in our home studio in Paradise Valley.
We didn't have much time, and I wasn't leaving Phoenix without "Sweet Girl."

Doesn't that mean she just demo'd it (or recorded it as a demo) and not wrote it?... It's possible that it could have been written months prior

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by danax6

The Dance was done ONLY for commercial purposes. Not an ounce of creativity or artsy fartsy intentions were poured into the Dance. It was created to sell as many copies as possible and make the members as much money as possible.

Still, it was a great endeavor though, you'll never hear me knocking down The Dance.

For commercial reasons, and just to enjoy the reunion (though it seemed Chris didn't enjoy enough). But who cares? Yes I'd have like some new material, but finally we got SYW (where I missed Christine, but nothing is perfect).

I don't see The Dance as a dissapointment, it was a reunion show and album. And that's it. The band enjoyed it, and people reeeally enjoyed it.