Do you believe?

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

After weeks of X-Files marathons, UFO Documentaries on the History Channel and finally the viewing of Signs (I'd never seen it). I've really become interested anew in U.F.O.s

As a kid I was obsessed, checked out all books available on U.F.O.s etc.

I have always believed they're out there. But then I start thinking, if they've been around since before recorded history why do we STILL have no hard evidence? Nothing concrete that proves they exsist....

"I want to believe"

So...thoughts? Do you believe in UFOs?

Discuss....

I dont believe in them persay, but I believe in the possibility of them considering the vastness of the universe.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by goldustsongbird

They're all part of the paranormal, yeah? Anything other-worldly has always fascinated me.

Right...I think they're all part of the "paranormal"

And I don't think that if they can find us we can find them, especially if they're superior to us in intelligence...

Also - if they created the human race, they'd have a reason to come and visit - and look

I never did a sceance or ouija board type thing, I wasn't allowed as a kid - was told they're "satanic". But I had a couple of ghostly experiences that left me believing in the spirit world.

[goldustsongbird]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Right...I think they're all part of the "paranormal"

And I don't think that if they can find us we can find them, especially if they're superior to us in intelligence...

Also - if they created the human race, they'd have a reason to come and visit - and look

I never did a sceance or ouija board type thing, I wasn't allowed as a kid - was told they're "satanic". But I had a couple of ghostly experiences that left me believing in the spirit world.

heh, well, no one really knew I was holding one. It was at my grandma's with some neighbourhood kids, and one of the girls suggested it. We went up and did it in the attic... While we were up there the lights went off. We were all miles away from the switch, and everyone else in the house was downstairs. Aside from that, I've had a few experiences, too. I used to see auras around people all the time, and had premonitions. Doesn't happen too much anymore.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by goldustsongbird

They're all part of the paranormal, yeah? Anything other-worldly has always fascinated me.

I guess they are, if only because both have not been scientifically proven. I just put them in another category I guess. I do believe in ghosts in a way, I would never discount any paranormal occurance, I believe there is something to be said about a lot of things. And as I said, I can concur with there being other beings in the universe, I just think that all these supposed UFO sightings and abduction stories are all a bunch of boohocky. I don't think they've ever visited this planet.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by danax6

I guess they are, if only because both have not been scientifically proven. I just put them in another category I guess. I do believe in ghosts in a way, I would never discount any paranormal occurance, I believe there is something to be said about a lot of things. And as I said, I can concur with there being other beings in the universe, I just think that all these supposed UFO sightings and abduction stories are all a bunch of boohocky. I don't think they've ever visited this planet.

You're wrong- I think they've not only visited the Earth, but also The Ledge

[danax6]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

And I don't think that if they can find us we can find them, especially if they're superior to us in intelligence...

Well, who's to say they are?

Also - if they created the human race, they'd have a reason to come and visit - and look

Didn't God create the human race? Or wait, God was actually extraterrestrial right? That's why human genetics and texts from every major religion were found on an artifact that was deriven from a spaceship found on the African Coast right?

I never did a sceance or ouija board type thing, I wasn't allowed as a kid - was told they're "satanic". But I had a couple of ghostly experiences that left me believing in the spirit world.

Never dabble into that. Scary stuff.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

You're wrong- I think they've not only visited the Earth, but also The Ledge

Now that I could agree on.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by danax6

Well, who's to say they are?

Who's to say they're not?

Originally Posted by danax6

Didn't God create the human race? Or wait, God was actually extraterrestrial right? That's why human genetics and texts from every major religion were found on an artifact that was deriven from a spaceship found on the African Coast right?

Well there's no concret proof of God either

And actually, I saw a show on the History Channel this weekend that had themes scarily close to that X-Files episode But anyway, it was a show about how some of the things in the Bible are actually encounters with extra terrestials. Sounds completely kooky, right?

But the interesting point is there's as much proof for that as there is for God Himself. It was just an intersting point of view that got me thinking, though I'm a believer first and foremost in God.

Originally Posted by danax6

Never dabble into that. Scary stuff.

My sister did Ouija with one of my cousins, her story was scary, so that alone made me never want to try it - now I just am not really interested in contacting the dead, so I don't see myself ever dabbling in it.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Who's to say they're not?

Exactly my point. Nobody knows, so whenever someone says they can visit because they have a higher intelligence it's all speculation. And why would they need a higher intelligence to visit? To build better spacecrafts that can travel billions of light years? Is the universe really bigger than the planets we know of? So many questions...

Well there's no concret proof of God either

And actually, I saw a show on the History Channel this weekend that had themes scarily close to that X-Files episode But anyway, it was a show about how some of the things in the Bible are actually encounters with extra terrestials. Sounds completely kooky, right?

But the interesting point is there's as much proof for that as there is for God Himself. It was just an intersting point of view that got me thinking, though I'm a believer first and foremost in God.

No, there's no concreet proof of God. And I don't believe in God. I find those theories you mentioned mighty interesting, however kooky they may sound. I don't think it's any less or more kooky than believing in God. Me? I'm with Darwin here as far as the creation of mankind goes. We all started out as teeny tiny atoms.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by danax6

No, there's no concreet proof of God. And I don't believe in God. I find those theories you mentioned mighty interesting, however kooky they may sound. I don't think it's any less or more kooky than believing in God. Me? I'm with Darwin here as far as the creation of mankind goes. We all started out as teeny tiny atoms.

Exactly....I was watching that show at the gym, there was a guy on a treadmill getting visibly annoyed at the statements that the things in the Bible happened exactly as he thinks they did.

That got me thinking, well why is THIS theory and different than yours? Why is believe in extra terrestials any odder than believing in God? So that's what I've been thinking about for a few days...hence the thread.


Me? As I've stated before I've always been a big believer in everything...even good old Nessy

[markolas]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

But I had a couple of ghostly experiences that left me believing in the spirit world.

Not sure what I think about that. Buddhism teaches that there are spiritual realms (heavens, hells, ghostly realms, etc), but it's something I take kind of an agnostic view on. Kind of. I personally have never had any experiences with that sort of thing, but that's not to say I would necessarily find other people's experiences unbelievable.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by markolas

Not sure what I think about that. Buddhism teaches that there are spiritual realms (heavens, hells, ghostly realms, etc), but it's something I take kind of an agnostic view on. Kind of. I personally have never had any experiences with that sort of thing, but that's not to say I would necessarily find other people's experiences unbelievable.

Interesting. I don't know how I'd feel about it had I not had experience myself...or heard from family folklore other stories of family members.

There is always the theory that we WANT to believe and can stretch/mold things to fit those beliefs..but there are some thing so unbelievable, so unexplainable that I don't fully buy that.

That said, I find myself more of a skeptic (though I'm not sounding like it here) than I was when I was younger..maybe it's something that just naturally comes with age? I don't know...but I still find it all so very fascinating.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

That got me thinking, well why is THIS theory and different than yours? Why is believe in extra terrestials any odder than believing in God? So that's what I've been thinking about for a few days...hence the thread.

I can think about these things for days also. And discuss them. You know really, if you think about it, God is a paranormal thing also. It has never been scientifically proven that he exists, yet religion is so much a part of our society that nobody gives it a second thought. I never condemn someone for believing in God, because everybody is entitled to believe what they want to, but it's really hypocritical for someone that believes in God to condemn someone that doesn't, and might believe in something else. Ultimately faith is faith, whether you believe in a universal being or in a bottle of milk. As I said, one believe is not more or less kooky than the other and I am open to all kinds of different theories, until the correct one will be presented to me with scientific facts. Right now, the Big Bang theory wins in that category, and it's something I can most easily wrap my mind around. Faith is nice and all, but in this day and age, it's a little outdated. Gods were created in times when people really had no clue and had to attribute a lot of incidents and happenstances to something or someone. Heck, for the longest time they thought they earth was flat. So, I really blame it on ignorance.

Me? As I've stated before I've always been a big believer in everything...even good old Nessy

That's really not a name you should mention around me. My parents used to call me Nessie when I was little, and many people found that the funniest thing ever...obviously.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

if you are feeling the alien vibe

if you're feeling the alien vibe i strongly suggest calling mulder & scully immediately.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by carrie721

if you're feeling the alien vibe i strongly suggest calling mulder & scully immediately.

I would call in AD Skinner. For alien vibes or plumbing problems.