Anna Nicole Smith found in hotel room unresponsive - Page 11

strandinthewind · #**151** 02-09-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

CNN reporting the autopsy was inconclusive but that there's no signs foul play and that no drugs were found in the stomach.

She could had vomited or they could have been absorbed into her.

Also, they said they found cold meds and Valium. CNN just said that it is very hard to OD on Valium as there is a large margin of error and you would have to take alot of them.

Then, some reporter who interviewed her like last week said she tried to kill herself in her swimming pool a month or so ago and her bodyguard, who is a paramedic, had to administer CPR.

This who thing is just so sad.

I think if people knew where she lived, they would be bringing flowers there a la Diana, though she was no Diana.

strandinthewind · #**152** 02-09-2007, 03:56 PM

Also, why would they need her DNA for the paternity. We know the daughter is her daughter?

Rickypt · #**153** 02-09-2007, 03:57 PM

I'm surprised I feel so much emotion about this story, but I do.

SuzeQuze · #**154** 02-09-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt

I'm surprised I feel so much emotion about this story, but I do.

Same. I wasn't a fan but it is just so sad.

skcin · #**155** 02-09-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

She could had vomited or they could have been absorbed into her.

Also, they said they found cold meds and Valium. CNN just said that it is very hard to OD on Valium as there is a large margin of error and you would have to take alot of them.

Then, some reporter who interviewed her like last week said she tried to kill herself in her swimming pool a month or so ago and her bodyguard, who is a paramedic, had to administer CPR.

This who thing is just so sad.

I think if people knew where she lived, they would be bringing flowers there a la Diana, though she was no Diana.

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Also, why would they need her DNA for the paternity. We know the daughter is her daughter?

Yes, of course. But chances are that if it were a deliberate OD, pills would have been found in the stomach, or at least traces of medication - even if she had vomitted. And I don't get the DNA thing either. Something's not right here.....

GODDESS6 · #**156** 02-09-2007, 04:39 PM

about the dna thing w/ anna & her daughter, court tv reported that larry birkhead's lawyer requested it so that they know the baby that is being tested is indeed anna's, they alluded to the fact that they thought people, mainly howard, in her camp would pull a bait & switch w/ the baby~ how sad this all is

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Livia · #**157** 02-09-2007, 04:51 PM

Regardless of what is or isn't in her stomach, it would still be in her blood. We'll know soon enough.

Good on Birkhead's camp - that was smart. I believe he IS the father. Have you seen the baby? She is gorgeous! Either she inherited ALL of her mama's good genes or there ain't one speck of Howard's DNA in that child.

Keeping Anna's body preserved is creepy. Is James Brown still on ice?

danax6 · #**158** 02-09-2007, 04:55 PM

I'm confused, if it wasn't drugs or pills or anything, then what did she die of?

skcin · #**159** 02-09-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Regardless of what is or isn't in her stomach, it would still be in her blood. We'll know soon enough.

Good on Birkhead's camp - that was smart. I believe he IS the father. Have you seen the baby? She is gorgeous! Either she inherited ALL of her mama's good genes or there ain't one speck of Howard's DNA in that child.

Keeping Anna's body preserved is creepy. Is James Brown still on ice?

Yes but in theory, if it were an OD & she took a lot of pills at once, she would have died quickly enough that there would still be pills or traces of them in the stomach.

That does NOT rule out the theory that she had a drug interaction though. Perhaps one of her meds wasn't good with another. Apparently there were several bottles of antibiotics (and other meds) in the room in Stern's name. Dunno why you'd need so many antibiotics. Ad who the hell knows what's really in that Trimspa ****.

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Originally Posted by danax6

I'm confused, if it wasn't drugs or pills or anything, then what did she die of?

I personally think either her heart gave out due to a combination of major rapid weight fluctuations and drug use (prescription) over the years.

Or it may have to do with her slipping & falling & banging her head in the bathtub the day before. Brain hemmorhage or something. Just me theorizing.

Livia · #**160** 02-09-2007, 05:02 PM

I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread or not - but besides the fever and the cold/flu symptoms - she slipped and fell in the tub (possibly hitting her head) and she told everyone that she was fine.

I'm thinking even without any drugs, she could have had a slight concussion and brain swelling, that only worsened w/ each hour. When she took a nap yesterday, that was that.

Edit: ^^^ What Paula just said before I finished...that's why hospitals tend to keep people w/ head injuries overnight, for observation.

Sugar · #**161** 02-09-2007, 05:05 PM

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Think if they made a giant one of these angora bunnies.

I don't wanna be the one to have to vacuum it.

Sugar · #**162** 02-09-2007, 05:12 PM

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Brace yourselves:

MSNBC reportiong that Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband...

yes...

Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband is claiming he is Anna Nicole's baby daddy.

I saw this at work today. Unbelievable. I couldn't even bring myself to click on the link. All I could think was, "What are you f*cking kidding me with this?"

Still just unbelievable. You can't write this ****.

HejiraNYC · #**163** 02-09-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread or not - but besides the fever and the cold/flu symptoms - she slipped and fell in the tub (possibly hitting her head) and she told everyone that she was fine.

I'm thinking even without any drugs, she could have had a slight concussion and brain swelling, that only worsened w/ each hour. When she took a nap yesterday, that was that.

Edit: ^^^ What Paula just said before I finished...that's why hospitals tend to keep people w/ head injuries overnight, for observation.

That is an interesting angle. Without being a forensic scientist, I cannot say for certain, but I wonder if it is customary to do a brain scan or MRI as part of an autopsy. It would be very easy to tell whether she had some kind of hemorrhage or ischemic event if that was the case.

The thing about Valium (and other benzodiazepenes) is that it is really supposed to be used as a muscle relaxant or for anxiety. It's not for sleep, as popularly assumed, although it is often prescribed for that. As a muscle relaxant, in excessively high doses, Valium will repress the breathing reflex, which means that you will stop breathing in your sleep. Valium is also a very, very tiny pill that would be dissolved very quickly. Therefore, I'm not surprised that the examiner could not find visual traces of it.

Some classes of antibiotics have cardiac affects (QTc prolongation, Torsades, etc.), and may interact with other drugs, which would increase the levels in the blood of all drugs, even if an appropriate dosage is taken. This could have led to a heart attack. Because many newer antibiotics are taken once per day, if she took the medication in the morning, it may have been absorbed fully into her system by the time she died. For all we know, she could have taken a double dose of antibiotic because she felt so rotten, or because she wanted to make up for a skipped dose.

I would also imagine that she must have been on some kind of an antidepressant due to all of the stuff going on. Again, more potential drug interaction.

I think the fact that the drug bottles all had Howard K. Stern's name on it is very telling

. These meds have obviously not been taken under the watchful eye of a single physician.

Livia · #**164** 02-09-2007, 05:44 PM

Trim Spa had to stop using ephedrine after the FDA banned it. But the version ANS used DID have ephedrine. Makes me wonder how that may have weakened her heart.

estranged4life · #**165** 02-09-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

That is an interesting angle. Without being a forensic scientist, I cannot say for certain, but I wonder if it is customary to do a brain scan or MRI as part of an autopsy. It would be very easy to tell whether she had some kind of hemorrhage or ischemic event if that was the case.

can be done but usually it is not customary unless to determine if the brain died from an event, but it would need be performed before the removal of the brain or the autopsy (That is if removal of the brain/cranial contents was requested prior to the autopsy).