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[Johnny Stew]

The White Winged Dove Tour, Nov. 28th, 1981 - Dec. 13th, 1981

Waddy Wachtel ~ guitar
Bob Glaub ~ bass
Roy Bittan ~ piano
Benmont Tench ~ keyboards & synthesizer
Russ Kunkel ~ drums
Bobbye Hall ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Lori Perry ~ backing vocals

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The Wild Heart Tour, June 21st, 1983 - Nov. 24th, 1983

Waddy Wachtel ~ guitar
Wizard ~ bass
Roy Bittan ~ piano
Benmont Tench ~ keyboards & synthesizer
Liberty DeVito ~ drums
Bobbye Hall ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Lori Perry ~ backing vocals

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Rock A Little Tour, April 11th, 1986 - October 6th, 1986

Waddy Wachtel ~ guitar
Jennifer Condos ~ bass
Jai Winding ~ keyboards
Robert Martin ~ keyboards & horns
Rick Marotta ~ drums
Bobbye Hall ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Lori Perry ~ backing vocals
Elisecia Wright ~ backing vocals

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The Other Side Of The Mirror Tour, Aug. 16th, 1989 - Nov. 27th, 1989

Carlos Rios ~ guitar
Don Boyette ~ bass
Christopher Cameron ~ keyboards
Robert Martin ~ keyboards & horns
Russ Kunkel ~ drums
Peter Michael ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Lori Perry-Nicks ~ backing vocals

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Whole Lotta Trouble Tour, July 9th, 1991 - Aug. 18th, 1991

Les Dudek ~ lead guitar
Michael Lennon ~ rhythm guitar
Mark Andes ~ bass
Cat Gray ~ keyboards
Eddie M. ~ keyboards & horns
Scott Crago ~ drums
Peter Michael ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Lynn Mabry ~ backing vocals

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Street Angel Tour, July 22nd, 1994 - Sept. 18th, 1994

Rick Vito ~ lead guitar
Carlos Rios ~ rhythm guitar
Don Boyette ~ bass
Dan Garfield ~ keyboards
Marty Grebb ~ organ & sax
Russ Kunkel ~ drums
Lenny Castro ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Sara Fleetwood ~ backing vocals
Liza Jane Edwards ~ backing vocals

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Enchanted Tour, May 27th, 1998 - August 8th, 1998

Frank Simes ~ lead guitar
Carlos Rios ~ rhythm guitar
Don Boyette ~ bass
Kevin Stoller ~ keyboards
Brett Tuggle ~ keyboards
Land Richards ~ drums
Lenny Castro ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Mindy Stein ~ backing vocals

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Millennium Concerts, Dec. 28th, 1999 - Jan. 9th, 2000

Frank Simes ~ lead guitar
Carlos Rios ~ rhythm guitar
Don Boyette ~ bass
Kevin Stoller ~ keyboards
Scott Plunkett ~ keyboards
Land Richards ~ drums
Daniel de los Reyes ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Mindy Stein ~ backing vocals

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Trouble In Shangri-La Tour, July 6th, 2001 - Oct. 10th, 2001

Waddy Wachtel ~ lead guitar
Carlos Rios ~ rhythm guitar
Al Ortiz ~ bass
Brett Tuggle ~ keyboards
Scott Plunkett ~ keyboards
Mark Schulman ~ drums
Lenny Castro ~ percussion
Sharon Celani ~ backing vocals
Mindy Stein ~ backing vocals
Sheryl Crow ~ guitar/vocals (***occasional appearances)

[wetcamelfood]

Thanks for that Johnny, that's a BIG help! Now we just gotta get LB's OOTC live lineup from somewhere, it figures, I used to have it listed somewhere but can't find it anywhere now. Johnny? Anyone?

In the meantime, here's Bob Welch's "post" FM stuff for reference. Now, I've listed what I could again but had to go by albums in most cases and I've listed questions where appropriate.

Group: Paris
Time line: 1/75-6/76
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Glenn Cornick (bass/keyboards), Thom Mooney (drums)

Group: Paris
Time line: 7/76-12/76
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Glenn Cornick (bass/keyboards), Hunt Sales (drums)

(I just had to guess on the dates as to not leave a "gap" from him leaving FM, I had the "start date" be 1/75 and as the "Big towne 2061" album was released in 8-9/76 (I think) it must have taken them at least a month to record that album (probably longer though) but for now, I just put 6/76 for Paris mark one as ending and 7/76 as Paris mark two as beginning and once again, I couldn't find clear info as to when Paris actually fell apart so I had to "guess" with 12/76 as their "death" unless someone has better info on this (hopefully?!)

Group: (Bob Welch band)
Time line: 1/77-12/78
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Todd Sharp (gtr)

Can anyone tell from the "Cal Jam 2" video clip who ELSE was in Bob's band at this time BESIDES TS? Welch has stated in shows like the Roxy one that Alvin Taylor has been with him "since 1976" and although Taylor does play on the FK album, that is obviously not him at Cal Jam 2 so any further additions to this would be great but I can't tell from my copy. Once again, I had to "guess" on these dates. Anyone have any Welch tour dates from this time frame or anything that would give us a better idea on how long this was for?

Group: (Bob Welch band)
Time line: 1/79-6/79
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Todd Sharp (gtr), Alvin Taylor (drums), David Adelstein (keyboards), Steve Foreman (percussion)

I had to go by the "Three hearts" credits for this so this can't be right or at least, not complete as the album lists Welch as playing "bass" on the album (in addition to gtr, etc.) and although possible, it's unlikely that he played bass on the tour. Anyone know? Due to this, I "guessed" on the dates as well going by when I understood these albums to be released allowing a short space of time for recording etc.

Group: (Bob Welch band)
Time line: 7/79-8/80
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Todd Sharp (gtr), Donny Francisco (drums), David Adelstein (keyboards), Brad Palmer (bass)

(went by "The other one" album credits, "guessed" on dates etc.)

Group: (Bob Welch band)
Time line: 9/80-12/80
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Todd Sharp (gtr), Alvin Taylor (drums), David Adelstein (keyboards), Al Bran (bass)

I went by the "Man overboard" album credits for this one. Now, Donny Francisco did backing vocals & harmonies on MO but I would guess that he didn't "tour" for MO becauae of this "minimal" contribution though I could be wrong. Anyone? Also, Welch played bass himself on 3 songs on MO but this Al Bran is listed as playing bass on 4 songs on the album and it doesn't even list who else plays bass on the other songs so this is one of those "common denominator" deals. Anyone have any further/better info on this though? Had to "guess" on dates per usual.

Group: (Bob Welch band)
Time line: 1/81-12/82
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Joey Brasler (gtr), Alvin Taylor (drums), David Adelstein (keyboards), Robin Sylvester (bass), Robbie Patton (persussion)

I went by the "Bob Welch & friends live at the Roxy" video & Bob's selftitled 1981 RCA album for this info though I know the dates can't be right as I assume Patton must have done his own tours for DS & OFH. Perhaps he was just counted as one of the 'friends" on this show and not part of the band? I wasn't sure whether he was "in the band" or not since he is listed as being on the RCA album. Anyone know?

Group: (Bob Welch band)
Time line: 1/83-12/83
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Jeff Baxter (gtr), Ed Greene (drums), James Ehinger (keyboards), Nathan East (bass)

Once again, "guessed" on dates, went by what musicians WERE listed on "Eye contact" though it states that Greene, Ehinger & East are only on a few songs as it is. Anyone have better info on this time?

Group: Avenue M
Time line: 1/91-6/91
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Dave Gambrel (gtr), Bob Milan (drums), Fred Robinson (gtr), Glen De Jongh (gtr), Fred Yates (bass)

Group: Avenue M
Time line: 7/91-12/91
Members: Welch (voc/gtr), Dave Gambrel (gtr), Bob Milan (drums), Fred Robinson (gtr), Glen De Jongh (gtr), Kevin Ichrist (bass)

Again, I had to "guess" on the dates, especially where "mark one" was concerned since it was at Welch's Q & A I found out about Yates being replaced in favor of Ichrist etc. Anyone have better info on this?

I must end this with 2 questions:

1. Welch said in his Q & A that a band he played with called Touch included him, Brian Wild on vocals, Dallas Taylor on drums & John Schayer on bass. However, he didn't say when this was. Anyone know?

2. Bob also mentioned in his Q & A when asked as to who else played on "...Looks at bop" that it contained "a cast of thousands due to modern technology etc." I don't even know if there was a tour for that album or not but if so, does anyone know who was on it (etc.)?

I may just have to go by the albums on Mason, Burnette, Vito etc. when that time comes but I'll wait until someone can post the LB OOTC tour details before I go in to all of that.

John

[chiliD]

The band that recorded "The Other One" is the road band Welch had since "French Kiss".


Lindsey's OotC tour band:
Steve Ross-guitar
Neale Haywood-guitar
Janet Robin-guitar
Lisa Carbe-guitar
Fredrico Pol-bass
Chad Wackerman-"drums"
Michael Tempo-percussion
Dan Garfield-keyboards
there was a second percussionist but I've forgotten his name

[wetcamelfood]

OK, now that the LB info is there I'll go and add Billy, Rick, Dave M & Bekka (as best I can) here in that order. I'll do them in seperate posts so the stuff should be easier to find for later.

While I think of it though, when doing Johm Mcvie earlier, I forgot about the Bluesbreakers "reunion" tour in (I think it was...) the summer of '82 (for further info, see the "Jammin' with the blues greats" DVD (originally on VHS as "Blues alive")) so I don't know if you want that to be a "sideways branch" or what but it was him on bass of course and Mayall on keys, Colin Allen on drums and Mick Taylor on guitar. So whatever you think is fine with me, just thought I'd point it out to cover as many bases as possible.

I'll go and start with Billy below now. I'll warn you though, I've got a lot of questions/plot holes etc. on ALL of these guys that we'll need to figure out, nothing new I guess after all!

John

[Johnny Stew]

Hey John... maybe we could contact Michele and see if she can fill in any of the blanks you might have regarding Billy's info?



Johnny Stew

[wetcamelfood]

As per usual, I just went by albums etc. for the most part, oh well, you know all of that, I'll get on with it...

(1966? suppossedly was a part of Brenda Lee's band for a "far eastern" tour but don't know anything beyond this. Also, apparently worked in Dorsey Burnette's (solo) band but don't know when or anything. OOH how I wish I was at the Penguin when Billy did his Q & A here! Anyone?)

I don't know the personnel for his early singles that I have like the "Billy Beau" billed one "Hey daddy (I'm gonna tell Santa on you)" b/w "Santa's coffee" and the 67-69 circa one under his real name, "Frog prince" b/w "One extreme to the other". I doubt there were "tours" for these anyways but whatever.

There's no musician credits on the copy I have of his selftitled album on Entrance from 1972 either so can't add anything to that.

I still haven't been able to ascertain if the "Bill Burnett" that played bass in the band called "Blue Jug" which had a selftitled album out in 1975 on Capricorn is OUR Billy or not. Though the album was co-produced by Larry Henley (who Billy was in cahoots with for a few years in regards to songwriting etc.) none of the songs on the record were written by Billy which would seem very strange for a writer of the stature for which he is known etc. It's definately not Billy singing leads on the album and it's tough to tell from the backups if it's him on there either. There are six people on the cover and only five listed as being in the "band" on the credits and it really is hard to tell from the picture if Billy is any of them! I can try and post a scan of the picture here to see if you can find Billy on it or not. If it's of any help, other than listing that this "Bill Burnett" plays bass, it lists Ed Ratzeloff on gtr/voc (and he is listed as the writer of all songs except he co-wrote one with Bill Little and Bill Little wrote one on his own). Speaking of Bill Little, he is listed next as keyboards, Clint DeLong is listed next as gtr/voc and "Mac" Paul Walkley is on drums. Anyone have better info on this at all? I don't know what we should think on this one.

To confuse matters, I have a single from 1976 called "Just another love song" (it's a promo so that's on both sides though I'm looking for a commercial copy which apparently has a song on the B-side called "Baby" if anyone has it, let me know and we'll talk!) and it's credited as being by "Billy Burnett & Jawbone". Note the missing "e" again but if you ever get to listen to it, it is DEFINATELY our Billy and he wrote the song with Delaney Bramlett. Once again though, no other details available on this "band" at all. Anyone (again)?

On Billy's selftitled 1979 Polydor album, it lists many musicians but it doesn't say which songs they are on so I can do the "common denominator" deal that I have been doing with the albums that do say which songs everyone is on etc. I'm more than happy to list them all here for you but I don't want to make things more of a mess then they already are for Billy's branch. Let me know. Sing along and follow the bouncing ball... anyone else know anything about this?!

Of the musicians listed on Billy's "Between friends" album, the ones that I would imagine "could" be in the "core band" include 4 other guitar players BESIDES Billy, 2 keys players, 2 bass, 1 drum & 1 percussion so once again as they don't break it down by song, I can't say which ones were more "popular" than others. Anyone else know anything about this time frame for Billy's live work?

Group: (Billy Burnette band)
Time line: 7/80-12/80?
Members: Billy (voc/gtr), Kimmie Gardner (bass), Chris Brosius (gtr), Ian Wallace (drums)

With Billy's selftitled 1980 Columbia record, there FINALLY seems to be a "band" feeling going on. YAY! I just guessed that as he was with Polydor in early '80 (for "Between friends"), I just put 7/80-12/80 for the dates though it's probably wrong, anyone else?!

Group: (Billy Burnette band)
Time line: 1/81-12/82
Members: Billy (voc/gtr), Jimmy Johnson (gtr), Philip Donnelly (gtr), Wayne Perkins (gtr), Duncan Cameron (gtr), David Hood (bass), Roger Hawkins (drums), Barry Beckett (keyboards)

(I wasn't going to list this as I doubt that Billy took 4 gtr players on the road with him so it's a "take your pick" deal I guess, I'm just showing you that sadly, this was one of the more easy ones to attempt to discect! I doubt the dates are right either, oh boy!)

(then joined Mick Fleetwood's Zoo, Christine Mcvie band etc. (WAS he in CM's band? I wasn't sure if he was just a "special guest" according to what CM says on the "Video album" videotape etc. or not or what))

Billy's "Try me" album lists 3 OTHER gtr players, 1 keyboard player, 3 bass players and 2 drummers. One of the two drummers is Mick so I doubt he was on tour with Billy at that time if ever (as a solo artist that is) but even if we assume it was the other guy and the keys guy, that still leaves us in a dillema about the bass and gtr seats. GRR! Anyone...? (I'm gonna fall asleep saying these words!)

Group: (Billy Burnette band)
Time line: 1/86-6/87
Members: Billy (voc/gtr), Billy Joe Walker Jr. (gtr), Michael Lawler (keyboards), Paul Leim (drums), Spady Brannan (bass)

Once again, I went by this lineup from his "Soldier of love" album so I don't know how correct it is if at all and I'm sure I've got a videotape kicking around somewhere of the Zoo (w/Billy) on "Rock Palace" in 1986 (and yes, I do have the RP videotape performance fron 1984 of the Zoo but this one has them doing newer Billy tunes (at the time) like "Get an education", "Guitar bug" etc.) so I doubt BB's solo tour lasted as long as I have it down for here due to this if nothing else anyways. Anyone?

(then joined FM...)

Billy's "Coming home" album lists 2 bass, 2 keys etc. etc. etc.) Anyone?

(then "rejoined" FM, then after "Time"...)

Group: Bekka & Billy
Time line: Bekka (voc), Billy (voc/gtr), Todd Sharp (gtr), Eddie Bayers (drums), Dave Pomeroy (bass), Steve Nathan (keyboards)

(I know the time line on this can't be right as I've got a video tape of Bekka on tour with Billy Joel (& Elton John) in Japan in 3/98 so change things how you will and I know TS was on gtr on their "Prime time country" appearance but I couldn't tell who else there was. I just went with the common denominators on the rest which are probably wrong anyways because there was a female fiddle player on the PTC show and there isn't a female fiddle player listed anywhere on the CD so...Anyone?)

Group: Billy Burnette band)
Time line: 1/99-12/99
Members: Billy (voc/gtr), David Roe (bass), Ian Wallace (drums), J.T. Corenflos (gtr)

I just used the "All night long" album credits on this one. Anyone?

Group: (Billy Burnette band)
Time line: 1/00- (present?)
Members: Billy (voc/gtr), David Roe (bass), Ian Wallace (drums), Kenny Vaughan (gtr)

I just used the "Are you with me baby" album credits. Anyone?

I skipped soundtrack/single only songs personnel and the like to not mess things up any more. Sorry I coudn't get better info, I'll keep digging though. At least it gives us some topics to hash around. Next up is Rick.

John

[wetcamelfood]

Hi Johnny Stew, I just saw your post, yeah I hope Michele sees this and can add things as it looks like we'll need it! ANY help from ANYONE would be great!

John

[David]

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
then joined Mick Fleetwood's Zoo, Christine Mcvie band etc. (WAS he in CM's band? I wasn't sure if he was just a "special guest" according to what CM says on the "Video album" videotape etc. or not or what)

That show with Christine was just a guest appearance; it was about four months before her tour actually started.

If you add Billy to Christine's band as a guest, you probably want to add some of the people who played for Stevie on numerous shows even though they weren't part of the core band, like Mick Fleetwood in 1986 (who played congas at all the shows out west), Marilyn Martin & Carolyn Brooks & Bill Payne in 1983, & Waddy Wachtel in 1994.

For Johnny Stew: The Bella Donna tour started Nov. 28. I think that notation for the 27th is just a flub.

[wetcamelfood]

I know some of these "entries" will be real lame but I just figured I'd get it all down and in case the little tidbits sparks someone's memory or something...

1963 Rick was in a group called "Johnny & the Inspirations" don't know anything else, anyone?

Between 67-70 Rick was in bands called "The matrix", The Wright Brothers" and the "Vito-Valenti Blues band" but that's all I got. Anyone else?

Somewhere within 1971-72, Rick played in Delaney & Bonnie (Bramlett)'s band. Anyone have anything more concrete?

I assume he played live with Bobby Whitlock in '72 as he is listed as being in the "band" on the "Raw velvet" album along with Whitlock (voc/keyboards/gtr), Keith Ellis (bass) & Don Poncher (drums) but does anyone know for sure?

Within 1973-74 Rick may have been in a band of an artist I have an album by called "All I see is you" and his name was Rabindra (his full name was Rabindra Danks) as Rick is on this album (it looks like) in a big way but it's hard to make a "core" band out of the musicians listed on the album (see Billy's entry for the kinds of problems I mean!) During this time I know he toured with Dobie Gray & Little Richard (and possibly John Prine, but that's just a guess based on RV's heavy involvement with JP's "Common sense" album). Can anyone clear any of this up?

I don't know if this is the correct chronological place to put this or not but as long as I'm spouting off, John "Juke" Logan had a "band" called the "Juke Rhythm Band" which Rick appears to have been in according to JL's 1998 CD "Juke Rhythm" as there is a picture from 1975 of the JRB including Rick but the caption says that the album was a "20 year in studio reunion of the JRB" 1998 minus 20 years = 1978? Anyone?

Group: (John Mayall band)
Timeline: 1/75-6/76
Members: RV (gtr), John Mayall (gtr/harmonica/keyboards), Dee Mckinnie (voc), Soko Richardson (drums), Larry Taylor (bass), Jay Spell (keyboards), Don Harris (violin)

Group: (John Mayall band)
Timeline: 7/76-12/76
Members: RV (gtr), John Mayall (gtr/harmonica/keyboards), Dee Mckinnie (voc), Ron Mccurdy (drums), Larry Taylor (bass), Jay Spell (keyboards), Don Harris (violin)

(I used common denominators on the "New year new band new company" & "Notice to appear" albums and guessed as to when the proposed "exit" of Richardson was (as Mccurdy played on more songs from the "A banquet in blues" album in late '76)

Group: Roger Mcguinn's Thunderbyrd
Timeline: 1/77-6/77
Members: RV (gtr), Roger Mcguinn (voc/gtr), Greg Thomas (drums), Charlie Harrison (bass)

(guessed on dates but I do have a live CD (from a 4/77 show) and videotape (from a 2/77 show) of them in England & Germany (respectively) and RMT is how they were being billed)

Between 7/77 (let's say) and 12/78 Rick toured with Bonnie Raitt as I heard a live show a long time ago from this tour and Rick was definately on it but I don't know how long this tour was for though. I doubt it was for the time frame I've said! Anyone?

Group: (John Mayall band)
Time line: 1/79-12/79
Members: RV (gtr), John Mayall (gtr/harmonica/keyboards), James Quill Smith (gtr), Chris Cameron (keyboards), Christiaan Mostert (sax/flute), Angus Thomas (bass), Ruben Alvarez (drums), Maggie Parker (voc)

(went by the "No more interviews" album credits and guessed on dates. Anyone?)

Between 1/80 (let's say) and 6/82(?) Rick toured again with Bonnie Raitt. DEFINATELY on her "The glow" tour (as I heard yet another live show from this tour and he was announced etc.) and maybe again on her "Green light" tour. Strange in that he doesn't play on TG but does play on 4 songs from GL. He is not listed as being in the "bump band" on Bonnie's GL album though so who knows, anyone?

Group: (Jackson Browne band)
Time line: 7/82-12/83
Members: RV (gtr), Jackson Browne (voc/gtr), Doug Haywood (keyboards), Craig Doerge (keyboards), Bob Glaub (bass), Russ Kunkel (drums), Danny Kortchmar (gtr)

Both keys players were listed as being in the core band as the guest musicians from the "Lawyers in love" album are listed seperate from the "band" members so I guess we'll have to assume both were in there. Kortchmar is not listed on the "Lawyers in love" core band but he is on the "Downtown" videotape footage I have and played on "Somebody's baby" which must have been summer '82 at latest that SB was recorded. Was Kunkel on SN's WH tour? oops, I meant to check Johnny Stew's listing before posting this. Maybe we can figure from that when the Browne tour would've been (by default) as I had to guess on these dates again. I know the record RV recorded with Thelma Houston was done in '82 (but it was never released) if that helps narrow things down. Anyone?

Group: (Rita Coolidge band)
Time line: 1/84-12/85
Members: RV (gtr), Rita Coolidge (voc), Josh Leo (gtr), Mike Utley (keyboards), Kurtis Teel (bass), Thom Mooney (drums)

I guessed on the dates and I know it can't have been this long as Rick did other sessions during '84 and was in the TV movie "Jealousy" etc. so do what you will with these dates. I just used the common denominators from Rita's "Inside the fire" album for this listing as well. Anyone?

Group: Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band
Time line: 1/86-7/87
Members: RV (gtr), Bob Seger (voc), Chris Campbell (bass), Craig Frost (keyboards), Don Brewer (drums), Alto Reed (sax), Fred Tackett (gtr), Dawayne Bailey (gtr)

I know that's a lot of gtr players but I heard a live Seger show from this time and when introducing everbody, Bob listed a bunch of guitar players before FINALLY getting to Rick and I used the common denominators on the 'Like a rock" album for this. Tackett was not on the album much but I do remember Seger introducing him on the live show from that time. Anyone?

(then joined FM...)

I can list who played on "King of hearts" if you want here but Rick played bass and gtr on many of the songs so I don't think we'd get a common denominator bass player there and I don't think there was a tour for that album anyways, was there anyone?

(then joined SN band...)

(95-96 spent with family)

('97 spent recording "Pink & black")

Group: (Bonnie Raitt band)
Time line: 4/98-12/98
Members: RV (gtr), Bonnie Raitt (voc/gtr), Ricky Fatar (drums), Hutch Hutchinson (bass), Jon Cleary (keyboards)

Guessed on dates, got info from the V/A compilation "Lilith fair: A celebration of women in music - Volume 3" CD which has a live BR song from this tour. RV was NOT on the "Fundamental" album though. Anyone with better dates on this? In addition to VH1's "Storytellers", Bonnie (w/RV) was on Leno, Letterman, Rosie O'Donnell, Conan O'Brien & Oprah from this time if that helps figure out for dates etc. Anyone?

Was there a "Pink & black" tour in 1999? Anyone?

Group: Rick Vito & The Lucky Devils
Time line: 1/00-4/00
Members: RV (voc/gtr), Tommy Kay (gtr), Jimmy Dejulio (drums), Paul Egman (bass) (I think that's his last name, I watched my copy of the 4/00 German TV show "Ohne filter" and couldn't really hear what his name was, something like that! Sorry!) Anyone?

In the "summer" of '01 Rick toured with John Fogarty but don't know who else was in the band or the dates etc. Anyone?

('01 was apparently spent recording most of the year)

from 1/02 (to present?) Rick has gone to Germany twice to play live. With him is Rick Reed on drums and Charlie Harrison on bass but I don't know if there's anyone else for a "mandatory fourth" member or if they are just a trio. Anyone?

I'll keep digging for better info on him but maybe in the meantime some one can plug up the holes? That's all I've got on RV for now anyways. Next up, Dave Mason. I'll have to finish this tomorrow or possibly in a few days though. See ya then!

John

[Johnny Stew]

David... thanks for catching that!
I've made the correction to my original post.



Johnny Stew

[bjk3047]

Originally posted by chiliD
Lindsey's OotC tour band:
Steve Ross-guitar
Neale Haywood-guitar
Janet Robin-guitar
Lisa Carbe-guitar
Fredrico Pol-bass
Chad Wackerman-"drums"
Michael Tempo-percussion
Dan Garfield-keyboards

Two quick questions:
1) Who was on vocals as well?
2) If one were to pull two names from the guitar category for the tree, which would be the most important? (I don't really want to exceed 6 entries in one band, I'd think it's a bit overboard...am I right?)

Brian - SN bands look great! I should get them done by Weds at the latest.

David - You're right on the money reagrding Billy in CMV's band, and I think it would be good to stay away from guest appearences with the exception of possibly Sheryl Crow on SN's TISL tour (dotted line a la Peter Green).
She would qualify as a band member after actively participating in a good half of the shows, right?

John - In refernce to JMV's "sideways line" for the JM reunion tour, I think that's what's going to have to happen for SN, MF and CMV's solo tours. SPEAKING of which! Before we jump the gun on Billy and the others from 90's FM, we need MF and CMV solo tour lineups to get in there. Who's got 'em?

-Brian

[Johnny Stew]

Well, with all due respect to Ms. Carbe and Ms. Robin, I think Steve Ross and Neale Heywood are probably the two that are absolutely essential to include... because they have other connections to the band and its members.

But that's just my two cents.



Johnny Stew

[wetcamelfood]

Regarding MF "solo" for "the side", I listed these earlier in the thread:

Group: (Mick Fleetwood Band)
Time line: 1981?
Members: MF (drums), George Hawkins (bass/voc), Todd Sharp (gtr/voc), Lord Tiki (congas)

Group: Mick Fleetwood's Zoo
Time Line: 1983?
Members: MF (drums), George Hawkins (bass/voc), Steve Ross (gtr/voc), Billy Burnette (gtr/voc)

Group: The Zoo
Time Line: 1992?
Members: MF (drums), Bekka Bramlett (voc), Billy Thorpe (gtr/voc), Gregg Wright (gtr), Tom Lilly (bass), Brett Tuggle (keyboards)

These are just from the albums, the '81 stuff is backed up (mostly) by the "Visitor" CED laserdisc video documentary deal about the project. The '83 stuff is backed up by the fact that the Zoo's TV performances of the time "Thicke of the night", "Rock palace", SNL etc.) had the same lineup. Same as well for the '92 Zoo from the "Dennis Miller" & 'Arsenio" clips. However, shows like A & E's "Inside track" from 1990 (when MF was promoting his book) had the Zoo playin' some tunes and Todd Sharp was there (I presume in place of Steve Ross?) but I don't know if we should get in to those "confusing" areas with these guys too or not. Whatever you think.

CM's solo band from '84 was George Hawkins (bass), Todd Sharp (gtr) & Steve Ferrone (drums).

Sorry for the miscommunication. I only "forged ahead" with Billy, Rick etc. as you had said I "had the green light" to post their stuff once the SN & LB stuff was posted and it seemed straightforward enough (to me) when it was (as I didn't know about not wanting to have more than 6 in a lineup etc.). Also, as it was mainly there for "referring to" I figured I'd just get it all down and then we could iron out any details on the members in question before an entry is made to the tree.

So, since I have a few minutes free now (earlier than I thought I would) and I don't have much left to post now anyways (just DM & (what I can on...) Bekka), I'm just gonna put that stuff in now so it will simply leave the ironing out to finish off in this "long time tired" thread (as you had stated)! OK? So here comes Dave M's stuff...

John

[David]

Originally posted by bjk3047
Before we jump the gun on Billy and the others from 90's FM, we need MF and CMV solo tour lineups to get in there. Who's got 'em?

1984 Christine Solo Tour

Christine McVie, keyboards
Eddy/Eddie Quintela, keyboards
Todd Sharp, guitar
George Hawkins, bass
Steve Ferrone, drums
(possibly Stephen Bruton on some dates)


I think the membership in the Zoo was revolving door through the years. It would be tough to track every last player unless you happened to see every last show. At the 1983 UCLA Rock & Run charity benefit, the Zoo was Mick Fleetwood (drums), Billy Burnette (vocals/guitars), George Hawkins (bass), Steve Ross (guitars) & Stevie Nicks (vocals).

For the 1992 "Shakin' the Cage" tour, the Zoo was Mick Fleetwood (drums), Billy Thorpe (vocals/guitars), Bekka Bramlett (vocals), Billy Burnette (vocals/guitars), Gregg Wright (guitars), Tom Lilly (bass) & Brett Tuggle (keyboards).

[wetcamelfood]

He's a little more straightforward but I asked around the DM community for more accurate TOURING personnel info but got no responses so I had to go mainly from the albums (from some of the DM videos I DO have, it's hard to tell who some of these guys are) so at least this should be a start anyways Had to guess on many dates due to album release dates etc. as you know and I keep saying but I just figured I'd say it here so I don't have to retype it after every lineup/album! You'll know it applies in virtually every case. Hopefully someone can provide better info than this for us soon.

Group: The Jaguars
Time line: 1961-1963
Members: DM (gtr), Mick Mann (gtr), Dennis Morgan (bass), Roger Moss (drums)

(they had 2 singles, the first (which I do have) was released in '63 but the much harder to find second one was apparently released in '65 but I don't know if that's correct or not)

Group: The Hellions
Time line: 1964-1965
Members: DM (gtr), Jim Capaldi (voc/drums), Tony Hill (bass), Gordon Jackson (gtr)

(in '66 there has been some reports that DM had hung around and played in Capaldi's band at the time called Deep Feeling but he was not actually a member and regardless of what some reports claim, the 3 tracks recorded by DF were never released anyways. By all accounts most of '66 DM spent being a rodie for the Spencer Davis Group)

Group: Traffic
Time line: 1/67?-12/67 & 5/68-11/68
Members: DM (voc/gtr/bass), Steve Winwood (voc/keyboards/gtr), Jim Capaldi (voc/drums), Chris Wood (sax/flute)

(DM left Traffic in 12/67 but returned in 5/68. During 12/67-5/68 he had recorded with Jimi Hendrix (Electric ladyland) & The Rolling Stones (Beggars banquet) etc.

Group: Mason Capaldi Wood & Frog
Time line: 12/68-6/69?
Members: DM (gtr), Jim Capaldi (drums), Chris Wood (sax/flute), Mick Weaver (AKA "Wynder K. Frog") (keyboards)

(this short lived group never recorded though one BBC "transcription disc" has apparently floated around. I do know that they were the opening act for the Jimi Hendrix Experience gig at London's Albert Hall on 2/24/69 if that's of any help but I had to kind of guess on the dates to "fill in the gaps")

Group: Delaney & Bonnie (Bramlett) & Friends
Time line: 7/69-11/69
Members: DM (gtr), Delaney Bramlett (voc/gtr), Bonnie Bramlett (voc), Leon Russell (gtr/keyboards), Bobby Whitlock (keyboards), Carl Radle (bass), Bobby Keys (sax), Jim Price (horns), Jim Keltner (drums), Rita Coolidge (backing voc)

(I had to guess on the starting date and I'm assuming that this lineup ended in 11/69 due to the fact that I know Clapton joined in 12/69 (at the latest) for the "Coming home" single but DM has said that he was with the D & B band as the opening act for Blind Faith on thier one and only tour (which I understand was in the summer of '69 so it may very well have started before 7/69 but I just couldn't find anything so I just guessed 7/69. Change it how you will! )

Group: Delaney & Bonnie (Bramlett) & Friends
Time line: 12/69-3/70
Members: DM (gtr), Delaney Bramlett (voc/gtr), Bonnie Bramlett (voc), Leon Russell (gtr/keyboards), Bobby Whitlock (keyboards), Carl Radle (bass), Bobby Keys (sax), Jim Price (horns), Jim Gordon (drums), Rita Coolidge (backing voc), Eric Clapton (gtr), Tex Johnson (percussion)

Group: Derek & The Dominoes
Time line: (one gig, 6/14/70)
Members: DM (gtr), Bobby Whitlock (keyboards), Carl Radle (bass), Jim Gordon (drums), Eric Clapton (voc/gtr)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 4/70-6/70 & 6/70-8/70?
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Leon Russell (keyboards), Jim Capaldi (drums), John Simon (keyboards), Jim Keltner (drums), Jim Gordon (drums), Chris Etheridge (bass), Carl Radle (bass)

(I know, I know, too many keys, drums etc. but I just had to go by the "Alone together" album for this and can't find out anything about a tour, you'll know that this sentence will apply to all DM albums for the most part so I don't retype it after each one and I had to guess on the dates too, nothing new there either! )

Group: Dave Mason & Cass Elliot
Time line: 9/70-4/71
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Cass Elliot (voc), Paul Harris (keyboards), Bryan Garo (bass), Russ Kunkel (drums)

Group: Traffic
Time line: 5/71-7/71
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Steve Winwood (voc/keyboards/gtr), Jim Capaldi (voc/tam/drums), Chris Wood (sax/flute), Rick Grech (bass), Reebop Kwaku Baah (percussion), Jim Gordon (drums)

Yup, 2 drums again but this lineup only lasted 6 gigs, long enough to record the (great!) live album "Welcome to the canteen" and this was the personnel listed on it. It was not unusual for Capaldi to get up front on stage for percussives while others would play drums in later Traffic lineups (as evident on their "Live in Santa Monica 1972" videotape so this would probably be right enough)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 8/71-4/73
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Mark Jordan (keyboards), Lonnie Turner (bass), Rick Jaeger (drums)

(as DM was embroiled in a lengthy lawsuit wit Blue Thumb Records for most of 72-73 I doubt this line up actually lasted this long but I just put it down as such to plug up the gaps)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 5/73-10/74
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Mark Jordan (keyboards), Carl Radle (bass), Greg Reeves (bass), Jim Keltner (drums)

(these 2 bass players were listed on the same amount of songs from the "It's like you never left" album so take yer pick! )

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 11/74-8/75
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Mike Finnigan (keyboards), Bob Glaub (bass), Rick Jaeger (drums), Jim Krueger (gtr)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 9/75?
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Jai Winding (keyboards), Gerald Johnson (bass), Rick Jaeger (drums), Jim Krueger (gtr)

(this was the "main" lineup on Dave's "Split coconut" album which I think was released in Sep '75 but then the line up for the "Certified live" album which was recorded on the SC tour lists:...)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 10/75-6/78
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Mike Finnigan (keyboards), Gerald Johnson (bass), Rick Jaeger (drums), Jim Krueger (gtr)

(...and Finnigan sings lead on "Goin' down slow" from CL so there's no way it's a misprint or anything. This "lineup", by all accounts, also lasted throughout the "Let it flow" album, "Cal Jam 2" etc.)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 7/78-12/79
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Mark Stein (keyboards), Gerald Johnson (bass), Rick Jaeger (drums), Jim Krueger (gtr)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 1/80-12/80
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Mark Stein (keyboards), Bob Glaub (bass), Rick Jaeger (drums), Jim Krueger (gtr)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 1/81-12/86
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Jim Krueger (gtr)

(it was at this time that Dave did solely acoustic tours with Jim Krueger as a duo as evident on the "Live at Perkins palace" DVD (originally released as "Dave Mason In Concert" on VHS in 1981) I know it was for quite a few years but I don't think it was for this long as this was his "drug time" as well, staying at the Blue Whale etc. but I don't understand why in the "Bob Welch & friends live at the Roxy" show, BW introduces Mark Stein as being from "Dave Mason's band" as this show was most definately from 81/82? Maybe he meant that he WAS in DM's band? Well, whatever! )

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 1/87-6/87
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Larry Cohn (keyboards), Vernon Porter (bass), Bill Meeker (drums), Jim Krueger (gtr)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 7/87-12/89
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Chris Corss (keyboards), Wally Hustin (bass), Joe Bellia (drums), Gary Bruns (gtr)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 1/90-1993?
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Guy Dominick (keyboards), Walter Dziedzic (bass), Joe Bellia (drums), Mark Karan (gtr)

(then joined FM...)

(it was reported in 4/97 that DM was to join Ringo Starr's all stars band for a tour but he must have pulled out of it or something because I can't find any evidence that he was actually ever on this tour. Anyone?)

Group: (Dave Mason & Jim Capaldi band)
Time line: 1/98-12/00
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Steve Thoma (keyboards), Alex Drizos (bass), Jim Capaldi (drums)

(once again, I don't think this lasted this long either but I have to assume Capaldi was there in 2000 as (I assume) this lineup cut a new studio version of "(Roamin' through the gloamin with) 40,000 headmen" (as it is JC on vocals I think) for the otherwise live, (what is referred to in the DM community as the...) "2000 touring disc" that was recorded and sold solely at DM live shows and on line at the time)

Group: (Dave Mason band)
Time line: 1/01-(present?)
Members: DM (voc/gtr), Bobby Scumaci (keyboards), Rich Campbell (bass), Greg Babcock (drums), John Sambataro (gtr)

(this is the lineup on the new "Live at Sunrise" CD/DVD releases anyways).

I've mainly got stuff to run by you guys for what you want to do (if anything) about Bekka's "bands?" up next.

John