Reflections.... the best of Stevie Nicks

[TheWILDheart]

I really don't think this track list is lagit...

I don't think Stevie would allow a "best of" not to have BATB on it and we all know how picky she is about her live stuff. I don't think she'd have to versions of the same song on a "best of" or that many live songs on a "best of". It just doesn't seem to be Stevied at all. It just seems like some crazed fan has done what they think is a "great best of" and posted it as the actual one.

I hate Deep Dish version because it took an emotional song that had nothing wrong with in the first place and stuck a dance beat over it. HOW ANNOYING!!

[danax6]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Stevie's hitting those notes. Listen to it with headphones on.

Yes, for sure, without a doubt.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Have you ever heard what it sounds like when they try to pitch a deep voice up to a high note? You get The Chipmunks.
Not all the ProTools in the world can make THAT big of a pitch change and still make it sound natural.

Stevie's hitting those notes. Listen to it with headphones on.

This is true. And her voice does that thing that your voice does when you switch from falsetto into your comfortable range. ~Jason where are you I need help with this.~
Anyway, I really enjoy the newer version of dreams. Its atmosheric, and beat gives it a driving power to enhance her powerful words. It does not "replace" the original, and it never will, but still. I LOVE and ADORE the way she sings it. and yeah,I loved her "wild heart" voice, but I really like
"the NEW stevie voice too.,[B]NOW!!, yes, the year 2007[/B]. ,now!, not then, but NOW. if only for the fact that some of my friends still in highschool and some of my college friends who dj. are looking into stevie more now after hearing this. Again, THIS is what I hope the NEW best of acomplishes as well!

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by skcin

I agree. Dunno why, just something's not quite right.

If this does end up being the tracklist, I'm not really excited, but I'm not disappointed either. I'll buy it for sure. I do think B&TB should be on there in some way, shape or form though. Live with the orchestra was fab, I'm sure.

I would bet money that this tracklist is bogus. There are so many things that are not quite right with it, particularly the fact that one of Stevie's biggest solo hits, "Stand Back," is represented only in its live form, which, to my ears, has not been done live properly since 1983. Also, the DVD portion appears to be just a mishmash of arbitrary stuff. I mean, "Stevie artwork?" And a video from VH1 Storytellers?

And I find the voiceover commentary stuff hilarious, especially since we all know how much Mama hates to shoot videos. And what will be her commentary for the "Stand Back" video? "Well, we first shot this in Civil War costumes and I was like 'omigawd, I look so gross,' and then I thought the song was just screaming for a conveyor belt, so that's what we did. That conveyor belt was very special to me."

My prediction is that this set will try to set itself apart as THE definitive Stevie collection by including both her solo work as well as Fleetwood Mac (not Fleetwood Mac songs she performed solo live). I'm sure the legal logistics were mindboggling, but then again it's all on the same label. Plus, it's unlikely that FM will be putting out any more best of's in the near future since they already blew their load with TVBOFM.

[TheWILDheart]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

And I find the voiceover commentary stuff hilarious, especially since we all know how much Mama hates to shoot videos. And what will be her commentary for the "Stand Back" video? "Well, we first shot this in Civil War costumes and I was like 'omigawd, I look so gross,' and then I thought the song was just screaming for a conveyor belt, so that's what we did. That conveyor belt was very special to me."

LMAO!! sssssooooooo true!

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Plus, it's unlikely that FM will be putting out any more best of's in the near future since they already blew their load with TVBOFM.

Especially seeing as Greatest Hit's is going cheap EVERYWHERE! I agree i think it's bogus. I don't think Stevie would release a Best of without including BATB and I don't think she'd have Rhiannon on there OR edge twice...she'd either have live or studio..not both.

[UnwindedDreams]

[QUOTE=HejiraNYC;634917] There are so many things that are not quite right with it, particularly the fact that one of Stevie's biggest solo hits, "Stand Back," is represented only in its live form, which, to my ears, has not been done live properly since 1983.
[QUOTE] Have you seen Live In Boston...it totally kicks ass and I believe was done properly

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Stevie's hitting those notes. Listen to it with headphones on.

Originally Posted by danax6

Yes, for sure, without a doubt.

Originally Posted by Phoenix

This is true. And her voice does that thing that your voice does when you switch from falsetto into your comfortable range. ~Jason where are you I need help with this.~

anymore questions?

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

I like this

Me too. I wasn't expecting much but this is much better than what I thought it was going to be like. I never thought we'd get any new tracks, so live versions and a DVD instead sounds pretty good to me.

[RockALittle250]

When this info was first posted on the Seven Wonders board i had posted:

RockALittle250 - "Wait a minute...how do we know how reliable this person is. Remember the last time the "tracklisting" leaked out and there was no truth to it. Lets not jump the gun."

Then the guy who posted the original info responded to me:

cooprocksalittle- "I figure I am pretty reliable considering all of this information comes from where I work. HMV as a store manager. My post is a direct email from Warner Music Canada. It is also quite cautious in saying that all tracks are not confirmed but this is happening. And it makes total sense to finally have a Stevie compilation with Fleetwood Mac stuff on it and it was quite public that the Melbourne shows were recorded. However, I find Silver Springs odd as well but the cd is called Reflections so I guess she is reflecting. Also, a studio version of Stand Back is missing. Live is great but it was the original that made it to #5."

[skcin]

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

When this info was first posted on the Seven Wonders board i had posted:

RockALittle250 - "Wait a minute...how do we know how reliable this person is. Remember the last time the "tracklisting" leaked out and there was no truth to it. Lets not jump the gun."

Then the guy who posted the original info responded to me:

cooprocksalittle- "I figure I am pretty reliable considering all of this information comes from where I work. HMV as a store manager. My post is a direct email from Warner Music Canada. It is also quite cautious in saying that all tracks are not confirmed but this is happening. And it makes total sense to finally have a Stevie compilation with Fleetwood Mac stuff on it and it was quite public that the Melbourne shows were recorded. However, I find Silver Springs odd as well but the cd is called Reflections so I guess she is reflecting. Also, a studio version of Stand Back is missing. Live is great but it was the original that made it to #5."

Aw, he/she is Canadian?!?! Great. I don't believe a word of it now.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by skcin

Aw, he/she is Canadian?!?! Great. I don't believe a word of it now.

watch it. you're crossing the border this weekend, aren't you? hope you're bringing a tinfoil hat and an economy-sized jug of purell.

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

No, I think that diehard fans... myself included... sometimes have expections that are just a little too high.
I visit a Madonna message board from time to time... and we all know that Madonna releases albums and videos with a pretty impressive frequency, and that her setlist changes dramatically from one tour to the next... and yet her diehard fans are very rarely ever pleased. They've built up such a massive level of expectation that everything feels like a letdown or an anti-climax.

I would much, much, MUCH rather have a brand new album from Stevie than a "best of"... but, whether we like it or not, these compilations are a contractual requirement. They're also relatively easy to put together and they sell a lot of copies... all of which creates revenue and renews interest in the artist for both the audience AND the record company.

For whatever reason, Stevie just simply isn't inspired right now to write or to go back into the studio. Hopefully that will change sometime very soon, but, in the meantime, at least we have a handful of new live tracks to look forward to, as well as a brand-new DVD and a tour.
There's also a potential full-length live album to look forward to.

You are soooooooo right. I'm just glad something is gonna be released. And yes, I'd prefer a brand new album too but this is better than nothing at all.

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I would bet money that this tracklist is bogus. There are so many things that are not quite right with it, particularly the fact that one of Stevie's biggest solo hits, "Stand Back," is represented only in its live form, which, to my ears, has not been done live properly since 1983. Also, the DVD portion appears to be just a mishmash of arbitrary stuff. I mean, "Stevie artwork?" And a video from VH1 Storytellers?

And I find the voiceover commentary stuff hilarious, especially since we all know how much Mama hates to shoot videos. And what will be her commentary for the "Stand Back" video? "Well, we first shot this in Civil War costumes and I was like 'omigawd, I look so gross,' and then I thought the song was just screaming for a conveyor belt, so that's what we did. That conveyor belt was very special to me."

My prediction is that this set will try to set itself apart as THE definitive Stevie collection by including both her solo work as well as Fleetwood Mac (not Fleetwood Mac songs she performed solo live). I'm sure the legal logistics were mindboggling, but then again it's all on the same label. Plus, it's unlikely that FM will be putting out any more best of's in the near future since they already blew their load with TVBOFM.

That's probably why she does voiceover, she doesn't need to shoot a video for that.

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

"Stand Back," is represented only in its live form, which, to my ears, has not been done live properly since 1983.

I agree. It was all downhill after SNL.

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

That's probably why she does voiceover, she doesn't need to shoot a video for that.

No, I think he means that Stevie's voiceover for each video will be nothing but her bitching about how much she hated making the video.

[Phil]

I'm a little suspicious of the proposed tracklisting as well but if it does come to fruition, it wouldn't be too bad. However, I would have preferred a more comprehensive, two cd version along the lines of the Essential series compilations that have been released by a range of artists in the last few years (Heart, Neil Diamond, Bruce Springsteen - his was a three cd set - etc). Given that this is to be essentially a hits collection, consideration should have been given to the following titles as they have all been issued as singles in one form or another (7" vinyl, cd single, promo cd single) in various parts of the world:

Crying In The Night with Buckingham Nicks
Whenever I Call You Friend with Kenny Loggins
Gold with John Stewart
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
Insider with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
Edge Of 17 (7" edit)
Leather & Lace (7" edit)
After The Glitter Fades
Stand Back (7" edit)
If Anyone Falls
Nightbird (7" edit)
Talk To Me
I Can't Wait (7" remix)
Imperial Hotel
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (7" edit)
Needles & Pins (live) with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
Silent Night (released in Germany)
Rooms On Fire (7" remix)
Long Way To Go (7" edit)
Two Kinds Of Love
Whole Lotta Trouble (7" remix)
Sometimes It's A Bitch
Love's A Hard Game To Play (7" remix)
Desiree with Rick Vito
Blue Denim (7" remix)
Maybe Love (7" remix)
Twisted (promo) with Lindsey Buckingham
Reconsider Me (promo)
If You Ever Did Believe (7"edit - promo)
Everyday (promo)
Planets Of The Universe (7" edit)
Sorcerer (7" edit - promo)
Dreams (7" edit) with Deep Dish

What I have listed above is (I think) an exhaustive account of Stevie's singles but I don't imagine for a moment that all of these would (or even should) be compiled for inclusion (none of us need to be reminded of Sometimes It's A Bitch or Love's A Hard Game To Play and Desiree could hardly be considered a worthy contender).
Of course, a smattering of newly recorded tracks would have been desirable and any live material with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra would definitely have been welcomed (Beautiful Child anyone?). I also believe that some of the fan favourites (non-singles) should be recognised (Bella Donna, The Wild Heart, Beauty & The Beast etc) but then I realise I am being unrealistic. If Silver Springs is included, hopefully it will be an unissued version with a cold ending similar to the demo ("I cast a spell on you, you won't forget me").

As for the dvd component, virtually all of the following could potentially be included if the effort was made (to my knowledge, the only songs that clips weren't made for or weren't ever performed live are Crying In The Night, Imperial Hotel, Long Way To Go and Desiree):

Whenever I Call You Friend (this was performed in 1978 with Kenny Loggins so it's possible a live clip may exist?)
Gold (perhaps unncessary as Stevie isn't featured)
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Insider
Edge Of 17
Leather & Lace (live from White Winged Dove Concert)
After The Glitter Fades (unreleased live version from White Winged Dove Concert)
Stand Back (+ unreleased Civil War version)
If Anyone Falls
Nightbird (live from Saturday Night Live)
Talk To Me
I Can't Wait (+ alternate version)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (live from Red Rocks)
Needles & Pins (was this filmed?)
Silent Night (studio recording or tv performance from 1987 Christmas Special)
Rooms On Fire (+ alternate version)
Two Kinds Of Love (live from the Mirror Tour pro-shot concert)
Whole Lotta Trouble
Sometimes It's A Bitch (+ alternate version)
Love's A Hard Game To Play (live from Arsenio Hall)
Unconditional Love (unreleased - filmed in November 1993 and probably atrocious if the stills are anything to go by but it would have featured the Abbey Road mix that was circulated in December 1993 which is, in my opinion, superior to the album version)
Blue Denim (+ live from Letterman, August 1994 would be fantastic)
Maybe Love (live from Street Angel Tour?)
Twisted (live from 1996 Tour?)
Reconsider Me (unreleased but filmed in early 1998)
If You Ever Did Believe
Everyday
Planets Of The Universe (unreleased live version from Shangri-La Tour - was filmed for 20/20 September 2001 broadcast)
Sorcerer
Dreams with Deep Dish (not crucial as it doesn't feature Stevie)

I also think the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra Concert should be released in its entirety but many will disagree with me.

I understand that we won't be getting anything like what I have listed but it's frustrating to know that there is so much recorded content in the vaults just crying to be let out! It's also puzzling that since the initial release date for this collection was to coincide with Stevie's visit to Australia in February 2006, Stevie hasn't actually produced something new for inclusion. I remember her commenting in November 2005 that there wasn't time for any new recording but more than a year has elapsed since then. Also, didn't someone recently post that Sheryl Crow had commented that Stevie was working hard in the studio on a new album? If this is true, why not issue at least one of these recordings? I guess we shall see...