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Old 01-19-2007, 11:23 AM
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This is the way I'm taking this whole situation, too. He has previously admitted that his behavior on set was inappropriate but denied using any such slurs. (Though, for the record, I think he's full of **** and he comes across to me as being an arrogant bastard, but that's besides the point.)

This time around, however, I don't think he intended any maliciousness in its usage. I mean, really, what's the difference between him saying "I never said faggot" and the various people on here who have stated that "It's wrong to say nigger"? Either way you're saying a derogatory and offensive word, but it's not actually directed at anybody.

I agree with you & Strand.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:26 AM
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I agree with you & Strand.
me too. as much as i hate that word, he wasn't using it in a hateful way in that instance ...
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:28 AM
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i remember that scene! thank you for referencing the hos of OC.
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me too. as much as i hate that word, he wasn't using it in a hateful way in that instance ...
me three. after re-reading what Strand was saying, I concur.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:42 AM
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me three. after re-reading what Strand was saying, I concur.
But isn't it hypocritical to say you didn't say something offensive by saying it - regardless of the context? That is my take on it. But I am sensitive so there's that bias in me.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:43 AM
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But isn't it hypocritical to say you didn't say something offensive by saying it - regardless of the context? That is my take on it. But I am sensitive so there's that bias in me.
no, i don't think so. to me, hate words are only offensive if directed at someone - it's not offensive in and of itself.
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:33 PM
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I don't have problems with the words themselves- I have problems with the designs behind using those words. I don't think there's a way to use "faggot" in any fashion other than a pejorative one. That word always has some kind of sting to it.

"Fag" is not that big of a deal. And "faggy" is loads of fun.

[GRACE ENTERS THE ROOM AND SEES THE SMALL STAIRCASE, LEADING ONTO THE FLOOR.]

GRACE: [WHINING] Oh, for crying out loud, this is ridiculous. I just walked up a flight of stairs. [SIGHS] What, did they put this here just so that the queens could make an entrance?

[GRACE SIGHS AND PLODS DOWN THE STAIRS TO WILL.]

WILL: No...! [QUIETLY] And don't talk like that. This organization is dedicated to breaking down those kind of stereotypes.

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JACK: [LOUDLY] Hello, girls! Dolly's back in town.

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JACK: I'm a-go working....

GRACE: Somewhere, Rip Taylor is saying, "Now, that's faggy."
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^^^^^^^

What about "Butt Pirate," "Anal Aviator," and/or "Rump Ranger?"

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But isn't it hypocritical to say you didn't say something offensive by saying it - regardless of the context? That is my take on it. But I am sensitive so there's that bias in me.
I guess that's a valid point of view. I don't see it that way. I heard people calling it the "F bomb" on the radio this morning -
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^^^^^^^

What about "Butt Pirate," "Anal Aviator," and/or "Rump Ranger?"

WHO LOVES YA BABY!!!!!!!!!!

fudgepacker anyone?
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:56 PM
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WHO LOVES YA BABY!!!!!!!!!!

HELL, yes!!!

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What about "Butt Pirate," "Anal Aviator," and/or "Rump Ranger?"
I LOVE "Butt Pirate". Anyone can call me that anytime and I'll be giddy as a little schoolgirl.
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:59 PM
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HELL, yes!!!


I LOVE "Butt Pirate". Anyone can call me that anytime and I'll be giddy as a little schoolgirl.
Of course you would.


I agree that the word faggot is usually meant to be nasty. It's somehow more biting (heehee) than saying gay or homo or even queer.

IMO anyway - and what would I know, I'm just the hag.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:00 PM
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I LOVE "Butt Pirate". Anyone can call me that anytime and I'll be giddy as a little schoolgirl.
I thought it was "Poo Pirate"?
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:07 PM
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I thought it was "Poo Pirate"?
GROSS!!!!!

I like the ass, not what comes out of it......
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GROSS!!!!!

I like the ass, not what comes out of it......
You gay's scare the hell out of me, I never know what to say around ya . So fag is ok, but not faggot and queer and homo is fine?
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You gay's scare the hell out of me, I never know what to say around ya . So fag is ok, but not faggot and queer and homo is fine?
For me, "fag" is not that big of a deal- other homosexuals may have issues with it. I've never really gotten into "queer" all that much. "Homo" doesn't bother me at all. "Faggot" is always bitter.

Same deal with women, ya know. Let's see if I can translate it into womanspeak...

"faggot" = "****"

"fag" = "broad"

"queer" = "feminist" <---- there's not a very good translation for that one

"homo" = "chick"

"cocksucker" = "slut"

Does it make more sense now? Of course, these translations are in American not Canadian, so, I'm not sure if it'll work.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:39 PM
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For me, "fag" is not that big of a deal- other homosexuals may have issues with it. I've never really gotten into "queer" all that much. "Homo" doesn't bother me at all. "Faggot" is always bitter.

Same deal with women, ya know. Let's see if I can translate it into womanspeak...

"faggot" = "****"

"fag" = "broad"

"queer" = "feminist" <---- there's not a very good translation for that one

"homo" = "chick"

"cocksucker" = "slut"

Does it make more sense now? Of course, these translations are in American not Canadian, so, I'm not sure if it'll work.
Great comparisons. But Theresa should probably get out her Canadian-American dictionary.
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