Some People Shouldn't Breed.

[Johnny Stew]

I'm starting to think that people should have to pass an IQ test and a "parenting quotient" test in order to breed. If they fail, then it's off to the doctor's office for a tubaligation or vasectomy.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ragandbone

It's disgusting that they had to live 200 yards from an Interstate highway!



She sounds neglectful, and should have had a chain on the door (to make it impossible for the preschooler to get out) but we don't know anything about her. Was she exhausted, up all night by herself with a sick 2 year old? Does she have two jobs? Is she running away from an abusive relationship, and up all night worrying over it?
She probably shouldn't have two kids, and there are a lot of people who shouldn't.
Contraception helps. How else could we help?

I was thinking this too. Yet, I got the impression/vibe that the mother was on drugs or something like that - which is just a vibe as the article metions nothing about that.

In the end and like Sara said, most parents do their best and sadly some kids just get hurt.

But, in this case, how did the kid open the door, which should have been locked? That is the big question to me.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm starting to think that people should have to pass an IQ test and a "parenting quotient" test in order to breed. If they fail, then it's off to the doctor's office for a tubaligation or vasectomy.

in my opinion...Of course it would help in this state of confusion known as Oklahoma, Since this state is constantly at the top in teen pregnancies.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I was thinking this too. Yet, I got the impression/vibe that the mother was on drugs or something like that - which is just a vibe as the article metions nothing about that.

In the end and like Sara said, most parents do their best and sadly some kids just get hurt.

But, in this case, how did the kid open the door, which should have been locked? That is the big question to me.

little kids are resourceful, trust me I have one of those flip locks waaaay up high on the doorjamb and my little monkey knows to get a chair (or he used to climb on the coat tree, another WONDERFUL pasttime ) Its amazing how quickly they can get out and OH! the stuff they share with the neighbors

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Agreed. It was probably some of the more affordable housing for the area.

Exactly. And SOMEONE's gonna live there. People with addictions usually go for the cheapest places possible.

[sara1998]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

little kids are resourceful, trust me

Yes... yes they are!

Originally Posted by irishgrl

OH! the stuff they share with the neighbors

Tell me about it...

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm starting to think that people should have to pass an IQ test and a "parenting quotient" test in order to breed. If they fail, then it's off to the doctor's office for a tubaligation or vasectomy.

I've long thought that

There's a Golden Girls where in passing Rose talks about she and her husband going to the city hall or something to get their permit to have kids....not a bad idea actually

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by ragandbone

It's disgusting that they had to live 200 yards from an Interstate highway!



She sounds neglectful, and should have had a chain on the door (to make it impossible for the preschooler to get out) but we don't know anything about her. Was she exhausted, up all night by herself with a sick 2 year old? Does she have two jobs? Is she running away from an abusive relationship, and up all night worrying over it?
She probably shouldn't have two kids, and there are a lot of people who shouldn't.
Contraception helps. How else could we help?

also, the article said she just moved, and I remember when I moved, I worked like crazy trying to get everything in place so we could function properly in as short a time as possible. Its exhausting to move, anyway, but she moved several states didnt she? possibly she was getting away from an abusive situation and had to leave quickly? there are a lot of unanswered questions here, and yes, on the surface, she looks negligent, but I agree with ragandbone, this article seems to be more sensationalist than anything else.

Thats not to say that there arent some people that kids wouldnt be better off away from. I just dont think we can assume this mother wasnt trying or didnt love her kid or ..............

plus, I think it IS a shame that the only affordable housing is usually near some sort of hazard, like railroad tracks, freeways, or the like....that smacks of a sort of socio-economical discrimination that marginalizes poor people.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Exactly. And SOMEONE's gonna live there. People with addictions usually go for the cheapest places possible.

Homie, thats not fair.........Single moms go for the cheapest too! I'd bet dollars to donuts that drug dealers/users have more $$$$ to throw around than single mothers do..............

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Homie, thats not fair.........Single moms go for the cheapest too! I'd bet dollars to donuts that drug dealers/users have more $$$$ to throw around than single mothers do..............

I NEVER said they were the ONLY ones to go for cheap housing, DID I?
But when your addiction is your #1 priority in life, you need to focus your funds on that.
As a landlord, and I've been told this by several other landlords.......You're alot better off trying to get $600 rent out of people, than $300 out of people. Because ALOT/MOST of the people(not ALL, so don't jump me) that choose the $300 place, don't have their priorities in order(and often have addictions, that are their priority). And that, has been my experience, too.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I NEVER said they were the ONLY ones to go for cheap housing, DID I?
But when your addiction is your #1 priority in life, you need to focus your funds on that.
As a landlord, and I've been told this by several other landlords.......You're alot better off trying to get $600 rent out of people, than $300 out of people. Because ALOT/MOST of the people(not ALL, so don't jump me) that choose the $300 place, don't have their priorities in order(and often have addictions, that are their priority). And that, has been my experience, too.

Well, I didnt say you did, DID I?
I was only pointing out a truth. Single moms are often lumped in with drug users/dealers by sheer virtue of their residence, which is certainly NOT an indication of anything other than they cant afford to live elsewhere. But in terms of discretionary income, I'd be willing to bet (since addictions arent cheap and need constant feeding) that drug users/dealers have more $$$ to blow than single moms do. Of course, as you know there are all sorts of real life permutations and no one fits into a simple set of lables (who said that??)
and its all cyclical anywhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Well, I didnt say you did, DID I?
I was only pointing out a truth. Single moms are often lumped in with drug users/dealers by sheer virtue of their residence, which is certainly NOT an indication of anything other than they cant afford to live elsewhere. But in terms of discretionary income, I'd be willing to bet (since addictions arent cheap and need constant feeding) that drug users/dealers have more $$$ to blow than single moms do. Of course, as you know there are all sorts of real life permutations and no one fits into a simple set of lables (who said that??)
and its all cyclical anywhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Well, I'm mainly talking about users, not dealers. Of course, some dealer with 50K in his pocket ISN'T going to choose a $300 place!!!
And I absolutely have been where you're at. When my parents got divorced(when I was nine), Mom and I went from living in an upper middle class neighborhood(brand new 5 bedroom house), to living in the cheapest places she could find, because that's all we could afford. So believe me, I've been there.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Well, I'm mainly talking about users, not dealers. Of course, some dealer with 50K in his pocket ISN'T going to choose a $300 place!!!
And I absolutely have been where you're at. When my parents got divorced(when I was nine), Mom and I went from living in an upper middle class neighborhood(brand new 5 bedroom house), to living in the cheapest places she could find, because that's all we could afford. So believe me, I've been there.

Yeah, I lived in that sort of neighborhood while I was going to Law School...I was on welfare, getting section 8 and living in a druggie haven. They left me alone tho, because I was going to Law School

anyway, thanks for the clarification

[ragandbone]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm starting to think that people should have to pass an IQ test and a "parenting quotient" test in order to breed. If they fail, then it's off to the doctor's office for a tubaligation or vasectomy.

Don't forget about the important "presidential quotient"! That's the test I am waiting for

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm starting to think that people should have to pass an IQ test and a "parenting quotient" test in order to breed. If they fail, then it's off to the doctor's office for a tubaligation or vasectomy.

Seriously, you need a license to go fishing, but anyone can create life!