White House Christmas

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

..or in the end..he is just hated..period!

I often wonder if the majority of the people in the US hate him. I know his approval rating is very low, but that does not necessarily equate to hatred. I think most people see it like this -- SH was a bad guy who needed to be taken care of. Sadly, the method used by W was and is not successful and now we are bogged down in a war we cannot win and many question whether the end (SH's hanging) justified the means (the botched reconstruction of Iraq).

As for his social policies, I think many are not too concerned about them and generally support them because they mistakenly think W lowered their taxes and is for less governmental interference in our lives.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I often wonder if the majority of the people in the US hate him. I know his approval rating is very low, but that does not necessarily equate to hatred. I think most people see it like this -- SH was a bad guy who needed to be taken care of. Sadly, the method used by W was and is not successful and now we are bogged down in a war we cannot win and many question whether the end (SH's hanging) justified the means (the botched reconstruction of Iraq).

As for his social policies, I think many are not too concerned about them and generally support them because they mistakenly think W lowered their taxes and is for less governmental interference in our lives.

You have a red state perspective..which surprises me since your gay.
My reality is BLUE!
I really do feel he will not be remembered kindly in the history books for all the shame he brought to our country.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

You have a red state perspective..which surprises me since your gay.
My reality is BLUE!

That is not what I think personally - - that is what I see around me and not just in Georgia. Interestingly, I think it stems from peoples' general feeling of wanting to believe in the good of the US and her President.

My personal thoughts are W was put into power to make a select few a ton of money and they achieved that goal. I think 9/11 was the catalyst they were searching for, though I do not think they in any way caused it as is alleged. So, while I think the general theory of ousting SH was a good one (and almost all R's and D's in DC agree with me) -- the method W used was poor and IMO was geared at making a hand selected group a ton of money as evidenced by the scene in F-911 when the corps. are meeting and discussing the pot of gold in Iraq. And, even then, someone had to rebuild Iraq and I cannot say Halliburton was not the most qualified, which in no way excuses the no bid contract, etc. Actually, my position of Iraq is exactly that of Bill Clinton.

And, I agree that history will not be kind to him, although as long as there is Fox News, he will get a pass. I think it is hysterical that the only interviews he and Cheney give are to Fox now

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

That is not what I think personally - - that is what I see around me and not just in Georgia. Interestingly, I think it stems from peoples' general feeling of wanting to believe in the good of the US and her President.

And, I agree that historyu will not be kind to him, although as long as there is Fox News, he will get a pass. I think it is hysterical that the only interviews he and Cheney give are to Fox now

....soft questions only pleeeeze..........

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

....soft questions only pleeeeze..........

There is no doubt in my mind that the WH hands then the questions. To be fair, the WH always controls the topics, but the Fox interviews are just spoon fed feeds for the canned answers.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Google it

Oh come on! She doesn't need to Google your point for you. We're getting a little slouchy in our advanced age, aren't we?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

..or in the end..he is just hated..period!

Well that too...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I often wonder if the majority of the people in the US hate him. I know his approval rating is very low, but that does not necessarily equate to hatred. I think most people see it like this -- SH was a bad guy who needed to be taken care of. Sadly, the method used by W was and is not successful and now we are bogged down in a war we cannot win and many question whether the end (SH's hanging) justified the means (the botched reconstruction of Iraq).

As for his social policies, I think many are not too concerned about them and generally support them because they mistakenly think W lowered their taxes and is for less governmental interference in our lives.

Oh brother. You're certainly shoveling it this morning, aren't you? I think most people are afraid of the consequences of openly saying they despise him, kind of like in Germany in the 30's.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Oh brother. You're certainly shoveling it this morning, aren't you? I think most people are afraid of the consequences of openly saying they despise him, kind of like in Germany in the 30's.

I am just saying what I generally hear people say. Certainly, I have heard both extremes though. I am talking about common people not news people, etc., though some of them like KO and Dobbs are unafraid.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Oh come on! She doesn't need to Google your point for you. We're getting a little slouchy in our advanced age, aren't we?

LOL - it is true.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Oh brother. You're certainly shoveling it this morning, aren't you? I think most people are afraid of the consequences of openly saying they despise him, kind of like in Germany in the 30's.

Leave It To Adolf...