Who are the most talented members of Fleetwood Mac? - Page 8

estranged4life · #**106** 08-15-2002, 02:23 PM

DownOnRodeo...lol...Brian

CarneVaca · #**107** 08-15-2002, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteWingedOne
No matter what some dudes here say, she can't play piano, and all her demos really blow until someone like Lindsey or someone MAKES them into real songs. Would she have made it on her own? I don't think so.

Ahem... I agree. Never mind the demos. Listen to that version of Rhiannon in the box set. Scary! I think the Barenaked Ladies had a good take on the box set phenomenon, but I forget the name of the song.

highpriestess53 · #**108** 08-15-2002, 03:31 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WhiteWingedOne

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Originally posted by highpriestess53
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Christine can't write like Stevie, Stevie can't play guitar like Lindsey, Lindsey can't play drums or bass like Mick and John, John can't play piano like Chrisitine etc.......so there is no ONE talent greater than the other......

You contradict yourself there. If one plays or sings better than any of the others, then that particular talent is greater than the talent of the other member(s). I need a beer now. I can see that the people who like..totally worship Stevie would applaud if she stood up and shat in the piano bench. No matter what some dudes here say, she can't play piano, and all her demos really blow until someone like Lindsey or someone MAKES them into real songs. Would she have made it on her own? I don't think so.

You have totally missed the point............

FiercestCalmSea · #**109** 08-15-2002, 04:22 PM

Ok,i don't like...totally worship Stevie,first of all..but Louise's point was pretty damn simple to understand.Each member has a unique talent which they excel at(Stevie's is writing,not the piano,though i'd like to see some people pull off anything so simple yet so astounding),and therefore they are equal.Not a difficult concept to grasp...

tommer · #**110** 08-15-2002, 04:33 PM

(yes, i'm back, and i'm pissed)

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[i]and all her demos really blow until someone like Lindsey or someone MAKES them into real songs. Would she have made it on her own? I don't think so.[/B]

dear, demos don't need to sound good, demos shows potential and that's about it.
stevie nicks may not be the most scholarly musician, so she desperetly needs a good musical producer around, true, but i think jimmy iovine, for example, did a better job for her than lindsey (god, if lindsey is indeed such a miracle worker, than why can't he create that same miracles for his own solo stuff, uh???).

anyway, (and no, this is not my two cents, that's solid truth carved in stone...), the validity of stevie nicks as a poet, an amazingly strong vocal performer and as a cultural icon is something which needs a highly ignorant thinking in order to have ANY doubt about.

David · #**111** 08-15-2002, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
the Sisters of the Moon demo with Stevie + simple piano is brilliant. Musically, in every sense, it catches a potency that is not quite there in the Tusk cut, or is somehow hammed up, as it was after all Tusk's only mega-rock outro vent for Lindsey.

I've always thought that the "Sisters" demo was Stevie's best piano playing of any of the demos. I don't know that I'd call it brilliant, but it's a good demo & the piano playing is thankfully not filled with Stevie's typical starts & stops -- she keeps this one smooth (thanks to a click track). Also, she somehow found the right inversions for the chords, which gave the arrangement an otherwordly cool atmosphere. You can hear her play the same arrangement in the 20/20 show from television.

If anyone's interested in getting the arrangement, give me a call. I've worked it out.

DownOnRodeo · #**112** 08-15-2002, 11:11 PM

Yes! David thanks for saying what I tried to

The bare piano inversions create the main disparity between the demo and the album track. It's musically a whole other sound, much stronger. Especially that haunting bridge..
Some call me sister of the moon
Some say illusions are my gaaaaaame
(piano: doo doo da-doo da-da)

Hmm I guess this isn't a Sisters of the Moon thread. Sorry

But hey I'm actually standing up for Stevie's musicality

DownOnRodeo · #**113** 08-15-2002, 11:16 PM

Sorry BBALLGYPSY17. I didn't read your post until now and it seems I basically fobbed off you! Great minds think alike!!!!

CarneVaca · #**114** 08-16-2002, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by tommer
I think jimmy iovine, for example, did a better job for her than lindsey (god, if lindsey is indeed such a miracle worker, than why can't he create that same miracles for his own solo stuff, uh???).

Tommer, I am going to respectfully disagree with that. While I understand your social icon argument, from a musical standpoint, you're off key. We can disagree over whether Jimmy Iovine did a better job than Lindsey in the studio. I happen to like Jimmy's work; he did a nice job on two of her albums. But I like Lindsey's work far better.

It seems you are implying Lindsey isn't as good a producer as some of us give him credit for because of his lack of commercial success with his solo work. Really, those are separate factors. One could in fact argue that had his production been less brilliant, or say more average and conforming to trends, he might have been more popular. Genius is often dismissed because it is misunderstood.

Vianna · #**115** 08-16-2002, 10:32 AM

I would agree that genius is often misunderstood; in fact, it usually is=:-)

Jimmy I think from what I have read (or heard on tv?)was trying to create a "different" sound for Stevie in her solo work so that it would be distinguishable from her FM stuff. I prefer the way she sounds when Lindsey produces her songs but there is some good Iovine material, too.

Question: who produced Nightbird for her? It would be Jimmy wouldn't it?

sara1998 · #**116** 08-16-2002, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
I beg to differ.
I play piano, and although I give a clear rating for piano skills to Dr Chris over Stevie any day...

....the Sisters of the Moon demo with Stevie + simple piano is brilliant. Musically, in every sense, it catches a potency that is not quite there in the Tusk cut, or is somehow hammed up, as it was after all Tusk's only mega-rock outro vent for Lindsey.

can some kind soul send me a copy of this demo????

~nightbird~ · #**117** 08-19-2002, 10:02 PM

Okay, here goes....my choices would be:

1.Peter Green

2.Lindsey Buckingham

3.Christine McVie

4.Bob Welch

5.Rick Vito

JMHO of the top 5 but all are talented! Each member over the years has contributed/continues to contribute something unique to the sound and spirit of Fleetwood Mac!

take care all,
~nightbird~