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Old 12-21-2006, 10:52 AM
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Its kinda funny isnt it? I mean, Blazing Saddles, considered by many to be the funniest movie ever made, has the Burton Gilliam line "Dock that CH**K a days pay for nappin on the job." I mean we can laugh at that but not at Rosie? Although like I said earlier I just wish shed shut her hole for other reasons.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:55 AM
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. . . But I think, given that there is no place for the Jews to call their own in the whole wide world, that this ancestral homeland of theirs is the most likely place, and since they have said they will accept (and live in peace beside) a Palestinian state, that the real blame for continued fighting lies with Israel's enemies, be they Arab, Muslim, or whoever. Of course, this is (as you say) my opinion.
But will they be willing and able to live in that harmony. I think history demonstrates they are unwilling.

On a slightly different note, I am glad the building of the walls and the no man's lands conceived in the late 80's and early 90's as solutions were scratched. Those, to me, did nothing to resolve the problems.

In the end, the people of the region clearly had the valid calim under any law I am aware of. In other words, squatters come to own the land, especially after several hundred if not thousands of years. So, I get that the Jewish race/faith deserved to be there as well, but it is the taking of the land by some third party and giving it to them and kicking out the local people that just is wrong to me. None of us would like for the American Indians to do that to us and they have far more of a claim as this was 100% their land until we got here

Note - I am speaking conceptually and not against Israel per se as I do think Israel should exist. I just think the way they went about it is BS and was done totally to serve the interest of the west so they could place the boat people no one wanted.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:57 AM
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Mary, this thing about the Jews not having a place of their own is something that I think about very much lately (for some unknown reason I am reading a lot of things on the Holocaust nowadays). However, I have to admit that I am not very familiar with the political aspects of this matter, so I don't have an actual opinion myself. I just stated the obvious, the famous cliche "there are two sides to each story".

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I like and hate Athens It is a beautiful city from an historical perspective, but the traffic is INSANE!!!!!!!

Having said that, I was there for the Olympics and that was just splendid!
Oh nice! It was wonderful during the Olympics, even I -who suffer every day from this horrible traffic- liked it! I hope you enjoyed yourself and that you come back someday!

On edit: ditto on your previous post
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:01 AM
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Damn that Rosie O'Donnell! She's tearing this board apart!




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Old 12-21-2006, 11:32 AM
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Rose O'Donnell sucksass.
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:33 AM
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Rose O'Donnell sucksass.
Amen Sistah!
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:35 AM
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But will they be willing and able to live in that harmony. I think history demonstrates they are unwilling.

On a slightly different note, I am glad the building of the walls and the no man's lands conceived in the late 80's and early 90's as solutions were scratched. Those, to me, did nothing to resolve the problems.

In the end, the people of the region clearly had the valid calim under any law I am aware of. In other words, squatters come to own the land, especially after several hundred if not thousands of years. So, I get that the Jewish race/faith deserved to be there as well, but it is the taking of the land by some third party and giving it to them and kicking out the local people that just is wrong to me. None of us would like for the American Indians to do that to us and they have far more of a claim as this was 100% their land until we got here

Note - I am speaking conceptually and not against Israel per se as I do think Israel should exist. I just think the way they went about it is BS and was done totally to serve the interest of the west so they could place the boat people no one wanted.

Jason, they have said they are willing. If they've responded militarily in the past its because they were attacked first. (even in the 6 days war, Egypt and Syria made their intentions clear by massing machines/airplanes/troops etc on the borders...Israel just beat them to the punch, and I say Good for Them). As for how Israel came into being in the first place, you have to remember that because of the Holocaust, the majority of the world felt that the Jews deserved a place of their own, and its my understanding that there was a general consensus (among the West at least) that Israel was the logical place for them to be. after all, Jerusalem was/is their capital. As for people displacing people it happens all the time, it happens even today and nobody likes it but its not like its unprecedented....

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Old 12-21-2006, 12:11 PM
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holy crap. that is some bull**** right thurr. he's going to send his friends to pick up her girlfriend? what the hell does that even mean?

i honestly don't get all the rosie hate. i freaking love her. yeah, she's a loud mouth - so effing what? she's funny and she don't take no ****. trump's disgusting; this whole episode is a publicity ploy. his lawsuit will go nowhere.

so shove that in your conshohocken.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:19 PM
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i freaking love her. yeah, she's a loud mouth - so effing what?
fyi...some people don't like/love big mouths.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:21 PM
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fyi...some people don't like/love big mouths.
i get that ... i just don't think it justifies all the hate she gets.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:25 PM
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i get that ... i just don't think it justifies all the hate she gets.
I don't watch the show...I just notice her snafu's in the news. IMO she is crass for the sake of being crass...that does not appeal to me. It's OK...people have preferences.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:29 PM
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Jason, they have said they are willing. If they've responded militarily in the past its because they were attacked first. (even in the 6 days war, Egypt and Syria made their intentions clear by massing machines/airplanes/troops etc on the borders...Israel just beat them to the punch, and I say Good for Them). As for how Israel came into being in the first place, you have to remember that because of the Holocaust, the majority of the world felt that the Jews deserved a place of their own, and its my understanding that there was a general consensus (among the West at least) that Israel was the logical place for them to be. after all, Jerusalem was/is their capital. As for people displacing people it happens all the time, it happens even today and nobody likes it but its not like its unprecedented....

The West did not want them - The US actually turned them away. So, the West thought, screw the people there, we are the West and we don't want them and this is how it's going to be. I mean why not let them go there on their own? Why make a nation and piss everyone off for decades? But, they/we did and the price is still being paid.

Again, I would not like some foreign entity telling me to vacate my property for a bynch of boat people no one wanted - would you?
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:34 PM
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I don't watch the show...I just notice her snafu's in the news. IMO she is crass for the sake of being crass...that does not appeal to me. It's OK...people have preferences.
that she may be ... but i still don't think she's said/done anything to elicit the kind of hate she does. i don't know if it's because she's loud, female, lesbian, what.

edit: and i'm not saying YOU hate her, niki, i'm saying others ... on this board and off.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:42 PM
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I don't have an opinion of Rosie one way or the other really. Don't watch the View, but I am concerned about Trump's comments. They are just hate-filled. He sounds like a 13 year old boy saying "You're ugly. You're stupid." etc. It's disgusting. He needs to grow up. I know she "started it", but be the bigger "man", dude.
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i mentioned it earlier but no one really seemed to give a ****

rosie knew she was going to be sued the moment the words left her mouth but i'll give it to her -- what she said was hysterical. i love baba wawa's response...
We cherish them both and hope the New Year brings calm and peace. ha.
That was too funny. I don't know how Donald can sue her. What she said was true. Dude, you ought to be worrying about someone stealing your wife! I don't think she's with you because of your inner beauty.
As far as Miss USA goes, what did they think would happen to a girl form a one horse town who's suddenly transplanted into the luxuries of Manhattan? She's 20 for cripe's sake. I also think she is going to be terribly stigmatized by this rehab thing. I suppose they had to disclose that if they were going to keep her on though.
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