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Old 12-01-2006, 01:26 PM
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See, now you're confusing slut with whore! It's all about the way you carry yourself. Stevie just has more class. She just does!
She does. She hasn't been a saint either but she never felt the need to share that with the world. We've never seen her get out of a car sans panties, for example. Even though she was doing a lot of things God probably didn't agree with, she never aired her dirty laundry for the sake of attention or publicity or whatever drives people like Lohan. I always found this bit that Lindsey said about Stevie interesting:

"Stevie sees herself as being defined within a certain set of boundaries, outside of which things probably don't ring true to her, or to the people who listen to what she does," Buckingham theorizes. "But at the same time, I think she's intrigued by the idea of pushing the envelope, especially on this album. She never wants to go too far with it, though. For example, I asked her to sing on the song 'Come' and she wouldn't. I think she thought it was dirty. That tells you something about someone who has been a rock icon but in some ways is still quite a conservative person. And I don't see her as someone who has lived her life very conservatively. So there's an interesting dichotomy there."

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Old 12-01-2006, 01:27 PM
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^^^

Who can say for sure - but they were biting when talking about her off set antics and the reviews for PHC were good if not great. So, maybe the proof's in the pudding

I have no dog in this fight. I just think calling LL talentless, etc., is seemingly based on her party girl personage alone because her reviews and her peers' comments indicate the contrary.

In the end, I think she could pull off the part of playing La Nicks. But, I doubt it will happen unless they throw a ton of $$ at Stevie, which they may do as actresses backed by great production, which she surely will get, tend to get Oscars for such parts - see Angela Bassett, Jessica Lang, Reese Witherspoon, and so on.
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To be fair - the press was not as venomous in the 70's as it is now. I mean the RS reporters used to travel with the bands and just did not report on certain things as part of a general understanding. Now, it is all about catching someone at their worst moment and not showing the other 23.55 hours of the day.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:48 PM
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I think Jodie Foster weighed in on the Lindsay thing too, if I'm not mistaken...

saying that she was glad the paparazzi wasn't as rabid as they are now...she was able to make the mistakes of youth in a more private manner - that hasn't been the case for Lindsay...who pretty much lives her life in the view of one camera or another.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:50 PM
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^^^ and they are always there. In fact, they get paid HUGE amounts of money, sometimes over a million dollars, for these shots. How would any of us like it if 50 photographers chased and hounded us every day of our lives and then the minute we made a mistake, it was on the front page of every paper in america - or at least online and the on the talk shows. I think any of us would be horrified and constantly having to explain ourselves for what we think are innocuous acts.

Of course, Paula and Curtis just hang it out there for everyone to see - violence et al (shades to hide the black eyes)
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:22 PM
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I think it is so funny that people cannot separate Lohan the person from Lohan the actress. Clearly, she is a good actress as judged by the public and her peers and higher (like Streep and Fonda who praised her acting ability) -- yet, her partying like any other girl that age prejudices people against her. I mean, with all due respect, and by her own admission, La Nicks likely partied WAY harder than Lohan at that age (if not older) and she slept with many a man, many of which were married Yet, La Nicks does not get the same harsh judgment, assuming that Lohan is indeed a whore, which there is no actual proof of other than the circumstantial evidence of partying too hard To be fair, Lohan the slut coke whore would appear to be type cast for the role

Wow the voice of reason!

Also, I don't agree that Stevie never aired her dirty laundry in public given all the details of her life we know about that she's given freely! Strandie is right, if the press was like it is today back in the 1970s, Stevie would have been in the gossip columns all the time and constantly photographed stumbling out of clubs with her various boyfriends (of which she's admits she's had plenty). I realise Stevie is special to many people here (she's special to me too) but to dismiss Lindsay Lohan purely on her behaviour, when Stevie has led probably an even wilder life, and say she has no talent, when clearly she has plenty, is clearly a flawed argument.
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i said in my original post in the other thread that i didn't think there was a hope in hell that stevie and/or fleetwood mac would sell the rights to lohan. now... i'm not so sure.

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This will not happen. There is no way Lohan will get this project. Esepically with all her partying lately. Acting so unprofessional. Stevie's not going to want her name connected to all that bad press and sluty behaviour. Stevie was appalled when Britney kissed Madonna, so I can only imagine how she would feel about handing over her life story to fire crotch.

I agree with Johnny Stew, they need to cast a unknown actress that looks like her. I remember watching Joaquin Phoenix in Walk the Line, the whole time I'm thinking that's Joaquin "playing" Johnny Cash.

As far as what Strandie said, I agree that LaNicks did the same kind of partying and much worst, but it wasn't caught on tape and posted all over the net for the world to see and judge, plus she would have had her panties on
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. . . As far as what Strandie said, I agree that LaNicks did the same kind of partying and much worst, but it wasn't caught on tape and posted all over the net for the world to see and judge, plus she would have had her panties on
I think someone needs to post that peeping beaver through the hose stage kick shot

Seriosuly, I think if the press had been as daring then as they are now, La Nicks would look bad. I mean think of all the shiittee Cameron Crowe saw but never told
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plus she would have had her panties on

Unless it happened to be laundry day - in which case BTFCHLD would have her panties on..er I mean washing...




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Wow the voice of reason!

Also, I don't agree that Stevie never aired her dirty laundry in public given all the details of her life we know about that she's given freely!
Not really. Most of the stuff that is considered 'out of the norm' came years after the fact and most of the time it got spilled by somebody else. The dirty laundry she airs these days is mostly stuff she thinks people can 'learn' from, like her cocaine/klonopin addiction. She said it herself, she won't write an autobiography until she's 90, because she doesn't want to hurt people. If you ask me, it has also largely to do with her not wanting her 'image' tainted. Like Lindsey said, she didn't really lead a conservative life, but is still conservative at heart. That, in my opinion, makes her a lot different from most of the other women in showbizz.

I agree that I don't think it's fair people get judged on it, but it's my right to say that I don't think Lohan is talented and she doesn't have enough of my respect that I would be willing to look past that and give her the benefit of the doubt. I fear she's just doing it for the wrong reasons.
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But, we don't know that LL has been slutty I mean she goes out all night and parties, but she is never really linked with multiple guys and there is no sex tape -- at least yet. I certainly have gone out until all hours of the morning and not gone home with anyone. Of course, when I was like 20, of course I sewed my wild oats - who didn't?

As for judging her talent, you can judge what you like, but that does not make her talented in the eyes of most.
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But, we don't know that LL has been slutty I mean she goes out all night and parties, but she is never really linked with multiple guys and there is no sex tape -- at least yet. I certainly have gone out until all hours of the morning and not gone home with anyone.
And I didn't say that. Her hanging out with the likes of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton doesn't really give her more credit though. I just don't think any of these women have any class, sorry.
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It's not so much that Lindsey Lohan is so very wrong for the part - it's just that there's probably somebody better out there. Stevie impersonator NOT included.

I think Lohan is gorgeous and a very talented actress. And since hardly anybody ever looks like the person they play in a biopic, I don't think its unimagineable for her to play young Stevie as long as they can dye her cooch. C'mon a Stevie biopic will have to have LOTS of sex scenes and nudity. But, they would need really good make-up artists to make her look like Stevie over the age of 30.

AND whoever winds up with such a part, if one should come to exist, would HAVE to lipsynch everysong like Angela Basset did. Anybody who tries to sound like Stevie just sounds like they're making fun of her. Stevie impersonators included.
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Don't be sorry, it's your opinion

I just try not to judge people on the same behaviour I did. if i knew these girls, I would tell them that too much of a good thing is never a good thing. Maybe they would listen. But, youth is too beguiling and everyone has to find out in their own way.

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Aaannd....these girls have not only youth but more money than God. I can't even imagine the damage me and my friends would have done in the party scene with money and access

Oh - and none of them seems to have grown up with any sort of structure or parental guidance...though even WITH that...the young will a party
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