McCartney divorce getting ugly

[Nico]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Linda may have pulled Paul out of his funk but I still dont know what he saw in her. I never liked her.

Well, that's you.

Paul obviously loved her tremendously. She was no doubt an amazing lady. She gave him a lot of love, support, encouragement, loyalty, a beautiful family, and helped hm stay grounded. Linda was able to stand behind Paul's star with no qualms and yet he couldn't manage without her. She was a rock. I remember when Stella McCartney said that her mother was the main source for and inspiration behind her profession, because she was the kind of lady who would wear an old flower dress and slippers with confidence. She was a minimilist who remained true to herself until the end, and I personally thought she was a wonderful photographer.

Macca himself: "Linda was the love of my life. I'll never love anyone like her." (2001, CNN Access)

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Nico

Well, that's you.

Paul obviously loved her tremendously. She was no doubt an amazing lady. She gave him a lot of love, support, encouragement, loyalty, a beautiful family, and helped hm stay grounded. Linda was able to stand behind Paul's star with no qualms and yet he couldn't manage without her. She was a rock. I remember when Stella McCartney said that her mother was the main source for and inspiration behind her profession, because she was the kind of lady who would wear an old flower dress and slippers with confidence. She was a minimilist who remained true to herself until the end, and I personally thought she was a wonderful photographer.

Macca himself: "Linda was the love of my life. I'll never love anyone like her." (2001, CNN Access)

Well, no one ever said Paul would replace her so Im not sure where your snark is coming from. I happen to remember when Paul first got involved with her, how the public saw her and how it was very VERY hard to accept her. You dont have to agree, but you sure as hell cant change history. and I was THERE. were you? I thought not.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Well, no one ever said Paul would replace her so Im not sure where your snark is coming from. I happen to remember when Paul first got involved with her, how the public saw her and how it was very VERY hard to accept her. You dont have to agree, but you sure as hell cant change history. and I was THERE. were you? I thought not.

Um, I don't understand why you're getting so defensive. Nothing in my post was meant to offend. Sorry you took it that way. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and, as I said above, you may not like Linda but Paul loved her/married her and that's really the point.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Nico

Um, I don't understand why you're getting so defensive. Nothing in my post was meant to offend. Sorry you took it that way. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and, as I said above, you may not like Linda but Paul loved her/married her and that's really the point.

ok I accept your apology. and Im not offended. as for Paul loving/marrying Linda, well, we dont really need false fences to tell us that do we? Sometimes true love really DOES conquer all doesnt it?

[Nico]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

ok I accept your apology. and Im not offended. as for Paul loving/marrying Linda, well, we dont really need false fences to tell us that do we? Sometimes true love really DOES conquer all doesnt it?

True.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Nico

I can't comment on any of these allegations, but good gawd what a thing this is going to be. Poor little child.

This is off topic but is your signature something like that "Someone left the cake out in the rain" song?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Im sure Paul's attorneys will thrash any falsehood. My concern is if its even minutely true...I have often wondered if he was depressed after Linda's death

I don't think it's even a question. From my own experience, the onset of my mother's Alzheimers was not more than several years after my father passed. She was in her mid 50's at the time. Who knows what the impact was on Paul? My first guess would be his marriage to one Heather Mills.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by Kelly

I totally agree with all your points. Paul and Linda were a beautiful couple...true soulmates. I always thought he jumped too quickly into the relationship with Heather, he just did not have enough time to grieve and mourn the loss of his true love.

On that note...I just watched the R&RHOF ceremony from 1999 where Paul got inducted by Neil Young. Now, was it just me, or did he seem totally plastered there? This was a few months after Linda's death, and to me it seemed he hadn't really dealt with that properly at all yet. Very sad to see.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

This is off topic but is your signature something like that "Someone left the cake out in the rain" song?

They're lyrics from The Time It Takes to Fall by Adam Pascal (off his "Model Prisoner" album. Highly recommended btw.) Thanks for asking, though.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Nico

They're lyrics from The Time It Takes to Fall by Adam Pascal (off his "Model Prisoner" album. Highly recommended btw.) Thanks for asking, though.

Thank you. I'll check it out on iTunes.

[PsychCat]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I'm no legal expert, but I don't think Mills has a leg to stand on....
(Somebody had to say it.)

I thought this SAME thing as I hear how ugly all this is getting.
So either great minds think alike or warped Mac-infested minds think alike.
Go figure...

[gldstwmn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...&icc=NEWS&ct=5

Heather: I've got secret tapes of violent rows with Macca

Heather Mills has taped evidence to back up claims that Sir Paul McCartney physically attacked her, say friends.

When her explosive court divorce papers accused the ex-Beatle of violently attacking her during their four year marriage she was branded a 'fantasist' and a 'liar'.

But, according to supporters of Miss Mills, she is ready - and able - to back up her claims with recorded, indisputable evidence.

'Suggestions that Heather simply made up the accusations about Paul attacking her are, understandably, incredibly upsetting for her,' said a source close to Miss Mills.

'Whatever she says or does now, Heather feels she cannot win - people are siding with Paul.

'But she is confident that she can actually prove some of these claims. Without going into specifics, she reckons to have tangible evidence showing that Paul not only verbally attacked her but was also physically aggressive.

'As well as charting much of the marriage breakdown on her digital camcorder, and having witnesses who will testify to her claims, Heather has another killer piece of evidence in the form of an audio recording.

'She is being quite cagey about it, but it seems that she may also have some kind of video recording of the pair rowing.

'It has never been Heather's intention to use the tapes, which she feels prove that Paul raised his hands to her, but if she has to, she will. It is dynamite stuff and if used, really could destroy Paul.'

The existence of the 'Macca tapes' emerged as Miss Mills visited her London lawyers Mishcon de Reya yesterday. Smartly dressed in green velvet jacket and matching beret and skirt, she left their offices saying nothing.

But the bitter war of words will only intensify with news of the potentially vital tapes.

This latest revelation comes five days after the court papers accusing McCartney of repeated violence against his 38-year-old wife were published.

It is claimed in the documents - exclusively revealed by the Daily Mail - that the former Beatle, 64, subjected Miss Mills to four violent attacks.

In one such outburst he allegedly stabbed her in the arm with a broken wine glass and in another he is accused of pushing her into the bath, causing her 'shock and distress'.

Sir Paul has already flatly denied the allegations and issued a defiant statement saying he will 'vigorously and appropriately' contest her claims all the way to court if necessary.

While publicly maintaining a dignified silence friends say he is privately 'incandescent with rage' at the allegations.

It is not known which alleged attack, or attacks, Miss Mills is thought to have documented on tape.

Such a recording is likely to be used by Miss Mills' lawyers as a key bargaining tool in the increasingly acrimonious £825 milion divorce battle.

But news of the recorded evidence follows an alleged phone bugging incident in which a private conversation between McCartney and his fashion designer daughter, Stella, was taped.

In it, the pair are understood to talk explicitly - and in derogatory terms - about Miss Mills. Over the past year Miss Mills has also been seen using a hand-held video recorder.

Whilst initially it was used to film the paparazzi, she has reportedly been using it over the past few months to film, in technicolour detail, the breakdown of her marriage.

Again, if called upon, it could be used in court to help Miss Mills gain a larger divorce settlement.

And earlier this week, former newspaper editor Piers Morgan - who introduced McCartney to his second wife - revealed the existence of a mobile phone answerphone recording in which the singer is heard 'pleading' with his wife.

The message was apparently left by McCartney following a furious row with Miss Mills which prompted the former model to flee to India.

Miss Mills's spokesman refused to deny that his client had video or audio taped evidence supporting the court paper claims.

Last night he said: 'Heather has got independent corroborating evidence for what she has claimed. 'In some cases this is in the form of witnesses but she has other corroborating evidence, but I'm not sure what it is.'

Rumours that Miss Mills hit McCartney - not the other way around - have been vehemently denied by her spokesman.

One report yesterday alleged that she hit her first husband. Her former sister in law , Diana Karmal, said she saw Miss Mills slap Alfie Karmal during a row.

Sir Paul's legal team are likely to closely study a book written by Miss Mills - Life Balance: The Essential Keys To A Lifetime Of Well Being - which may contradict some of her court claims.

In the court document she claims he refused to allow her to surface in the mornings before he was ready.

In her book Miss Mills writes: 'As a working wife and mother I have learnt that setting the alarm 30 minutes earlier each morning can make all the difference. It allows me little bit of personal space before the day begins.'

And at the time of publication - within days of the couple announcing their separation - Miss Mills writes in her book that she has 'a very loving and open relationship' with her husband.

In contrast, the leaked court papers suggest that at this time Miss Mills 'avers that the marriage [had] irretrievably broken down.'

In the legal documents Miss Mills also complains that she was expected to prepare two dinners every night, one for baby Beatrice and one for McCartney, without assistance 'despite her disability.'

But in an interview with Michael Parkinson in 2003 she praises her husband for 'bringing me breakfast in bed every morning, no matter how he feels. And I do the dinner, so we've got that agreement. It's thoughtfulness.'

[irishgrl]

interesting. again, and not to be snarky--a person just doesnt go into court with wild claims because:
1) you risk losing credibility and
2) you could be prosecuted for making false accusations.

I guess it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. It might also explain why Paul was willing to pay her to make her go away in the beginning....

[DrummerDeanna]

Nah - I STILL don't buy it --

My first thought was "what the hell is she doing taping....?" that, to me, says she had to provoke to get behaviour out of him. I'm not saying the man is angel - I'm sure there were times when he was quite unpleasant - but I maintain that the bulk of her claims are bogus.

AND I just found a wealth of articles claiming Heather was the abuser, not Paul....I'm gonna post 'em....

[DrummerDeanna]

http://www.eitb24.com/portal/eitb24/...tura&idioma=en


ACCUSATIONS DO NOT CEASE
More accusations: Mills, physically violent toward McCartney
10/22/2006

Citing an unidentified McCartney aide, The News of the World said Heather Mills McCartney smashed chairs in the couple's home and threw a bottle of ketchup at the former Beatle in what it said were her frequent rages.

Paul Mccartney and Heather Mills
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More lurid allegations about Paul McCartney's acrimonious marriage filled the British tabloids Sunday, with one paper claiming his estranged wife was physically violent toward him. Citing an unidentified McCartney aide, The News of the World said Heather Mills McCartney smashed chairs in the couple's home and threw a bottle of ketchup at the former Beatle in what it said were her frequent rages.

The Sunday Mirror said Mills McCartney may allege in their divorce suit that she believes McCartney abused his first wife Linda, despite the widespread public perception that they had a strong and loving relationship until Linda McCartney's death from cancer in 1998. The Sunday Mirror story was also based on anonymous sources.

The musician's spokesman Stuart Bell declined to comment on the allegations, as did a spokeswoman for Mishcon de Reya, the law firm representing Heather Mills McCartney. McCartney's lawyers said last week that he will “vigorously” defend himself against allegations reported last week in the Daily Mail newspaper that he physically abused Heather Mills McCartney.