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Old 10-19-2006, 10:51 AM
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I personally just like food that tastes good. And yes, a bacon cheeseburger DOES taste better than carrot sticks. It takes a major attitude adjustment to completely change the way you were raised to think about food. It's not always easy, but it's not impossible either.

As far as discussing it here on The Ledge ad nauseum, I figure if you want support, post away - but as usual be prepared for some people to disagree with you or make comments that you may not like. On the other hand, if you're sick of hearing about people struggling to lose weight, just don't read the 500 threads about it.
Your comment on carrot sticks reminds me of something Rosie O'Donnel said once. She asked her doctor about her weight problem and for suggestions. Her doctor said, "Well, when you're hungry for a snack have some carrot sticks." Rosie was like, "Oh great, she totally solved America's problem with obesity right there. Why didn't I think of that?"

Personally I think this thread is for support and if you can't be supportive then use the golden rule.
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:30 AM
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Rosie is awesome....

And that rings so true....

And no, I've not picked up that book yet - I'm only getting paid once a month now - so I'm trying to adjust to that - and have a trip coming up next weekend - so that book is on my November "to buy" list....

I'm really looking forward to reading it, anything that can help me shift my way of thinking is welcome.

And though many on here think this is bogus and stupid I'm finding a LOT of strength and attitude shift through prayer - so it's not like I'm just sitting around complaining yet doing absolutely nothing about it

In fact - I JUST got back from the gym and am doing this while I cool off....I'm all red and sweaty...very attractive
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:33 PM
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And though many on here think this is bogus and stupid I'm finding a LOT of strength and attitude shift through prayer - so it's not like I'm just sitting around complaining yet doing absolutely nothing about it
If it works for you, then knock yourself out !
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:00 PM
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I loved that article. It's pretty funny. It's harsh and impatient, but I can't disagree with any of it.

To be honest, I think that the root of anyone's "food issues" can be very different. For some, it is as easy as making a decision, and no longer being self indulgent. I know that I have put on weight in the last year or so simply because I have been lazy and self indulgent. Too busy to go to the gym. Times of being depressed. Stressed out so I decide I will go ahead and eat pizza, or go out with friends and have 4 or 5 drinks. And I like tequila, so it's 400 calories a pop. I know exactly what I am doing. Then I go home and the next day bitch at myself because I have guttage. But it's my own fault.

That is way different than people who have a serious emotional problem with food. For whatever reason, there are people who use food for comfort. Who use it as a means to treat their own depression, anger, sadness and doubts. It's something that is learned at a very early age. Hell, it might even have a chemical component. For some, it may take a good shrink to help unravel how that thought process works. What I do is the same thing, just on a smaller scale.

I have a dear friend I have known for over thirty years. She's like my little sister. She has always been heavy. Since the crib ! She acknowledges she will never be skinny. She just doesn't have the body type. But about 18 months ago, she totally hit a wall. Her bad back was being exacerbated by her weight, and by her very large breasts. The doctor prescribed steroid shots to help her deal with the pain and the fact that her entire right leg was numb from a pinched nerve. For over a year. He told her it would help to take the weight off. That it might help to avoid surgery. So, in less than a year, she lost 85 pounds. Exercise and eating differently. While working about 70 hours a week. No drugs, no stomach surgery. She had the back surgery, and is soon getting her breasts reduced. She is wearing a pants size that she hasn't fit into since she was 12.

Is her story typical ? Hardly. But I never thought she would do this. She didn't either. She was used to eating whatever, whenever. And was okay with it. Now she's a total rock star and is happier than she has ever been. I should know, I have known her since she was 3 !

Anyway, a little success story.

I will weigh in tomorrow, and get on board with all of the rest of this.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:13 PM
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^^

Great post

And I love hearing stories like your friends - people really can be inspiring.

And I think I fit somewhere into the middle of just plain stupid behaviour (I know I'm guilty of that) and actual emotional food issues. The food issues I can even trace to my childhood - so since I can trace their origin they will be easier to discuss and overcome.

I never meant to imply that I am where I am simply because of food issues - in fact I think I've been rather honest about my past bad eating habits and how they got me to where I am today - but in addition to that it turned out that I did have emotional food issues as well....

It's all a mess - but I'm sorting it out - and the end result - I will also not be "skinny" but I'll look and feel fabulous - and that's where I'm trying to get...
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:24 PM
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Great post

And I love hearing stories like your friends - people really can be inspiring.

And I think I fit somewhere into the middle of just plain stupid behaviour (I know I'm guilty of that) and actual emotional food issues. The food issues I can even trace to my childhood - so since I can trace their origin they will be easier to discuss and overcome.

I never meant to imply that I am where I am simply because of food issues - in fact I think I've been rather honest about my past bad eating habits and how they got me to where I am today - but in addition to that it turned out that I did have emotional food issues as well....

It's all a mess - but I'm sorting it out - and the end result - I will also not be "skinny" but I'll look and feel fabulous - and that's where I'm trying to get...

It isn't about skinny, I think it's about feeling good and being satisfied. I never got the feeling you were all about food issues. Hey, we all sometimes just wanna eat stuff ! Damn if I don't sometimes buy a Bag of Doritos, some Stouffers french bread pizza, and a six pack just cause I wanna gorge myself. It tastes friggin great.

I know where I wanna be. And it isn't miles away. My goal isn't unrealistic. I weighed 150 when I was 18. And had a 28 inch waist. But was a skinny weakling. Now I am 40 and have muscles. I am never gonna go back in time. Don't want to. Just wanna get rid of the little gut. I have about 10-15 pounds to drop. And I will be totally fine. And will feel good. It won't be that hard. It's just gonna take about 6 weeks of concentration.

I can do it. So can you.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:27 PM
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^ I didn't notice a gut on you when we met.

I did notice a lot of muscle definition in your back & shoulders when we hugged. *swoon* Damn you gay boys!
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:27 PM
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It isn't about skinny, I think it's about feeling good and being satisfied. I never got the feeling you were all about food issues. Hey, we all sometimes just wanna eat stuff ! Damn if I don't sometimes buy a Bag of Doritos, some Stouffers french bread pizza, and a six pack just cause I wanna gorge myself. It tastes friggin great.

I know where I wanna be. And it isn't miles away. My goal isn't unrealistic. I weighed 150 when I was 18. And had a 28 inch waist. But was a skinny weakling. Now I am 40 and have muscles. I am never gonna go back in time. Don't want to. Just wanna get rid of the little gut. I have about 10-15 pounds to drop. And I will be totally fine. And will feel good. It won't be that hard. It's just gonna take about 6 weeks of concentration.

I can do it. So can you.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:29 PM
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It isn't about skinny, I think it's about feeling good and being satisfied. I never got the feeling you were all about food issues. Hey, we all sometimes just wanna eat stuff ! Damn if I don't sometimes buy a Bag of Doritos, some Stouffers french bread pizza, and a six pack just cause I wanna gorge myself. It tastes friggin great.

I know where I wanna be. And it isn't miles away. My goal isn't unrealistic. I weighed 150 when I was 18. And had a 28 inch waist. But was a skinny weakling. Now I am 40 and have muscles. I am never gonna go back in time. Don't want to. Just wanna get rid of the little gut. I have about 10-15 pounds to drop. And I will be totally fine. And will feel good. It won't be that hard. It's just gonna take about 6 weeks of concentration.

I can do it. So can you.
My problem lately is that I want results NOW!!! And that's completely unrealistic and dooms me to negative thinking like, "oh this isn't working..." "I'm working so hard...but nothing..." But it takes time - that's been my mantra the last two weeks - and it's working....slowly...painfully slowly but surely.

And yes, I'm going to still eat a burger or chips or candy once in a while - once in a while does not a diet undo...but I was previously eating that stuff ALL THE TIME. So moderation...and I am seeing results, and I'm losing at least and not gaining
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:33 PM
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^ I didn't notice a gut on you when we met.
I wasn't naked, and it was successful creative costuming.

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I did notice a lot of muscle definition in your back & shoulders when we hugged. *swoon* Damn you gay boys!
Very crafty work there, P.

More to come, I hope.

Thank God you didn't rub my stomach to see if it was flat.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:34 PM
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I wasn't naked, and it was successful creative costuming.



Very crafty work there, P.

More to come, I hope.

Thank God you didn't rub my stomach to see if it was flat.
That would have been a sight. All the gays in that joint would have lined up for their turn, I'm sure.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:37 PM
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Thank God you didn't rub my stomach to see if it was flat.
don't you hate that! when someone pops your stomach after the punchline of a joke or just in jest.

meanwhile, I die. I go away and try to imitate the slap to see what they must have felt and if I should be embarassed.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:43 PM
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My problem lately is that I want results NOW!!! And that's completely unrealistic and dooms me to negative thinking like, "oh this isn't working..." "I'm working so hard...but nothing..." But it takes time - that's been my mantra the last two weeks - and it's working....slowly...painfully slowly but surely.
I hate that ! It has derailed me before. I will work out and eat right for 2 weeks and lose like, 1 pound. Then get disgusted and think "F this ! I am going to go out to dinner and go drink with my buddies like it's 1999 !"

It's a slow haul. It's actually more dramatic when you have 30 or more pounds to lose. When it is less, the stuff just doesn't melt off as fast. I almost feel like the last five is just glued there like cancer or concrete patch.

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That's how I feel. For example, I love Mexican food. There is NO WAY I am going to give up chips and hot bean dip. I just won't eat them often. And I love my maragritas. Paula and Strand can testify. Life is too short to live like you are in food prison. But there is a way to enjoy food and not be a friggin' Conshohocken Dugong Wamu about it.

Plus at this point I feel kind of like when Stevie says she is almost sixty, still pretty cute, and she rocks. I'm 40, I still have good hair, and I can get laid when I want. Oh yeah, and I rock too!
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don't you hate that! when someone pops your stomach after the punchline of a joke or just in jest.

meanwhile, I die. I go away and try to imitate the slap to see what they must have felt and if I should be embarassed.
I have totally done that. Actually, I think there is a connection between getting patted on the stomach and my right arm. It wants to pop forward like a jack in the box and crack them in the jaw when they pat me. And it is always these bonehead straight guys at work who do it ! Granted they couldn't care less if I have ridges or a pooch, but it still bugs the hell outta me.
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I have totally done that. Actually, I think there is a connection between getting patted on the stomach and my right arm. It wants to pop forward like a jack in the box and crack them in the jaw when they pat me. And it is always these bonehead straight guys at work who do it ! Granted they couldn't care less if I have ridges or a pooch, but it still bugs the hell outta me.
i'm that way when people touch my face or neck! i don't like it. i get violent.
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