Weight loss thread - Page 2

hayley · #16 10-16-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

I'm doing the Master Cleanser for the fast, and got an herbal colon cleansing kit, with the psyllium seed husks, and the bentonite clay, and various other herbs. All the usual suspects.

Here's just one site talking about the Master Cleanser, there are several. I had a friend who did it, too, and she was amazed and renewed. She did 30 days!

http://www.therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm

I did 22 days a couple of years ago. At the beginning I had to plug my nose to drink that ****, and by the end I was craving it.

amber · #17 10-16-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hayley

I did 22 days a couple of years ago. At the beginning I had to plug my nose to drink that ****, and by the end I was craving it.

You mean the Master Cleanse drink?

How did you feel? 22 days is a long time. I like the taste pretty well. I've found it hard to fast previously, though, I'm really going to bear down this time. They say after the second day you feel better.

hayley · #18 10-16-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

You mean the Master Cleanse drink?

How did you feel? 22 days is a long time. I like the taste pretty well.

Yup, the good old Master Cleanser. I got teased so mercilessly for doing it, mainly because it sounds so gross/ridiculous. The worst part for me at the beginning was the headaches- I think they might have been caffeine headaches, but I'm not sure. I had a constant headache and was lightheaded for the first five days or so, but after that was fine.

I felt great after it. I started it after I quit drinking due to liver problems. (Go hep go!) My body was in a really terrible place and I felt really great after the M.C.

sparky · #19 10-16-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

They say after the second day you feel better.

After two days, I'm not even hungry. It's hard to do it while working, though.

JazmenFlowers · #20 10-16-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

After two days, I'm not even hungry. It's hard to do it while working, though.

but doesn't this go against the whole "it will slow your metabolism and make you store fat" idea? not accusing, just asking.

amber · #21 10-16-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hayley

Yup, the good old Master Cleanser. I got teased so mercilessly for doing it, mainly because it sounds so gross/ridiculous. The worst part for me at the beginning was the headaches- I think they might have been caffeine headaches, but I'm not sure. I had a constant headache and was lightheaded for the first five days or so, but after that was fine.

I felt great after it. I started it after I quit drinking due to liver problems. (Go hep go!) My body was in a really terrible place and I felt really great after the M.C.

Oh, that's great! Glad to know another person got good results. Wow, five days, you must have been pretty toxic.

JK, of course.
I hope I don't get the headache. So far, so good. I only drink about a half cup of coffee a day, though.

sparky · #22 10-16-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

but doesn't this go against the whole "it will slow your metabolism and make you store fat" idea? not accusing, just asking.

I don't know how it works in terms of storing fat or changing matabolism. Just saying that as the fast goes on, my hunger goes away.

amber · #23 10-16-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

but doesn't this go against the whole "it will slow your metabolism and make you store fat" idea? not accusing, just asking.

I thought so too, but if you research fasting, you'll see the benefits are numerous and important. Fasting helps you eat more healthfully after you finish fasting, too. besides, most people eat way, way too much, it never gives your body a chance to rest and replenish its cells. To heal, itself, if you will, and flush toxins.

JazmenFlowers · #24 10-16-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

I don't know how it works in terms of storing fat or changing matabolism. Just saying that as the fast goes on, my hunger goes away.

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Originally Posted by amber

I thought so too, but if you research fasting, you'll see the benefits are numerous and important. Fasting helps you eat more healthfully after you finish fasting, too. besides, most people eat way, way too much, it never gives your body a chance to rest and replenish its cells. To heal, itself, if you will, and flush toxins.

oh, I see.

amber · #25 10-16-2006, 05:34 PM

Hayley - did you do the sea salt flush as well? I know you don't have to do that with it, but it helps cleanse the colon. Oh, also, Hayley - did you ease back into a regular but more healthful diet in the manner that they recommend? You know, slowly?

BTFLCHLD · #26 10-16-2006, 05:34 PM

the "hot bowel movements" is enough to suggest run don't walk.

amber · #27 10-16-2006, 05:39 PM

Here's a snippet from one site:

"Detoxifying literally means removing poisons from your body. Once these poisons are gone, you will feel energetic, vital, happy and healthy. It is the poisons that make us feel tired, mentally confused, irritable, unhappy, depressed and ill. Consequently you should look forward to detoxification.

Unfortunately, when the toxins are mobilized, they will bring about those unpleasant feelings and tempt you to quit the cleanse before you are through. So, you need to understand the symptoms of detoxification and ensure that you drink your laxative tea and salt water to stimulate elimination of those toxins.

My experience with the cleanse and with various people doing it has taught me that whatever symptom I experienced one day, it would be gone the next morning with my bowel movements. It is nevertheless helpful to know when you are detoxifying because it helps you to get through that symptom to know it will be gone tomorrow.

I have grouped the detox symptoms I and others have had into five groups:

Cravings — I have only known one or two people to be hungry on this cleanse. Drinking more lemonade or water handles that. I have, however, observed that people on the cleanse crave what they are detoxifying. Proof that this is true is that the cravings usually go away the next morning with bowel movements. You can crave anything when detoxifying, but most likely you will experience cravings for the most toxic foods, such as pizza, hamburgers, barbeque ribs, etc.
Tiredness — When your body fights toxins, whether from detoxifying or an infection, it diverts energy into healing and away from the energy you use to work and play. On my first 20 day cleanse, I was not tired except on the fifteenth day. The next morning, I experienced heat in my bowel movements, an indication that acidic toxins were being eliminated. I also lost all sense of tiredness.
Irritability — This includes the desire to "just chew something solid."
Physical aches, pains, nausea, vomiting, etc. — These are the most severe reactions and only occur where a person is severely toxic, only a small percentage of people experience these. Fortunately, these have gone away after only a day or two in every case I have heard about.
Hot bowel movements — Your body wastes are acidic and when you eliminate the most toxic ones, they actually feel anywhere from warm to burning. This experience is very infrequent, but worth mentioning because hot bowel movements after a day of heavy detox symptoms will confirm that you just eliminated significant toxins.

A Special Note on Headaches
In talking to people doing the cleanse, I've learned that people with caffeine addiction (coffee, soft drinks, etc.) may experience headaches for the first 2 to 4 days.

Final Note
I hope you will have the same wonderful increase in mental clarity, health, energy and positive mental attitude that I and others have found.

If you have been a meat eater and/or milk products consumer, shift to cooked vegetable soup on the afternoon of the second day and a salad for dinner. Keep the lemonade drink as your breakfast drink after that. Of course, you would do better with the least amount of meat and no milk products as they are very productive of mucus and hinder digestion and absorption of nutrients."

DrummerDeanna · #28 10-16-2006, 05:41 PM

I'm intruiged by this fast/clense concept...I'll read more about it this evening after work....

I've actually never heard of that...

HomerMcvie · #29 10-16-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Yeah, welcome to set point. I have to at least do something though or I hate the way I feel and look. My body likes to be at this weight too, well 10 lbs heavier actually. But I don't! Maybe I can teach it. I seriously don't have the energy for 6 days at the gym and god bless those of you who do!

Oh, I don't particularly LIKE it, but, when I weigh(no pun intended) all the pros and cons, IMO, it's just not worth ALL that work.
I do TONS of yardwork and the like, and go out of my way to walk to do things, so it's not like I'm sedentary.
Hell, NO ONE can keep up with me walking. People hate going shopping with me, because I won't walk their granny speed!

michelle2677 · #30 10-16-2006, 05:49 PM

About a year ago I worked out about 3 x per week (sometimes more) and started weight watchers and I lost nothing. So I say "Screw it". My clothes didn't fit any different and I felt no different. I've basically decided that I'm never going to be miss america material so I don't really care. I am looking into getting a stationary bike, though, just to keep somewhat active. I tried the belly dancing routine and stopped after the second attempt. I had my little "belly dancing" outfit and everything. Oh well.

Good luck to those that are doing it though!!