Republican Foley Resigns House Seat Over Allegations Of Sexual Harrassment - Page 6

strandinthewind · #76 10-04-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

This is true! And often what causes the hault of psychosexual maturity is having been molested.

In some cases. But, in the Folely instance, there does not appear to be any molestation. These teens appear to have consented to the emails, etc.

SuzeQuze · #77 10-04-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

In some cases. But, in the Folely instance, there does not appear to be any molestation. These teens appear to have consented to the emails, etc.

I only read one of the transcripts. What I read was a teen going along with what Foley was saying, answering his questions. I didn't see any indication that the teen was sexually interested in the man. But the teen didn't say he was uncomfortable with the conversation or stop it. However there is the unbalance of power. I had a boss once that used to do this to girls in my department. They all went along with what he said out of fear and none of them reported him, not a single one.

I didn't say Foley molested anybody. But he says he was molested as a teen which can hault psychosexual development hance his penchant for teens.

strandinthewind · #78 10-04-2006, 09:55 AM

He is full of shiitte IMO and is using that as an excuse.

As for the teens - they seemed interested to me -- in fact onbe beat off online with him. That sounds interested to me

Again, these are not 10 year olds.

SuzeQuze · #79 10-04-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

He is full of shiitte IMO and is using that as an excuse.

As for the teens - they seemed interested to me -- in fact onbe beat off online with him. That sounds interested to me

Again, these are not 10 year olds.

I wonder. There seems to be a form for these people to get out of sh*t.

* Admit it and say you're sorry.
* Say you're sorry for the hurt you've caused to your family.
* Go to rehab.

Politicians know that voters are more willing to forgive when they apologize. So as far as sincerity goes, I just don't see it. It's all PR and pre-formatted at that.

strandinthewind · #80 10-04-2006, 12:20 PM

Well, rock stars use it as well - "Oh - don't blame me for the failure of SA and for being a total C U Next Tuesday, it was the Klonopin"

sparky · #81 10-04-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, rock stars use it as well - "Oh - don't blame me for the failure of SA and for being a total C U Next Tuesday, it was the Klonopin"

"Don't Blame it on Me. Blame it on my Wild Addiction."

strandinthewind · #82 10-04-2006, 01:04 PM

Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean look at Mel Gibson - if you have to

mikeschmike · #83 10-04-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I mean look at Mel Gibson - if you have to

Please don't make me.

From CNN's homepage:

Kirk Fordham, chief of staff to Rep. Tom Reynolds, resigns amid fallout from Rep. Mark Foley's sex messages to a teenage page, CNN confirms.

What in hell is going on here?

sparky · #84 10-04-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean look at Mel Gibson - if you have to

The only view I can imagine I want to see of him is his bare ass in the first Lethal Weapon. That, I can deal with.

strandinthewind · #85 10-04-2006, 01:30 PM

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The only view I can imagine I want to see of him is his bare ass in the first Lethal Weapon. That, I can deal with.

He was soooo nice looking and I LOVED Braveheart!!!!

Also - Mike - what's is going on here is a melt down and a panic - couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people

Nixxxed · #86 10-04-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike

Please don't make me.

From CNN's homepage:

Kirk Fordham, chief of staff to Rep. Tom Reynolds, resigns amid fallout from Rep. Mark Foley's sex messages to a teenage page, CNN confirms.

What in hell is going on here?

Scapegoat: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...p_staffer.html

Top GOP Staffer Forced Out for Role in Page Scandal
October 04, 2006 1:44 PM

Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz Report:
Jake Tapper contributed to this report.

The chief of staff for Republican Congressman Tom Reynolds, Kirk Fordham, resigned after questions were raised about his role in the handling of the congressional page scandal, according to Republican sources on Capitol Hill.

Those sources said Fordham, a former chief of staff for Congressman Mark Foley, had urged Republican leaders last spring not to raise questionable Foley e-mails with the full Congressional Page Board, made up of two Republicans and a Democrat.

"He begged them not to tell the page board," said one of the Republican sources.

They said Fordham had repeatedly warned Hastert's staff about Foley's "problem" with pages, but little was done.

The complaint about Foley was brought to the chairman of the page board, Congressman John Shimkus (R-IL), last spring, and he then consulted with the Clerk of the House of Representatives, Jeff Trandahl.

At Fordham's urging, according to the sources, the matter was not given to the full board, and instead Congressman Foley was privately approached and told to stop all contact with the page he had been e-mailing.

"This is something we should have been aware of, and we weren't, and I'm very unhappy about that," said Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), who also serves on the page board.

The Democrat on the page board, Congressman Dale Kildee (D-MI), said it was "unprecedented" to have handled the matter without informing the board members.

Fordham was also instrumental in orchestrating Foley's abrupt resignation last week hours after ABC News confronted the congressman with sexually explicit instant messages allegedly sent to pages.

Fordham offered ABC News a deal if it would not publish the content of the instant messages.

"He said we could have the exclusive on the resignation if we did not run direct quotes from the instant messages," said Maddy Sauer, the ABC News producer who dealt with Fordham.

ABC News refused to make any such deal.

Capitol Hill sources say Fordham's resignation was demanded by Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, whose job is on the line because of his handling of the page scandal.

Repeated phone calls to Fordham for comment have not been returned.

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But now Fordham has released his own statement:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/..._out_staf.html

mikeschmike · #87 10-04-2006, 02:01 PM

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Fordham offered ABC News a deal if it would not publish the content of the instant messages.

"He said we could have the exclusive on the resignation if we did not run direct quotes from the instant messages," said Maddy Sauer, the ABC News producer who dealt with Fordham.

ABC News refused to make any such deal.

This actually surprises me. It's almost like the media and the government are two seperate entities. Almost.

Nixxxed · #88 10-04-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike

This actually surprises me. It's almost like the media and the government are two seperate entities. Almost.

EDIT: My bad - the quoted section below is still in the ABC story - I obviously need to retake my Mouse Skills 101 class...

They're one entity.

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People familiar with Fordham's side of the story, however, said Fordham was being used as a scapegoat by Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert.

They said Fordham had repeatedly warned Hastert's staff about Foley's "problem" with pages, but little was done.

The complaint about Foley was brought to the chairman of the page board, Congressman John Shimkus (R-IL), last spring, and he then consulted with the Clerk of the House of Representatives, Jeff Trandahl.

At Fordham's urging, according to the sources, the matter was not given to the full board, and instead Congressman Foley was privately approached and told to stop all contact with the page he had been e-mailing.

SuzeQuze · #89 10-04-2006, 02:18 PM

This is a vast left-wing conspiracy.

This guy does seem like a scapegoat because Hastert knew and didn't tell the board either. And so many others knew as well. Others may fall in this guy's wake.

SuzeQuze · #90 10-04-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed

They're one entity.

I just noticed (after I cut-n-pasted) that this section has been removed from the ABC story, which is why people are claiming Hastert is using Fordham as a scapegoat. Gee, I wonder why it was removed?????

No way, the part that said Hastert knew? Of course! Send to crooks and liars or something. I hate revisionism.