Stevie albums...

[amber]

Originally Posted by markolas

Bella Donna is the only one I'd put on a list of my favorite albums in general. I never really liked The Wild Heart much; RAL is better, but I can't say it's as good as Bella Donna, because her lyrics had stopped making sense around the time of...well...The Wild Heart. TOSOTM is too draggy, she sounds tired. Street Angel has a couple of shining moments (the title song and the Dylan cover, namely), but is largely RAL's ugly stepchild. TISL is almost on the level of Bella Donna, but there are some clunkers there that drag it down a notch.

I didn't used to like WH either, but why don't you care for it, If I may ask? Why do you think RAL is better than WH? Why is BD the best?
I used to not like WH much because of the...uh...I dunno, just didn't like a lot of the notes, they seemed major-ey.
And why do you think TISL is on the level of BD?

[foxyluva]

"Trouble in Shangri-La" for me as well. Although, I consider "TISL" "Wild Heart" and "Bella Donna" all 5 star albums...

I may be one of the few here who actually really doesn't care for 'Rock A Little'

[amber]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

"Trouble in Shangri-La" for me as well. Although, I consider "TISL" "Wild Heart" and "Bella Donna" all 5 star albums...

I may be one of the few here who actually really doesn't care for 'Rock A Little'

Good god, there's a massive infiltration of people who think TISL is the most awesome! It defies logic.

"new, crappy school"

[markolas]

Originally Posted by amber

I didn't used to like WH either, but why don't you care for it, If I may ask?

Well, I like it just a little better than I used to, but still not very much. I don't care for the keyboard-y sound, and...I dunno...it just seems a little uneven. It's hard to explain. I do like Sable on Blond now, though. And I Will Run to You.

Why do you think RAL is better than WH?

It just seems more fun. It's funkier. Even though her voice is shaky on several songs.

Why is BD the best?

I'm partial to country-rock, and BD sort of has that sound to it. It's also very cohesive. I can listen to it from start to finish and not feel the overpowering urge to skip songs.

And why do you think TISL is on the level of BD?

It's the one that I can come closest to letting it play all the way through. I have to skip Too Far from Texas and That Made Me Stronger (and maybe Love Changes), so that's what keeps me from giving it the full four stars, or whatever.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by amber

Good god, there's a massive infiltration of people who think TISL is the most awesome! It defies logic.

That's ok -- I can never figure out why so many people choose 'Bella Donna.'

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by amber

Good god, there's a massive infiltration of people who think TISL is the most awesome! It defies logic.

"new, crappy school"

Amber, we disagree on everything about Stevie, and again, this is no exception...

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I can never figure out why so many people choose 'Bella Donna.'

Why wouldn't people. "Bella Donna" is brilliant...

[amber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

That's ok -- I can never figure out why so many people choose 'Bella Donna.'

*gasps loudly*


Oh, maybe for some kind of Edge of Seventeen, or SDHMA reasons. Myself, I do it for some Kind of Woman reasons, and for Bella Donna and After the Glitter Fades reasons. And mostly, mostleh, for the totally underrated How Still My Love reasons. HSML - a subtle tour de force.

Hello. EDGE. Edge? Heard of it? Edge?

I think it is great, although the voice of it is too pure to make me rank it number one. But the mere fact of Edge and SDMHA makes the voice not as pure.
While I'm arguing with you, here, I also have to admit it is nice to meet an old school fan who doesn't put BD first. However....

[amber]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

Amber, we disagree on everything about Stevie, and again, this is no exception...

Do we? I hadn't noticed. But we both love her. I'm totally a Stand Back, Edge kind of chick. Apparently you are a Sorcerer, TISL kind of chick?
A lot of the younger fans I have noticed to really like TISL. I can't get over the loss of range and the loss of spontenaeity, though I do love about 5 songs on that album.

Originally Posted by foxyluva

Why wouldn't people. "Bella Donna" is brilliant...

Indeedly Doodly.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

"Bella Donna" is brilliant...

So many people sure seem to think so, but to me it just sounds like an early '70s Eagles album. It's ultra-mellow and it's the least "Stevie" of all of her solo albums.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

So many people sure seem to think so, but to me it just sounds like an early '70s Eagles album. It's ultra-mellow and it's the least "Stevie" of all of her solo albums.

See, I see your point with that. Yet, I can't ignore the Edge, or the SDMHA, or the KOW, or even the BD. Let alone the SOTN (still of the night!)

It's like, in theory I agree, but in practice, that album has a lot of kick ass songs. I'm so torn. lol.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

So many people sure seem to think so, but to me it just sounds like an early '70s Eagles album. It's ultra-mellow and it's the least "Stevie" of all of her solo albums.

I fail to see how any of this is bad. Though I think it's been established that we have very different tastes, for the most part.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by amber

Oh, maybe for some kind of Edge of Seventeen, or SDHMA reasons. Myself, I do it for some Kind of Woman reasons, and for Bella Donna and After the Glitter Fades reasons. And mostly, mostleh, for the totally underrated How Still My Love reasons. HSML - a subtle tour de force.

Hello. EDGE. Edge? Heard of it? Edge?

I think it is great, although the voice of it is too pure to make me rank it number one. But the mere fact of Edge and SDMHA makes the voice not as pure.
While I'm arguing with you, here, I also have to admit it is nice to meet an old school fan who doesn't put BD first. However....

Don't get me wrong -- I love all the songs on 'Bella Donna,' but, as a whole, it's just too mellow and MOR to really get me excited.

'Street Angel' is probably her second most mellow album, but the latter-day grit in her voice makes for a more compelling listen, IMO.

Like I said, I prefer the albums that better display Stevie's more eccentric qualities.

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by amber

Do we? I hadn't noticed. But we both love her.

You must have noticed. We have disagreed on everything from "Blue Lamp" to "Rose Garden" to "Street Angel" (The Album) and TISL. We do both love her though - just for very different reasons

Originally Posted by amber

I'm totally a Stand Back, Edge kind of chick. Apparently you are a Sorcerer, TISL kind of chick?

Im totally all about Sorcerer and TISL Although I couldn't live without the classics...

Originally Posted by amber

A lot of the younger fans I have noticed to really like TISL. I can't get over the loss of range and the loss of spontenaeity, though I do love about 5 songs on that album.

I am a younger fan, which probably explains why I love TISL so much - more my generation. "Say You Will" is also my favourite Mac album...

Originally Posted by amber

Indeedly Doodly.

Well, that one thing we agree on - "Bella Donna" is exceptional

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

So many people sure seem to think so, but to me it just sounds like an early '70s Eagles album. It's ultra-mellow and it's the least "Stevie" of all of her solo albums.

Really!? Interesting thought. I have to say I disagree for the most part. Sure it is a very natural sounding album, very folkish and country in parts - but it is very Stevie. I think "Street Angel" is the least "Stevie" of all her solo albums - no magic...

[amber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Don't get me wrong -- I love all the songs on 'Bella Donna,' but, as a whole, it's just too mellow and MOR to really get me excited.

'Street Angel' is probably her second most mellow album, but the latter-day grit in her voice makes for a more compelling listen, IMO.

Like I said, I prefer the albums that better display Stevie's more eccentric qualities.

Wow. We actually agree on that. Which is why I love WH and RAL so much. But I also think BD is great, and the songs I mentioned, IMO, also display her eccentric qualities. As a whole album? Not as much, I agree. I guess that is why I said what I said before:RAL is eccentric, but without quite as much range as WH. WH is the perfect meeting b/t range and eccentricity. RAL is a bizarre masterpiece, to me. I think I'm the "only one" (ha, right!) who really loves RAL, the song, too. So strange, so moody. At first I didn't like it, thought it was too slow. But then, I saw the light. It is deep and strange and dark and lovely. it's structure, etc. is inimitable. But gosh, it sure is hard to choose. It's like everything she did was so strange and cool. I just love her, her weirdness and her vocal talent.

[Johnny Stew]

Admittedly, I'm probably so tough on 'Bella Donna' because of all the people who say "'Bella Donna' is the best album she's ever recorded.'

It's sort of like Lindsey's 'Law & Order'... fantastic songs, but it falls short of showing you what the artist REALLY has to offer.