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See, that's part of my point, I'm sick of girls (not you Suze, you were joking) saying they "hate" someone because they are skinny. It's totally ridiculous. It's not the skinny person's fault that you aren't skinny. And some girls are actually very resentful and judgmental of someone who is thin, or in shape, etc. It's like some weird reverse discrimination. And some people actually are naturally thin.
I'm also sick of people blaming the media for their low self esteem about their weight, but, that's a complex issue. I'm not saying it isn't valid, I'm saying I'm sick of it. Quit watching the damn TV, and go out and exercise! That way you kill two birds with one stone! Quitcher whining! Also, it is unhealthy to be more than a few lbs. overweight, and people should feel bad about that - Though not necessarily about the way they look. *hops off soapbox*
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You can be mad that someone else can eat a lot and be thin while you can't but you can't be mad at them. It doesn't make sense. Although I sometimes am mad at my roommate. Seriously, you should see the size of those bowls of ice cream! ![]() I think that the media influence on self-esteem is very real. But you're right, people are ultimately responsible for their own self-image. Kids aren't though, they are heavily influenced by the images they see. Therefore these images have actually shaped who we are in some ways. We are a product of all of our experiences, including what we have seen and heard in the media. You can't help but internalize those images in ways you aren't even fully aware of. Media people should be more responsible but I don't think there should be regulations or anything. Oh hell no. Just have a conscience people, I mean "heroine chic"? That was just ass.
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Also, the media to a large degree shows us what we want to see. Yes, heroine chic was ass. But talking about conscience, how people can, in good conscience, allow their young children to watch TV in great volumes - like most do - is beyond my comprehension.
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I guess what I meant to type was that she seemed to be inspired by a previous red-carpet look of Charlize's.
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O, preach it!
When I was in my teens, I was repeatedly accused of being anorexic because of my weight, or lack thereof. I would seriously gorge myself and not gain a thing, not until college. Even up until then though, older girls, or my mother's friends would say I was lucky to have such a problem, but I really didn't see it that way. Anyway, as I got older, I have put on a healthy amount of what, because, well, that's just how the human body works. Anyway, my point is, the vast majority of women in Hollywood, who are sticks, never admit to crash dieting, or an unhealthy lifestyle...when, although it may be possible for a few, women in their 30's just do not weigh 100 ponds without effort. They just don't. And visible bones aren't attractive. On anyone. Blablabla. And for the record, I don't have a hate-on for the skinnies...I'm at a slim but healthy weight myself. But I don't like the bone-racks that claim ignorance on how they got that way. ![]()
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I agree, it would be great if it was widely known some of the more unhealthy practices of hollywood slimmers. But would that make people do the same thing, or the opposite?
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Man you sure do love your Pompeo, don't you Amber? What gives? Is it love of her character on the show? I've never seen it, so I don't know whether she's loveable or not.
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I find Pompeo's "Meredith" to be one of the least likeable characters on the show. She gets on my damn nerves.
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You seem oddly resistant to this story, though you are a skinny bean yourself. ![]()
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But it seems even worse when it's the other way. Like when my grandfather told me how much weight I'd gained. Or my grandmother asked me if I drink beer cuz that has a lot of calories. Etc, etc. If you've been overweight you know how difficult it is. I think it's harder for them than for the skinnies. So if they don't have much sympathy for them I can see why. Calista Flockhart used to claim she was naturally thin too but she finally admitted to an eating disorder. They always deny them. I'm not saying EP has one because I have known naturally skinny people who eat healthy. But you just never know.
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How can we be ultimately responsible for our self image when that very self image is forumulated while we are kids (and watching TV or listening to radio or what have you)?? You're apparently saying that at some magical/mythical point, our self image should improve merely by virtue of aging? I cant think of anyone who was able to do that to any degree And speaking for myself, I was ALWAYS skinny, a size 3 or 5 (and even THEN didnt have a good self image) until my mid to late 30's and then I got heavy relatively quickly. Talk about a real head trip!! Im trying to make peace with who I am at this moment and not stress about trying to recapture my glory days. Truth be told, when I WAS skinny, I had no end of men troubles because they wouldnt leave me alone and I couldnt differentiate between a decent man and a not so decent man, and because of my low self esteem anyway (thanks to my dad and my grandparents) I needed a man's attention for validation. Any man, even a bad one. Now that I am heavier and mostly left alone (except for the boy toys!!), Im HAPPY for the first freaking time in my life! So, these issues are pretty complex and I think the dynamics are more important than a cursory statement about "get out and exercise" or "change your diet". Im a firm believer in baby steps. Do what you can manage and take it in increments. |
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I'm also happier single than I've ever been with a man, except for the first couple of months with my first BF and the first couple with Sean. Until they really revealed themselves. My self-image is also better now that I'm heavier but that is a result of maturity.
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