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Old 08-24-2006, 10:00 AM
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If the first two Supernova songs are the best they have written for their new album, I'm not sure anyone would want to front this band.
Nor would anyone in their right mind want to buy an album or see a show. What crap!

So, I am finding it very interesting to watch sexism play out in such a major way on this show. First, we have to wait several weeks before the band says they can finally imagine a woman fronting a band. Then we have the tired go-go girls gyrating last week.

This week, we have a ten minute focus on Dilana the bitch. Let's remember that last year, J.D. was very tough on his housemates, yet was lauded by Dave as someone who is showing he really wants to win the competition. Earlier this season, Ryan said horrible things to Dana (which is why I will never like him), yet he received nothing close to a slap on the wrist.

Fast forward. Dilana makes some honest comments about what she thinks of her competitors and is slammed. Granted, she made a big mistake doing that to the media, but this is nothing more than the typical case of tough men are seen as aggressive and tough women are bitches.
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:08 AM
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I got this email from Shelly King - another local songstress:

"My friend and fellow songstress Ginger Leigh was in L.A. for the show taping on Sunday. Later, she coincidentally ran into Gilby Clarke, guitarist for Guns & Roses and now guitarist for Supernova and a judge on Rockstar. She asked him what was up with Patrice and he told her that he LOVED Patrice and thought she was the one for the band but that he couldn't save her if she lands in the bottom three again. She's already been in the B3 three times. So vote, people, vote! Patrice is a Rockstar! She's definitely the best songwriter of the bunch and Supernova is needs a good songwriter."

BTW, "Beautiful Thing" is the first single off Patrice's new album, coming out in October. Smart girl, playing that in front of a worldwide audience. I think she knew she was going, so why try to impress Supernova anymore? It's all about HER now!
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:18 AM
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Magni followed up a few episodes later with "Creep" by Radiohead that also had me choking back tears.
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It was Lukas that sang Creep, but whatevs.
Actually, they both did the song.
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:50 AM
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men are seen as aggressive and tough women are bitches.
brings to mind one of my favorite quotes:

"you say bitch like it's a bad thing"
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:53 AM
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Nor would anyone in their right mind want to buy an album or see a show. What crap!

So, I am finding it very interesting to watch sexism play out in such a major way on this show. First, we have to wait several weeks before the band says they can finally imagine a woman fronting a band. Then we have the tired go-go girls gyrating last week.

This week, we have a ten minute focus on Dilana the bitch. Let's remember that last year, J.D. was very tough on his housemates, yet was lauded by Dave as someone who is showing he really wants to win the competition. Earlier this season, Ryan said horrible things to Dana (which is why I will never like him), yet he received nothing close to a slap on the wrist.

Fast forward. Dilana makes some honest comments about what she thinks of her competitors and is slammed. Granted, she made a big mistake doing that to the media, but this is nothing more than the typical case of tough men are seen as aggressive and tough women are bitches.

Agreed. If anyone on the show has the right to be a bit arrogant, or to give advice to the younger or less experienced people, she does. She's obviously one of the front runners, and I think they want to bring her down a notch or two. It's as if they wanted to purposely show her in a negative light to diminish her advantage. I don't think she should have said those things to the media, but on the other hand she's nothing if not honest, and I'm sure she said some positive things about people that were conveniently edited out. Lukas rarely has a nice thing to say about anyone, barely ackowledges others' good performances & looks like he's pouting all the time - nobody's mentioned that. Bottom line is ratings - conflict is good on TV.


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Grrr! Crying Over Reality TV

Wednesday, August 23, 2006

By Mike Straka


I'm embarrassed to say that I've never have I cried so much during any TV series before.....
Um, you should be. There have been great performances, but they don't come close to making me tear up.

BTW - I agree, the Supernova tunes are nothing special (although that damned "leave the lights on" one is stuck in my head as of late.) I'm a tad embarrassed that Newsted is up there, he looks out of place to me. Sellout.

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Old 08-24-2006, 11:06 AM
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brings to mind one of my favorite quotes:

"you say bitch like it's a bad thing"
It was definitely seen as a bad thing last night. Dilana got creamed. I personally had no problem with anything she said or did.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:08 AM
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Bottom line is ratings - conflict is good on TV.
True, now that they don't have Zayra, they need new strategies to keep ratings up.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:31 AM
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Well, while dramatic, I think the statement in 20 words or less that she "didn't mean what I said but stand by what I said" says a lot.

I happen to agree, no matter how she may be portrayed/edited for ratings sake, that she is a bitch. She may feel she is great at what she does, and she may well be a good singer and performer, but to trash someone else's performance and/or singing ability is ridic. It is for this alone that I hope she doesn't win. She said herself she doesn't want to "share the stage with anyone" and I believe that would include Supernova. I love that Ryan ripped her, and based on her reaction and those of others, I do not believe this is an "act" for ratings. I love that she stewed in her own chit.

I was surprised Magni was in the bottom three, especially since Storm was "saved." However, I did not care for his performance of Fire and IMO is kidding himself if he truly thinks he will receive the encore.

I became fond of Patrice, and wish her well.
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Old 08-24-2006, 12:25 PM
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If the first two Supernova songs are the best they have written for their new album, I'm not sure anyone would want to front this band.
anything by Supernova, nor do I think I would want to.

I do find it humorous that both Gilby & Jason are continually referred to as members of their former bands, instead of as ex-members.

I do agree with a fellow Sludger on metalsludge's world famous newsboard: "If Gilby & Jason only drew crowds of 100-150 for each's perspective solo shows in bars/clubs, then Supernova is using Tommy Lee as the drawing power for an arena tour, because some contest winner wont have any drawing power in a band of big egos....Maybe that is why Jason suddenly has the look on his face of "why did I leave Metallica?"."
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Old 08-24-2006, 12:53 PM
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Anybody gonna see them on Tour?
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I love that Ryan ripped her
Except he has no credibility to rip her given that he has engaged in the exact same behavior?
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Anybody gonna see them on Tour?


Tickets are already on sale! We don't even know who the singer is.
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Old 08-24-2006, 12:57 PM
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Tickets are already on sale! We don't even know who the singer is.
It's Lindsey...
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Old 08-24-2006, 12:59 PM
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Well, while dramatic, I think the statement in 20 words or less that she "didn't mean what I said but stand by what I said" says a lot.

I happen to agree, no matter how she may be portrayed/edited for ratings sake, that she is a bitch. She may feel she is great at what she does, and she may well be a good singer and performer, but to trash someone else's performance and/or singing ability is ridic. It is for this alone that I hope she doesn't win. She said herself she doesn't want to "share the stage with anyone" and I believe that would include Supernova. I love that Ryan ripped her, and based on her reaction and those of others, I do not believe this is an "act" for ratings. I love that she stewed in her own chit.

I was surprised Magni was in the bottom three, especially since Storm was "saved." However, I did not care for his performance of Fire and IMO is kidding himself if he truly thinks he will receive the encore.

I became fond of Patrice, and wish her well.
But she didn't trash anyone's performance or singing ability. She questioned if a couple of people really wanted to front the band, and told Ryan that the band helped him out more than he knows. Of course, Navarro was spot on by saying the band helps everyone, including her. I'm not saying she's not a bitch, and she probably should have just kept her mouth shut. BUT it's not as if she's running off her mouth saying "oh, they suck, they can't sing, I have more talent...."

Like Ryan (our Ryan) said, when a guy talks ****, he's got balls & ambition. When a chick does it, she's an evil bitch. Lukas can roll his eyes during other performances, but she can't answer a question? OK.

I DO think this will affect her popularity as far as voting goes, at least next week. Unless she does the absolute best performance she's ever done, I really think she might be bottom 3.
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