Bob Dylan Says Modern Music Is Worthless

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

Lucky you!! I adore her. Although I have to admit, I am a little disapointed with her last album, which I don't like at all (give or take a few gems). She is one crazy lady though

And on another note - completely underrated

Which album, Wilderness? I didn't like that one as much either, but I also didn't listen to it as much as I should have - maybe I'll give it another go.

Did you know she released another one this week (at least in the state) - Live! The Bad Kitty Board Mix? And I agree - crazy and underrated

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

In your opinion. In mine, they have not had a decent song since "One Tree Hill" off the "Joshua Tree" album

Of course, in my opinion. I can't speak for anyone else. Although 22 grammy's pretty much speaks for itself.

Now the Beatles, there's an overrated band IMO. Another Beatles hater here

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Which album, Wilderness? I didn't like that one as much either, but I also didn't listen to it as much as I should have - maybe I'll give it another go.

Did you know she released another one this week (at least in the state) - Live! The Bad Kitty Board Mix? And I agree - crazy and underrated

Yes, "Wilderness" - I didn't like the production on the album

Yes, I knew she released a live album - I can't wait to get it

Originally Posted by bikerchic

Of course, in my opinion. I can't speak for anyone else. Although 22 grammy's pretty much speaks for itself.

Who cares about Grammys?!! The Grammys are just a popularity contest anyway. Britany Spears, Beyonce and Justin Timberlake have won more Grammys than Fleetwood Mac, Neil Young, Bob Dylan and Tom Petty combined - does that make them better artists than the ones that have won none or only one or two - no.

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

Who cares about Grammys?!! The Grammys are just a popularity contest anyway.

It sure meant something when Fleetwood Mac won one though

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

It sure meant something when Fleetwood Mac won one though

Well, Fleetwood Mac were at there most popular when they won the Grammy for best album - I have always thought that although 'Rumours' is a great album, they should have gotten one for their best album "Tusk", which did deserve a Grammy. But it didn't because it did not have the same sales as "Rumours". And you can bet if that "Tusk" and "Rumours" swapped places in terms of popularity and sales, that "Tusk" would have won a Grammy and "Rumours" would have missed out...

My point is that Grammy awards don't go to who deserve them most - it goes to whoever is most popular that year or an artist who died. Whatever made more of a media impact....

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

My point is that Grammy awards don't go to who deserve them most - it goes to whoever is most popular that year or an artist who died. Whatever made more of a media impact....

the Grummies when Jethro Tull won best metal over ME-Tallica...Nothing against Jethro Tull, but metal they ain't.

Sure Nuff, the following year the Grummie official assclowns awarded ME-tallica the award for best metal...Hmmm, I wonder why

[Red]

Personally I think that these days you really have to look for good music...its just not that readily available. Good music is not on tv and it sure as hell can't be found on popular radio anymore like it was, oh, say 20 years ago. Right Bob?

It doesn't mean its not there and it doean't mean that there aren't albums that are beautifully and artfully recorded. They exist, but man, you gotta hunt for it.

[face of glass]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Back to the point, music has not gone downhill, just Mr Dylan's hearing it seems. There's nothing wrong with the sound quality to my ears. Maybe he needs to invest in a better sound system.

I think he also refers to how everything on mainstream radio is nowadays overcompressed to sound the same and you can't really tell the songs from each other especially if you're not tuned into what's hip. People have always removed flaws from the musicians' performances especially if they're releasing that particular performance (in the good old days they spliced the tape, these days they can do whatever they want), but there's no need to compress everything together into the same perfect homogenous piece of plastic or to use your autotuners to fix a slightly flawed vocal. Except when you want everything to sound the same and that nothing from your regularly scheduled programming has the chance of slightly irritating you. But then all this compressing and fixing takes a large part of humanity away from music; the flaws.

As for "modern music"; nothing prevents you from enjoying all the albums from the past because there surely is a lot to explore. You can still listen to something from 1967 or whatever and be just as stunned by it today as people were back then. And each year always adds something interesting to this musical library. Why draw the line between 'the new' and 'the old'? Because it's another human thing to do.

[Für Elise]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

In your opinion. In mine, they have not had a decent song since "One Tree Hill" off the "Joshua Tree" album

Achtung Baby is amazing.

[Mari]

Originally Posted by Red

Personally I think that these days you really have to look for good music...its just not that readily available. Good music is not on tv and it sure as hell can't be found on popular radio anymore like it was, oh, say 20 years ago. Right Bob?

It doesn't mean its not there and it doean't mean that there aren't albums that are beautifully and artfully recorded. They exist, but man, you gotta hunt for it.

That's very true! I didn't listen to radio for years because I got fed up with most of the mainstream stuff (not all of it ). And partly because of that I didn't listen to music as much as I used to, before.
Since I found some cool alternative internet radiostations, I've been discovering a lot more new artists and bands that I like... they're certainly out there. And let's not forget myspace, a great way to check out different songs from artists I'm curious about. So.. to find out about new artists, I guess it helps if you know the new 'technology' like internetradio etc.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by amber

Did you read in the several posts before this, and Bob's words himself in the original post, that he was actually talking not about the artists, but about the sound quality of music on CD's? Just wondering.

Nope. In all honesty, I did not. Sometimes I just never bother to, because when I read something that interests me enough to comment, I always get disappointed when I read through other posts and realize that maybe the whole thing was meant in an entirely different context, etc. So then I lose the chance to say what I want. So I just figure "ignore it, maybe no one will notice..." But yeah, serves me right. I still meant half of what I said anyway.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by face of glass

I think he also refers to how everything on mainstream radio is nowadays overcompressed to sound the same and you can't really tell the songs from each other especially if you're not tuned into what's hip. People have always removed flaws from the musicians' performances especially if they're releasing that particular performance (in the good old days they spliced the tape, these days they can do whatever they want), but there's no need to compress everything together into the same perfect homogenous piece of plastic or to use your autotuners to fix a slightly flawed vocal. Except when you want everything to sound the same and that nothing from your regularly scheduled programming has the chance of slightly irritating you. But then all this compressing and fixing takes a large part of humanity away from music; the flaws.

...

I agree and they did way to much of this to Bo Bice's album. He sounded like some vanilla singer, the soul of his voice was stripped away.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

I don't think Bob is a great singer at all - that is not where his strengths lie. His lyrics are amazing, and have clearly influenced damn near every decent musician within that last 40 years. His songs like "Positively Fourth Street" and "Just Like A Woman" are incredible, so if you don't like his voice, check out other artists who sing Bob's songs - like The Pretenders version of "Forever Young" - incredible

I can't stand his voice. I can't get past it to listen to his music.